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Last post: kievsky, 18 Jun 2024 13:26
Yes was mine. Still adding when I can st these prices
I assume that’s Kievsky s 111 trade , well done you must be close to a notifiable interest by now !
Started: wellsite, 16 Jun 2024 12:56
Last post: wellsite, 16 Jun 2024 12:56
Nice promo article
http://www.kmkj.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=44038
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Started: tootight, 13 Jun 2024 21:20
Last post: sphinx100, 14 Jun 2024 15:25
Sorry thought it was an existing line of products , my mistake .
ON did not add FF to an existing product.
I think adding to existing products as ON have done makes lots of sense, BH have lifespace which are doing very well , I’m sure adding ff to some of there Pro/ pre biotics. Would be a great fit imo
We know that B-H have applied for "some related product registration applications" along with the health function claim. What we don't know is how many product registrations or what type of products.
Are they planning a big launch single product or could they be planning on adding FF to some of their already big selling products?
My guess would be a mixture of both but although I can see large orders for FF coming our way I don't see B-H firing all their bullets in one go. Or in other words I don't expect them to launch all the products they will have Blue Cap for at the same time.
BWTFDIK :)
Potentially,assumption, is unfortunately all we can do at the present time, more meat on the bones will come we just have to wait, hopefully it will be worth it.
Last post: Dr_Horrible, 13 Jun 2024 16:12
I hope that we get multiple orders, each being multiple of current FF sales £. I try not to think that positive for fear of being deeply disappointed.
Sounds like to me , “Some orders for ff”. More than 1 ,maybe up to 4/5 , and each one would be “At a multiple of current sales value “ adding up to a significant multiple of current sales value “ that’s my interpretation anyway .
What does everyone think about the potential order size for BH 'this would result in some significant orders for Fruitflow, potentially at a multiple of current total sales values". My assumption is that each order they make would be potentially multiple of current FF sales, rather than multiple small orders that add up to a multiple of total FF sales. So if BH ordered £2m worth, PXS would need to order perhaps £1m worth from the manufacturer to satisfy the order. They would then want to order for non BH stock at the same time so they make the order as large as possible and bring down the cost of production.
I expect the initial order to be fairly large, say £2m or £3m, but not much clarity around when they will repeat the order. We have no idea, but it's good fun to guess.
Think your finding issues where there aren’t any , this has been stated many many times “. The Company has previously stated that if BYHEALTH is successful in obtaining a new permitted health function claim in China for functional health foods, such as Fruitflow, that can demonstrate an anti-platelet effect, it is expected that this would result in some significant orders for Fruitflow, potentially at a multiple of current total sales values.“. So whatever BH pay for ff from us it will result in multiples of current sales values , which by my reckoning should be £ millions .
That's good then Now it all depends on the purchase price BH negotiate with PXS (not that we will ever know)
Started: colbaltblue, 11 Jun 2024 12:24
Last post: gixer, 11 Jun 2024 20:20
I would assume that new stock is sitting waiting to be sent out to customers at the end of this month.
Gix
Why send back or post ? We might get a snippet in the response that possibly gives us a clue as to what is going on.
W?
Why?
Its best before the end of July.
CB
send it back or 1* on truustpilot
W£
My monthly order delivered today. I note a July 24 expiry date. Getting a bit tight isn't it?
No IF relies on us not to ask awkward questions like 'What do you do all day?'; 'How many beans did you count yesterday?'.
IF can’t comment on BH business, can only note announcements.
He can tell us about all the other stuff going on - I don’t think FF only relies on Chinese body builders for future sales
W 🏋️
"Why hasn't there been any update on the blue cap progress"
I would imagine that we won't hear anything significant on Blue Cap progress until the health function claim is accepted by SAMR. IMO both will be accepted ( health function claim and Blue Cap product registration applications) at the same time and then the information will be released.
Again IMO, IF wont know or cant say when that will be.
Because the only thing that matters is the approval and it is not approved yet. Releasing formal comms takes time, money and would add no value.
The only thing they could say is "just a quick update, we submitted the application over 9 months ago and it's not been rejected, so that's positive ey! "
Why hasn't there been any update on the blue cap progress
Last post: wellsite, 6 Jun 2024 20:40
Thankyou Givxer
Just went into H&B to check out the sell by date. Not on the shelves (yet?) but was impressed about how much shelf space the brand had in the shop
W?
Rpg they know how much they’ve taken in and how much they’ve spent ,it’s not difficult is it !
The bod follow the mushroom form of operating, unless they know sweet FA.
I’m sure everything is going great with sales and approvals from SAMR , but really keeping LTH s in the dark is not great management is it , I’ve never seen a company keep so much under wraps ,it’s almost like they want you to get fed up with waiting, not even a trading update which I’m sure we are due . Cost must of risen a lot because from the last update we are over £1m t/o ! If we were even in an operating profit we should be informed, rant over
Nice to see.
