The next focusIR Investor Webinar takes places on 14th May with guest speakers from Blue Whale Growth Fund, Taseko Mines, Kavango Resources and CQS Natural Resources fund. Please register here.
London South East prides itself on its community spirit, and in order to keep the chat section problem free, we ask all members to follow these simple rules. In these rules, we refer to ourselves as "we", "us", "our". The user of the website is referred to as "you" and "your".
By posting on our share chat boards you are agreeing to the following:
The IP address of all posts is recorded to aid in enforcing these conditions. As a user you agree to any information you have entered being stored in a database. You agree that we have the right to remove, edit, move or close any topic or board at any time should we see fit. You agree that we have the right to remove any post without notice. You agree that we have the right to suspend your account without notice.
Please note some users may not behave properly and may post content that is misleading, untrue or offensive.
It is not possible for us to fully monitor all content all of the time but where we have actually received notice of any content that is potentially misleading, untrue, offensive, unlawful, infringes third party rights or is potentially in breach of these terms and conditions, then we will review such content, decide whether to remove it from this website and act accordingly.
Premium Members are members that have a premium subscription with London South East. You can subscribe here.
London South East does not endorse such members, and posts should not be construed as advice and represent the opinions of the authors, not those of London South East Ltd, or its affiliates.
I’ll be declining the offer for my 7 and 10 year olds (if we get get any offer!!) Complete waste of time.
Yep my son's school are on site testing prior to them going back on Monday but you have to give consent and its not compulsory. Also confirmed today the kids will be doing the tests themselves.......
The saliva test has to be the way forward. Even if it is slightly less accurate it would be easier to deploy and ensure correct application by the general public, so would hopefully deliver more positives... the lfts just have too many false negatives due to incorrect use.
There was an outbreak at a factory I work with where they have been testing all the contractors coming onto site with lfts. They tested two of the guys who tested positive with it and the lft gave them the all clear. I think the lft’s are dangerous. They’re impossible to do properly on yourself and a bad result potentially spreads it further. They put everyone at higher risk but the company and the government are just ticking a health and safety box. Annoys the hell out of me. There needs to be better guidance otherwise it just becomes a total waste of money and time.
All a very wishy washy solution to something that is straight forward. On the bright side we have seen Blue for the first two days in March. We have good broker reports that do not include any of the new contracts we are expecting. I find it very strange that the French bourse trades 70 per cent of the shares yet we do not do much there. I am not sure of the financial implication but it surely makes sense to move entirely to the UK or have a dual listing with America where we are looking to expand aggressively. Apart from a lack of PR and poorly worded updates I think the bod have done fantastically well. I believe the first six months turnover will be higher than the last six months of last year. GLA
My box of Innova lft arrived today. Wouldn't have bothered ordering them if I knew it was them, thought it might have been surescreen. Will probably go straight to landfill given a 50p coin is just as accurate, can't imagine who would want to stockpile them.
Just checked. Yes there will be home testing for Secondary pupils. But it will not be compulsory.
?
?
Sigh.
Signing out now.
Have a good evening all decent holders-especially those on a loss at the moment.
@crl123,
A bit like homework.
As if any real assessment of a pupil can be based around that.
Purely one of effort IMO.
The Govt use that as evidence to prove that transmission between pupils is low rather than the fact that the LFT's are inaccurate and don't pick up asymptomatic cases because of low viral load.
In addition, they then also use it to denegrate PCR's for detecting far more than should be the case.
And that is out of about 5m tests (based on a quick calculation on the graph on page 4). So if I've got my sums right, there is only a 1.5% chance of an LFT finding a positive case. Value for money?
Wilson63, from what I can see this is only being set up strictly for the purchase of lateral flow rapid antigen test's. Companies need to have their test successfully validated before they can be added to the list of supplier's.Where the money is coming from is unknown, it could possibly be from the £22billion framework or they've been back to the money tree.
