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You can join any telegram group .
I can’t send you link as then the company can access the shareholder group Telegram. LSE does not allow emails, so I would be banned here.
Everyone else can access 4D pharma shareholders action group.
Request crl123’s email address.
I have Telegram on my mobile but I can't search.
Can't you just give us the email ?
how to join the group / I have downloaded Telegram
They have 100 employees out of which only 15 officially work for them.
I’m assuming everyone is still currently employed. I keep an eye on www.Glassdoor.co.U.K., where employees can post reviews about the companies they work for, because often a spate of negative reviews can be the first indication of something wrong/ mass redundancies. So far there has been nothing…
Visit Telegram and join 4D Pharma shareholders. and ask to join the shareholder group. An email will arrive
65 members to date. Over £5.5m invested..
No shareholder action group has been formed more quickly. From first day.
5 weeks before Interpath present conclusions. Shareholders should not expect a bean.Information was hidden regarding breaches of Covenant and cash held.False seductive promises and timelines. Finances not managrd. The very contract with OF may even breach shareholder FCA rights.
Legal action being investigated in detail. Individually and the group.
Down load Telegram.
Search 4D pharma
Ask for email to person organizing the group.
Is simple.
Dorsn’t matter how much you lost.
Try a search for Colin Lawrence ( organiser ) on Telegram
Can somebody advise me on how I can join the action group on telegram, I’ve managed to download the telegram app, but don’t know what my next step should be too join, I only have a few thousand shares, but everything is relative, don’t want to lose all of possible… many thanks for any help….Bill
Can somebody advise me on how I can join the action group on telegram, I’ve managed to download the telegram app, but don’t know what my next step should be too join, I only have a few thousand shares, but everything is relative, don’t want to lose all of possible… many thanks for any help….Bill
I presume the staff are still employed by 4d? What about the trials?
Seems to have gone a bit quiet in the last week.
Thanks crl123 - appreciate yours and other LTH's efforts here. I've joined the Telegram group chat and like many I've invested a lot (for me anyway) thinking that 4D had a great long term potential with all the filed patents and promising products only to find we've been taken for fools. I agree, I'm counting this money as lost but I was also in at Hurricane with a fairly small amount and that came good (well as much you can expect) and there's a vey small chance of recovering some money depending on the credit report when it comes back, all we can do is write it off and have a small glimmer of hope and I'm certainly comfortable with joining any shareholder legal action as needed.
I've probably missed it last week, but there are updates on CH database:
4 charges were filled on 29th of Jun. / delivered 5th of Jul. (Oxford Finance Luxembourg S.a R.L. is just formally ring-fencing their already securitized rights)
Then two fillings (published on the same: 5-Jul): admin and address change (for Interpath).
"Insolvency" section added to company profile with contacts of IPs.
(interestingly they clearly name it like that, formally insolvency is different from doubtful solvency in a way what for former shareholders don't get anything, while with latter they might get something).
Thanks Andrew. I need to find out what is an apps store. Will talk to my daughter tomorrow. By the way I do not have a mobile phone from choice but I know we have been taken to the cleaners by this management. Thank you.
Tim Adams has set up one Telegram group and has posted the link in his Twitter feed (tima441). You would need to download Telegram from your App Store.
Regards
Andrew
How do I register to join the telegram group? Is it via email or google? I have never used facebook or whats app or the other apps. Any help appreciated.
At present the action group has 46 members who have lost just over £4m investment.
I have not counted the shares as yet as it is is the sum invested which was initially needed. There are betwen 5-10 investors with £200k to £500k invested. You have to be wary of what the truth is though.
The group is. inundated . The horror stories of peoples’ lives decimated is awake-up call and Duncan should lie in utter shame . Not forgiveable. He knew. It was fraud and as such must be proven.
I would appreciate precise misinformations and/or omissions of market sensitive information as solicitors are asking for this.
Liste with dates would be great.
Others havve give some info but it needs to bevprecise.
If anyone wants their money back, do it.
I have informed Interpath that there is a group and the sum invested. Nothing more.
No legal action has yet been taken -nor should it until necessary-apart from by individualls on DP or maybe they are bragging.. Interpath are just doing a job. DP does not care if we are dumped…let’s be real. Nor do creditors. So shareholders will get nada. There are six weeks until Interpath report back on creditor response. Shareholders may not vote. Representation is important or…yes…we will be shafted. It is the norm. Expect nothing unless squeezed. And eventially by a representative group like Seres or Angus or Flybe. DP has genuinely taken us all for a ride here. He knew it all.
Butbif facts and omissions can be itemised and dated, then he has something coming to him.
Interpath know of the group and have acknowledged. Today they were emailed the sum lost by investors. We are talking a huge number of shares here .
The way forward is uncertain.
But to lie back and give it all up to a conman(?) Is a large pharma really gonna give a cent back to shareholders? Relist with new capital?
It doesn’t really work like that in the cuththroat world of business. We are history unless DP genuinely means business( what do you think?) . I think he will be eaten alive . I want to believe the nice things. I really do.
Telegram group if u want to registe
Amirkat: you’ve been very unlucky to be in these three shares. NMC and Finablr were the victims of a huge fraud. It’s not clear how DDDD shareholders find themselves in this position. However, the Administrators appointed at both companies are still in place. It’s not in their interests to work in a very speedy fashion, the fees are very good and it’s easy for them just to roll over the provisional dates of their appointment as they successively expire (though it’s true that these two are are complicated cases). In both cases, it seems highly unlikely that ordinary shareholders will see a return of any kind on their shareholdings, sadly. I don’t know what lessons can be learned from this kind of thing, other than avoid companies with high financial leverage and onerous Charges on their loans. And take notice early when Muddy Waters publishes an exposé on a company whose shares you own.
May have already been posted. Astrazeneca bought an early stage (p1) cancer research company. £84m with a couple of milestones adding up to ver 1billion.
They seem hungry for early stage cancer stuff.
GLA and fingers crossed.
They won’t delete them; I’ve still got NMC and Finablr shares listed in HL and AJ Bell accounts. They sank to the bottom over two years ago. They serve as a salutary reminder of past mistakes, to which I can now add 4d pharma. In time, if the financial loss is bearable you will barely notice them amongst other ‘live’ shares, save the odd occasion when you choose to ruminate on life’s occasional bitterness.
The only way it comes back to AIM is that the Admin / BoD finds money from somewhere. Not only the debt but funding for the coming 12 months? - so quite a few millions me thinks. Maybe they can sell one or two of their IP’s - but its anyones guess what value these are worth.
The other option is a big pharma buys the company, and after paying creditors there is something left to pay us shareholders. I think we’ll need more than one bidder, otherwise the selling price may well be low, but putting a spin on it that they will save the company, keep staff employed etc, but shafting the shareholders who have pumped hundreds of millions into the company.
But I suspect learn that if they were to do that they would take it "private"; why do they need a bunch of hangers on like us?! 4D has already proven that having a public listing is not all that it is cracked up to be; indeed it was probably their downfall - the plummeting sp made it impossible for them to riase money thorugh the market.
My only hope here is any big pharma sees the value of 4D pipelines and buy it and get rid of management team, to get it back trading on AIM, to do a placing later when sp gets higher to fund the trails, nothing to loose for the one to buy it.
At the moment I just assume all my investment is gone here. So I can enjoy the summer. All the best of luck to all of us
Soon hopefully so we can forget about the pile of ****
It’s suspended with various arms of the company still operating. It’s not gone, yet. Maybe it will, maybe it won’t.