Capital Markets Day
PARIS, JUNE 3RD, 2024
Page 17
Key products
Ingredients, such as Fruitflow®,
OatWell®, resVida®, Reducose®,
ALL-Q™, deliver optimal balance of
microflora in the gastro-intestinal
tract enabling consumers to
perform at their peak, as well as
helping cope with health concerns
such as cardiovascular disease
and weight management
https://www.dsm-firmenich.com/content/dam/dsm-firmenich/corporate/documents/results-center/capital-markets-day-2024/capital-markets-day-2024-hnc-web-version.pdf
If any offer is made then I hope its when we do have a pot to p*** in.
In other word, once revenue is coming our way and we are well in profit.
I doubt B-H would want the whole company anyway. IMO they would only be after the Fruitflow IP.
BWTFDIK :)
Naz
if you were a multibillion company would you rely on a company without a pot to p*** in to supply you with millions of pounds of a project that you are stacking your reputation on ?
W?
Any opinion if we get a blue cap approval ,do you think we will get a takover bid
Started: wellsite, 1 Jun 2024 10:20
Last post: gixer, 1 Jun 2024 17:50
Unless it runs out beforehand I would guess that this stock will be sold right up to the end of June.
My best before was July24 on an order received this week.
Sorry I meant email order number , I’ll let you know bbd when it arrives , Monday I would think .
Sphinxy
what’s the best by date on yer latest order ‘?
w-I- thick-we-shall-be-sold-to-a--bh-dsm-parner-entity-in-very-near-future-as-IF-clearly-doing-jack-to-promote-FF-$
Just received my order of ff+ from provexis , the order numbers are up again, I wonder if the H&B former customers have transferred to the Fruitflow + site !
Lol Slam. No it wasn't me :)
I would have asked for a time frame.
I must confess though, I did have a link to the/a website that you could submit questions to B-H but unfortunately they made it for registered users only and I couldn't register :(
When I first saw that question, my first thought was that Gixer had Sent it in!!!
It's quite common for By-Health, and no doubt other Chinese companies, to publicly respond to investors questions.
Those directors were nothing to do with By health ,just to be clear
I know they are clamping down on corruption in business, I believe a few directors have already been gaoled .so it’s in their interest to be open and above board .imo
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Last post: sphinx100, 29 May 2024 14:19
Don’t think this is anything to do with ff, but would be good if it was , as it’s quiet . Tomson Beijian (300146.SZ): The two main products, protein powder and Jianli, will be iteratively upgraded this year
Gelonghui Finance
·
11:08
Byhealth Co.,Ltd
-0.53%
Gelonghui, May 29, 丨 Tomson Beijian (300146.SZ) was surveyed by a specific target on May 29, 2024. Regarding “whether existing products have been upgraded and iterated,” the company replied that this year, the company will iteratively upgrade the two main products, protein powder and Jianli Duo. Among them, Jianliguo's upgraded products have already been launched, and shipments to some dealers have already begun..
Started: Dr_Horrible, 26 May 2024 07:30
Last post: Dr_Horrible, 26 May 2024 19:43
I don’t think it’s a mega-earner given the amount per serving. However, I also doubt that FF is charged a standard amount per KG. It will likely be a unique deal per customer depending on their requirements and projected volumes. PXS or DSM will give a price based on the deal. I would like to think that PXS/DSM make good out the deal.
1000 tubs per Kg of FF
How many tubs will you need to stock the UK and Europe?
So it has a gram of ff in each pot (50mg x20) so I have no idea what that means to Pxs ,I’m sure Gix will know !
I believe it never had FF in it
And the ‘Rise’ anti hangover one no longer has FF. think it used to have.
Started: wellsite, 24 May 2024 18:47
Last post: DP64, 26 May 2024 00:44
Great advertisement video
DrH
just looked back, agreed that’s what the RNS suggests
- DSM’s cut is reduced now though
W?
Yes, as they are existing customers. Quite confident that it would not be by product.
If a new product, but existing customer, does dsm still get a royalty ?
Wonder if they will put out a new video for "Booster Up"
Last post: Dr_Horrible, 24 May 2024 13:55
Hopefully ON will create a shot drink version of it too, like they have with Gold Standard Pre-Workout. Would also be nice if they launch it in the USA, or a similar product with FF.
My local Tesco has a large dedicated Optimum Nutrition section with branding. Hoping to see Pump in there soon.
As ON have launched this new product they must have ordered a sizeable amount of ff up front ! If it’s selling well surely they (ON) would not want to run out as Pxs seems to have done , well they seem unable to keep stocks at Amazon and HB supplied.