Deriter here is the article you referenced Tks.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9254489/British-scientists-develop-new-saliva-test-Covid-19.html
To be honest the following from war and peace sorry I mean the research and development Rns (astonishing length on reflection)
Successful implementation of saliva testing of AstraZeneca staff using the genesig® COVID-19 assay
In early 2020, AstraZeneca set up an internal programme of voluntary SARS-CoV-2 testing for asymptomatic employees in the UK and Sweden using Novacyt's genesig® COVID-19 test. By February 2021, approximately 70,000 SARS-CoV-2 PCR tests had been completed within AstraZeneca's internal global testing centres, of which 54,000 are based on saliva swabs. Following the introduction of saliva testing, adoption by employees increased approximately four-fold and over 90% of 1,062 employees surveyed expressed a preference for the change from the typical oropharyngeal (throat) or nasopharyngeal (nasal) swabs. The study highlights the 90% uptake of saliva testing for asymptomatic patients and the excellent detection rates of 0.33 copies of whole viral genome RNA/µL, sensitivity of =95% and 100% specificity.9 These result shows how PCR testing can be used for asymptomatic mass-testing.
Which seems way ahead of the Sanger institute 54,000 samples now that is a trial.
@Airlineboy
In addition, Schools and Colleges ' will not be expected ' to provide test kits to families or administer the family testing process.
The Govt advice is full of weasel words because basically they are washing their hands of the whole process and are not willing to take any real leadership and avoid responsibility should things go awry or horribly wrong re: individual cases or otherwise.
Lol Soder, I had my fair share of useless teachers BUT most were fantastic, patient and nurturing and as I've matured I realise how difficult a job they have. I take my hat off to them, as I'd be inside for murder or at the very least battery and assault! I think everyone at our school is great and I do place a lot of trust in them. I think they could carry out the testing!
Airlineboy you seem to place an awful lot of trust in the competence of school staff to be able to do it. I don’t know what your teachers were like at school but a decent proportion of mine were absolute morons.
As a schoolteacher for 38 yrs in many schools there is little I have not seen or even done. Tests are mooted. Just like Boris said schools were safe when they certainly are not....I would say that home testing is a mistaken farce. Many parents will not do it and some kids will refuse. Some parents snd /or kids are sure to tell untruths . One cannot put the onus on parents. It won’t work. Period.
But they may do it anyway. 65% success rate LFT? Not sure apart from kudos as to the govt’s rationale. You simply cannot rely upon home testing . You really can’t. And as one poster put....it could create a nice little market.
I have not taught since March as my wife has copd . But she has first jab tomorrow and me Thursday. I will ask some colleagues what the score is.
Not gonna work.
Waste of money and unreliable means of monitoring as implementation cannot be trusted.
OK i didn't realise that I thought it was compulsory. As the tests are so inaccurate I have to wonder if it really matters?
Crazy that only 81,000 positive cases out of 4.18m have been identified as a result of LFT's but yet that is where the focus seems to be.
@Airlineboy,
The Govt document says initially ' As laid out in the road map, secondary school pupils and college students WILL now be tested twice a week. However, later says ' will be encouraged but NOT mandatory '.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/all-households-with-children-of-school-aged-to-get-rapid-covid-19-tests-per-person-per-week
Kaeren, it will be an unmitigated disaster where most teens are concerned. The only way to ensure the little darlings are properly tested is to do it during the day at school by a member of staff!
Exmex re the 10bn is that replacing the 22bn tender which lots including microgen were in for?
Plenty of info in this short video regarding lateral flow test's. From the info contained it appears that the DHSC are in the process of setting up a Dynamic Purchasing System for lft's starting later this month with an expenditure ceiling of £10 billion for the next 12 month's.
https://vimeo.com/516654709/b3f7bdeda6
Imagine being a single parent with erm how to phrase this , street wise kids who oft bunk school aged 14/15/16 etc , can you see them sitting nicely whilst mummy or daddy impale them on a stick or self administering , at least with little ones you stand a small chance with blackmail , sweeties, up late etc. Just don't see this working with kids. They will poke it just inside nostril if at all. I recall at 16 I thought I was invincible and was a horror heeding no ones advice and doing what I thought was cool. They arent going to be thinking about transmitting it to others, the vast majority will pay lip service if that.
Yes troublesome, compulsory for secondary school but our junior schools is recommending them as well. We're doing them, although I am not sure of the major benefits of the lateral flow tests but I guess for right now they are better than nothing.
Not sure but are tests compulsory for secondary school pupils and students ?
' Secondary schools WILL be expected to carry out 3 on-site covid tests of their pupils within the first fortnight before switching to home-testing. '