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But which genre did those people think this game is? Frontier are advertising an RTS but showing a lightweight console-style tactics game - which typically is priced around £20 or less.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1844380/discussions/0/3816291531967827135/
60$?
played the beta, and this is not a RTS, not even a moba, its a tower defence basically, u get the capture point, put a turret or upgrade on it, and stand there, its nothing like DOW2 and def not worth 60 maybe 20
There's no market for strategy games on consoles. The entirety of the market is on PC. And by making a half assed console game on PC, they wont get neither the pc audience nor the non existing console one
This game looks like simplified Dawn of War 2. It would be fine if it weren't priced $60.
Hi there, well as a non gamer, I have just asked a room full of colleagues (40 approx) about this game and more importantly its price. Seems it is a well liked genre, about 75% of people know about it, price is lower than expected for nearly 75% of those that play, 25% thought about right.
It will be interesting to see the out come. Thanks for alerting me to the news.
And insane pricing. £50 to £65. This is going to be an epic fail. What we saw in the beta test was so shallow it cannot honestly be called an RTS game. Frontier has again jumped into a game genre and franchise it has no clue about with no understanding of what players want. Steam reviews will rip this to shreds znd leave it for dead in a week.
17th Nov 2023. Yes, 2023!
Whisp3rs39 You are entitled to your opinion. I am staying put. Would recover to just over 600. May not get back to £10.
Not to read too much into the trend following that RNS, but I would not be surprised by 10% SP drop when everyone else sees the news on Monday. And we can expect another fund TR1 within days.
& below 400 ;( Sorry Swingman, only trying to help people save money these days.
Well done he here who predicted a TR1. RNS today shows the big seller is Svedbank Robur. 7% left to go.
Very disappointing news. FD announces the first significant update will address only four of the hundreds of bugs reported. And is two or more weeks away. Far too late to recue sales.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2287220/discussions/0/6363075944121453527/
"So is a 25% drop overdone on NO news"
The F1M mess-up is not no news.
"FDEV is still working hard and releasing titles."
Fewer this FY than half the previous.
And when those titles are as messed up as the last four from FDEV, then best they not be released at all.
The new CEO needs to make radical changes.
> He was obviously doing a lot of other, non-FD, stuff in last few years as CEO
Yes - obvious from the mess he left FD in. Fixing that up is going to be quite a challenge for the new guy.
Asa. 32.72% shareholder, you can be sure he calls the shots. He was obviously doing a lot of other, non-FD, stuff in last few years as CEO, and his succession planning gone badly awry with new guy, even if long time insider. Are they. All too old and out of touch? Tencent with their 8.6% must be fuming.
May well ripe for Takeover .....it seems the current team may have lost edge....we need cheaper high quality games at 19.99 not expensive gimmicks at 45 it's all about understanding your target market
"David Braben? Latter (and 33% owner!) will have to act soon"
How can he? He's lost exec position and majority control.
Someone is calling shots at high level. He who booted Braben l. But that's probably one of the bank investors, knows nothing of games. So not likely to act directly on the F1M fiasco.
No, action on F1M has to come from the CEO.
It’s fine having a cute private company where everyone gets looked after and treated like a lifer, and no one owns their failures, but when it’s publicly traded with other peoples money and the leaders keep releasing mess after mess after mess after mess …
The CEO has been in post for less than a year. We have seen no descisions from him. Too early to judge him a "rubbish CEO".
We should judge whoever decided to give that job to him, the Chief Creative Officer. Responsible for rubbish games ouput for the last few years.
Does anyone know who replaced him?
Hard to know why CEO is such a fail. Long time employee. Developer, Production Head, 10 years as Chief Creative Officer. He couldn't know the business better. But a rubbish CEO? Too much sucking up to the long time boss/founder David Braben? Latter (and 33% owner!) will have to act soon if the -vity over F1 2023 is as true as it seems. Perhaps he'll sell the company, needs rebooting one way or the other.
Just keep repeating your filth a6nd hope you make lot by shorting.
Investors too expected more than an update. They expected the "new game" which the CEO said would be one of two delivered in FY24.
" SP has dropped 20% since release ". 27% since first reviews, July 27. The graph is a straight downslope. The question is, where/when will it stop.
Hi 404x
My thinking was everyone who played or looked at 22 knew how bad it was, the communication 2 month after release gave the impression Frontier would be giving up on 22 to fix the game for 23, so expectations was already low and tempters were already flaring. The 40% drop came as 6 month sales got released along with a reduced forcast, big investors and customers knew 23 would still not be the game they desired, thats where I believed it was already partly priced in to the SP, not the price of the game, that'd make no sense.
If Frontier had implememted & promoted a host of new wanted features and content in the build up to release for 23 the SP would not be below 650 imo, so again, I think it was 'partly' priced in, not fully ffs!
Do my other posts lead you to believe I haven't read the reviews or being involved on that side? That's why I'm here, to highlight the growing venom towards the F1 Manager team from potential customers and give a warning that this isn't just bad, it could be catastrophic for Frontier if they try the same again for 24.
Damn right nobody will buy just an updated 22 for £45, again, thats why im on here & that's why it's tanking as more information come to light and the communication with the F1 Manager department becomes more toxic. Customers are rightly livid at the price to content ratio and been taken for mugs due to the licence.
My 'partly priced in' quote was to also show I'm not a shorter or have an agenda to drag the SP down.
Read carefully;
If 23 was expected to have a raft of new features, content, no bugs & great AI then the SP of Frontier would have been much higher than 600 before release as anticipation grew. It wasn't! Why? IT WAS ALREADY PARTLY PRICED IN THIS YEAR WOULD ALSO BE SH*T. Anyone else not understand that? This could easily go below 400 for sure, I wouldn't want it to but if they don't get a grip of this situation big investors will look elsewhere, if they're not already. The continual 5% drops don't come from just PI's selling. I expect a tr1 to state a reduced investment by some big boys.
"Surly this years is partly priced in already, everyone knew it was just a updated 22"
It was priced as a full price release, nobody in their right mind would pay £45-55 for an update only. You've only got to read the reviews to see how users expected much more than an update of last year's title - a number of them literally say that. And self evidently it wasn't priced in as SP has dropped 20% since release.
Is this going down to £3??
Is there some expected news that will lift it over 600?
Shorter are trying to scare the buyers. I just jumped in and bought some more. It will be over 600 soon. DYOR
It’s incredible how much damage they appear to have done to FDEV’s reputation via the car crash strategy they’ve applied to the F1 manager series. Add in the failed foundry experiment and it starts to look quite desperate. IMO this could easily trade at the 1x sales if they post a significant loss in H1.