Some interesting facts. This. New product could be a massive enhancement to Fruitflow sales
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/farming-food/2023/03/01/glanbia-reports-record-56bn-revenue-on-back-of-strong-us-sales/#:~:text=Glanbia%20said%20it%20generated%20revenues,%E2%82%AC4.2%20billion%20in%202021.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/pre-workout-supplements-market-share-growth-2023-https://straitsresearch.com/report/pre-workout-supplements-market
It’s crunch time now, after 1June they have to send out stock with a BBD later Jul24. Wonder if they’ll take the opportunity to change other things - e.g. why buy O3 from DSM, surely can get it chaeper elsewhere, or bring out plus nitrates (did I dream that was once being mooted)
W£
Last post: Nazir1234, 23 May 2024 10:20
One night mare share 14 years of despair
Started: gixer, 2 May 2024 07:48
Last post: alfista, 22 May 2024 15:21
Wish I could agree with you Kievs, but the soon to expire use by date suggests not.
As for suppliers being out of stock those restrictions are often caused by buying inefficiencies, or budget restrictions applied short sightedly in my experience. If it pishes folks towards buying direct from fruitflowplus then the extra margin is valuable.
The China decision making process grinds on, with ByHealth still keeping the PR going with various snippets (copyright gixer :-)
Yes agree. But you can also see this as the fruitflow is selling so fast PXS cant keep up with demand
A cunning plan to have two suppliers out of stock, certainly enhances the bod's 'enviable ' rep.
FF omega 3 "out of stock in H/B"amazon"but purchased from Pxs website 😢
Wellsite, MM are part of a larger group of companies so it might surprise you.
I am, as always, forever hopeful :)
Started: gixer, 21 May 2024 20:59
Last post: wellsite, 22 May 2024 14:05
We never found out if BH applied for bluecap blood pressure health claim or just went for the new platelet ckassification.
wellie
Just to note. The actual study that this article relates to was funded by By-Health
"The effect of water-soluble tomato concentrate on elevated serum cholesterol levels in the middle-aged and elderly Chinese"
"WSTC may not affect platelet function in individuals with elevated cholesterol but significantly decreases blood pressure and enhances cardiovascular risk profiles. These findings advocate for WSTC as a viable non-pharmacological option to improve cardiovascular health in hypercholesterolemic individuals, warranting further exploration"
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2024.1410420/abstract
Started: colbaltblue, 21 May 2024 17:37
Last post: Dr_Horrible, 21 May 2024 18:01
We’re all still here, a bit like Jack in Titanic, desperately clinging to a piece of wreckage whilst everyone slowly starts to disappear.
We’re waiting on BlueHat approval in China, DSM Gut Health progress and new product launches to drive us to significant growth.
Check back at the end of December for an update. We hope to have very positive news by then.
I thought I'd look in to see what's new but I see it's the same old nothing with the same old guys trying to polish a drut! Whatever happened to the Chinese Blue Hat fiasco. I note Mr Personality's still in charge 🫣
Started: sphinx100, 16 May 2024 11:43
Last post: pumpky, 16 May 2024 12:09
Not cheaper if taking 2/4 a day 😆
Cheaper from here:than from PXS
Ok thought it might have been posted before , interesting that they speak about ff as their own product ! I suppose under the licensing they can do that .
I think you missed it as I posted this one at the same time ;)
https://www.sunday.de/en/cardio-flow-capsules.html
Is this new or did I just miss gixer ‘s post . https://www.sunday.de/en/fruitflow-capsules.html#laboratorytests
Started: Willysang, 14 May 2024 20:27
Last post: sphinx100, 15 May 2024 18:16
Must be a great time to launch the product now surely .
And the Best Wellness Drink award goes to……. Sirco
https://youtu.be/maZOb8UWrgQ?si=4MHhKRogU5RNrnf2
Would like to hope that both the new health function claim and product registrations are approved very soon.
In reality, we don't know when this will happen.
Any guesses? Sometime this year?
Started: DP64, 9 May 2024 23:17
Last post: BoringBernie, 10 May 2024 09:02
The 5m trade looks like a sell DP. Which worked out well for Kievsky because I suspect he took advantage by buying just under 900k shares ?
BB
Looks like something +ve is brewing up with this type of big trade
And then a 5 million from yesterday pops up again.
???????
As I said, It looks like it might have been cancelled.
https://postimg.cc/7CghqC29
Someone with fat fingers perhaps????
Who is transferring 5m share now?
Started: sphinx100, 8 May 2024 17:53
Last post: gixer, 8 May 2024 18:04
Looks like it was canceled.
Looks like a sell or transfer, too much for it to be an isa , or one-off our big holders transferring to another !!
Started: gixer, 6 May 2024 19:31
Last post: Dr_Horrible, 7 May 2024 18:51
The existing one, along with loads of other ON products are in Tesco, so it’s coming to a store near you!!!
It’s not showing on the USA site at the moment, but the article does suggest it will be.
It all depends where it goes on sale. We have GNC onboard, but their products are just EU. We need to keep check on it to see what territories it goes on sale.
I see they own Slimfast among other well known brands !