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mikemike - doctored sheets? Buys and sells? Last trade? You are a liar and a fantasist. You continue to make all these claims, in public, to your fellow LSE posters and they'll keep coming back to haunt you - so please, back them up. I've proven I'm a stock holder. I'll allow you to prove I'm not.Otherwise, this is yet another falsehood to convince people you know what you're talking about. You don't. You've also completely ignored the facts, produced by your own very hand, of claiming this will be a "fantastic outcome" and guaranteed win for everyone! Funny that isn't it?Some people on here are desperate for advice and hopeful words and you continue to set yourself up as a provider of it. Shameful. This is other people's money and you have no right to mislead them. There's only one sentence in your reply to Fregatr which is literally true:"Mid March will tell us what is happening"..which is what EVERYONE already knows (indeed, I'd said it myself yesterday! How flattering).I feel so very, very sorry for you if it's not just your money that you've invested but so much of your self esteem that you need to slander strangers on the internet for recognition as a snake oil stock peddler.Seriously though - waiting for the proof of these sells! This should be a good one. Sit down comfortably, everyone!
Blitzed you are not invested you neglected to copy and paste the doctored sheets showing your buys and sells, particularly the last sell trade.
I continue to hold and will not be adding more as my risk weighted portfolio follows a discipline. I wonder if you will come back in at the last minute, unwinding your short position..
Looks like I was correct and the certainty of an adverse Judicial Review has ensured that the panel heard the basis of the appeal over two days whist accepting the financial surety that was so opposed by ROI and their friends like you.
All that is needed is for any one of the 17 points raised to be accepted.
Good luck with 'short.'
I do concede you are correct on one point, an obvious point that applies to you in equal measure.
Never trust any post on a Bulletin board
More so, when delivered by an out of control aggressive poster who demands that people seek his forgiveness for making a post he does not agree with. Your posting history here confirms. No need for magic internet for that trail to be exposed.
fregatr
The moment that the panl agreed to accept the financial security offered and then held the two day coffee loaded hearing. this was a significant moment. there are some posting here who believed that would never happen. They aggressively lambasted anyone who did not agree with them, still do.
The panel following the CC presentation must have retreated with a ''WTF do we do now? We have only heard just 6 of the 17!!''
I suspect they have worked their way through all 17 points raised and may have been able to cover some of those off, but not all, and only 1 is needed for validity.
''Ok we have covered all 17, dumped more than a few on technical and procedural issues, we hope!! Should this go to Judicial Review it is not going to be pretty, time to phone a friend and ask our boss at the World Bank. The e-mail keeps pining back telling us 'best of luck I just retired early'!!!!!!!''
Mid March will tell us what is happening. Churchill will get suspended 3 days prior to the announcement. Some on here may wish to get back in, some will stay out, some may dump what they have left.
I guess the good news is someone bought them! I agree with you comment but fear the bust part. Still sometimes right prevails but not banking on it. GLA
Those 400ks are one of the warrant holders offloading. Think it’s Nicholas slater. Always dropping them at close of play. He’s under 3% now so don’t think he’s got too many left.
Either way it’s **** or bust for most on here anyway. I’m holding till the fat lady sings
Thanks for your reply Mike. Good to see a couple of 400,000 deals go through then worked out how much it is in real money but still better than nothing.
Of course, and the thing to remember is that we don't know what will happen and anyone who tells you otherwise is a (proven, on multiple occasions) liar. Beware those making guarantees but who are nevertheless peddling the usual heady mix of speculation and snake oil.
Unless of course, you ask if they're happy for you to invest their money in your place.. then watch them suddenly clam up ;)
Goodness me....I started this thread on the back of the announcement with a tongue in cheek comment that I'd managed to miss it. I didn't expect it to develop into a slanging match between two clear adversaries.
Gentlemen, whatever history there is between you, surely isnt it better to concentrate on what might happen in a months time, rather than attack each other? Just a thought !
On HL, my 520 shares is showing a share price of 2.6p. If I sell [?], it will return £13.52 of which is not deducted yet for broker commission. I don*t need to do anything LoL.
