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I was away for most of Feb and start of March so didn't read everything. Would like to read comments on this. Any know when it was posted? Thx
https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/120/northern-ireland-affairs-committee/publications/written-evidence/
Harland and Wolff DNS0006
The second from last paragraph on page 4 highlights the socio-economic issues faced by communities in the areas of HW four facilities. This highlights the need for heightened consideration when awarding future MoD contracts...tick
Page five talks of creating a freeport or investment zone in NI...tick
Good post Kaeran
Kaeren No this has not been mentioned or viewed at all.
I found the RUSI Paper no 2 good reading as well where the Authors discuss Thales H + W and Spirit Aerospace as the three main companies not being utilized.
Perhaps we could see collaborations between these companies in the future.
https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/occasional-papers/defence-industry-northern-ireland-leveraging-untapped-potential
OK , saves ploughing back , thx Lottie and Scaffman.
Surprised there was no mention of Electric Tugs, Battery Development or Austal MOU (especially with Border Force about to go live)
Broomtree if you read the document, they are answering in written format specific questions. They would look pretty stupid if they started blabbering on about electric tugs. Read the questions.
Broomtree ref 00.17 post This shows a lack of understanding of what the document is and its purpose. The document is a formal submission to the Northern Ireland Affairs Select Committee Inquiry into MoD spendiing in Northern Ireland. As a result the things you say HARL should have said more about are totally irrelevant to the subject to the inquiry.
Kaeren thanks for posting this I had actually managed tom forget about this inquiry. The first evidence session is at 9.30 on the 17 April 2024. In reading the submission I noted this portion
' In addition to the 2 primary contracts for MoD, Harland & Wolff are also building and supporting dock infrastructure and assets operated by private industry on behalf of the UK Royal Navy. This support and build include the fabrication of barges, dock gates and caissons, all in direct support of UK MOD and undertaken in Belfast and Appledore.'
This is not a reference to the Falklands Contract as it specificallysays UK MOD. The only contract that fits hat description is the floating dock forthe submarine base. I note that we have had no RNS on any contract that fits with that description so I could be wrong.
Ah , I thought you had mentioned something . Yes Stokey I noticed that too.
Stokey do you recall someone mentioning a visit to Appledore in particular by bae who are very busy building submarines last quarter of last year I think
Do they need a refit at fass lane the docking bays?
Bubble2021 ref 08.03 pos If I recall correctly the issue is that they do not have enough drydock space so the floating docks are needed to increase capacity.
Ref 08.01 post I vaguely remember the visit if I recall did it not spark takeover rumours?
They are also building a chain barge at Appledore for a BAE JV.
I see, yes I think it did spark a rumour at the time maybe it was for other reasons the visit
No specific RNS but fits the bit about " assets operated by private industry on behalf of the UK Royal Navy".
https://www.harland-wolff.com/news/harland-wolff-cuts-first-steel-on-new-cable-barge-for-kbs-maritime/
Actually I did read the questions and there’s no lack of understanding on my part, though clearly a difference with yours.
I would have thought under defence putting down a ‘marker’ for the Border Force contract was very
relevant, in terms of skills development and future applications the tugs and batteries would also be a good fit… certainly in terms of potential exports as valid as converting two US cruise ships
Broomtree ref 09.08 post I am not sure if you were responding to my post or Kaeren's post but as I mentioned in my 05.02 post the document was a submission to the Northern Ireland Affairs Select Committee Inquiry into MOD spending in Northern Ireland. It follows that the Border Force contract is irrelevant to the question of MOD spending as they are different departments. Also all you say in your 09.08 post outside are outside the Call For Evidence in relation to he Inquiry which set out the questions that the committee wanted answers to.
Https://twitter.com/CommonsNIAC/status/1764991753357025596
Its funny that even on the defense select comm. twitter feed for the submissions they use the H+W crane
If only H+W could collect royalties for everytime its represented. lol
Ref my 09.32 post this is a link to the press release at the time of the launch of the inquiry https://committees.parliament.uk/work/8226/defence-spending-in-northern-ireland/news/199776/mps-examine-options-to-boost-the-defence-economy-in-northern-ireland/ I cannot see anything in the terms of reference or the questions asked that would support Broomtree's interpretation. It has to be remembered that this inquiry is looking at defence spending in Northern Ireland as a whole and is not specific. Question 5 which deals with skills ask if the skills currently exists rather than what needs to be done to improve the skills.
Harl are expanding and increasing the workforce with a mixture of experience and new apprentices, this time next year will see an increase in workforce and other companies associated with supporting the shipbuilding and maintenance industry
Ha ha and yet Harl in their response make several points about improving skills going forward…. And include a mention about Methil and Arnish doing off shore work?
Like a dog with a bone Stokey