Anyone with a basic grasp of English can see that:
"This is going to be a fantastic outcome." - Your words, on here, 5th July 2018
..very much DOES mean a guaranteed win for all CHL shareholders. Unless you don't understand what you wrote yourself? And for anyone, in any doubt whatsoever, as to the credibility of "mikemike" (maybe you named yourself twice to help your poor memory?):
"You are not invested here" - Your words, on here, 12th February 2019
..and here's where I proved you wrong the first time:
https://i.imgur.com/qRthHID.jpg - 2nd July 2018
..as well as the original link itself, as pictured, still from that very day:
https://i.imgur.com/BkdgRQx.jpg
Everyone is welcome to look it up, cross reference it, and prove for themselves that mikemike is a known ramper, a proven fantasist, and who will tell anyone hopeful enough to listen (including himself) about the fantastic outcomes of which he has NO idea.
This has, and will be until the day the decision drops, a complete unknown and we are at the mercy of arbitration. No amount of speculation, idealism, WW-bunker mentality, name calling, lying, accusing people of not being shareholders, or deny the facts in front of them will change that.
mikemike is now - as shown above - a proven liar on these boards and you'll be leading yourself down a rabbit hole of lies and denials to engage him. Don't let him twist your feelings on your hard-earned investments.
mikemike
Thank you for the courtesy of a reply.
What would I like to see?
I remember one chap from academia that bought £50k of CHL stock in those heady days. I hope for his sake his wife never got to know.
I have developed an American attitude [please people dont ...]. I feel that a win of any sort would be good but commercial sense also has to provide a balance?
In terms of management speak, one has to prepare for worst case, mid-case and best case.
So, hence, why the CEO*s thoughts would be good to know. If CHL were still on AIM, it could be a shell and an RTO sought.
However, since CHL is on NEX, I am not too sure it is possible in that exact way.
I would like to think that there is a way of progressive thinking and a good outcome whatever happens from a progressive leadership in this co?
Maybe I am not a quitter. From my years on AIM, I have learnt resilience and fortitude.
However, I may wish to put up my feet sometime soon, hence why I asked.
Once again, my appreciation for the reply.
Tues, 12 Feb 2019
News
As far as I am aware D Q has not made any official statements since the last meeting with those who attended. The only public statements since then have been by RNS
I would be surprised if he would wish to proceed with the Indon project. I suspect many investors would be very much risk adverse in this regard.
If it was put to a vote to 'pay out' or proceed with investing I suspect the vote would be for a 'pay out'.
In addition I suspect that this case has taken a toll that many here will not see or know about I would not blame DQ for taking his rewards and seeking a quiet life.
What would you wish to see happen
Blitz
Thank you for confirming ghat you are a liar
It is very clear I never said .
''that this is a guaranteed win for all CHL shareholders.''
That ICSID will fear the worst from a Judicial Review based upon the 17 points raised is very clear. They will not want to be held as incompetent.
You are not invested here stop making it up as you go along
I bought 520 shares on 5/12/2016 as a Xmas punt. At HL, one can click the stock symbol and it will take one to data which shows when the stock was bought etc.
Since, it is not tradeable online, I have just left it since the sum involved is too small to worry about.
However, it has given me a opportunity to delve more deeply into tribunal cases. Suffice to say, I have not bought any other tribunal cases since following CHL*s case closely. It has allowed me an opportunity to know the finer art of arbitration.
In the past, there were investors who were in touch with the CEO of CHL.
Is anyone still in touch with him?
I wonder if he has forward plans for this co, post arbitration results?
Thanks.
Tues, 12 Feb 2019
CHL is quoted on NEX currently.
Well I thought that was going to take longer, but there it is, straight away back in July:
https://imgur.com/a/rlA4Gpa
Your own words mikemike. Guaranteeing a "fantastic outcome" and presuming to know what international arbitration boards are thinking when your qualifications are.. what, again? Oh yeah. You know how to use a keyboard.
You owe everyone on here an apology for letting them think you know what you're talking about.
I'll even let you claiming I'm not a shareholder slide for a second time for it if you like.
mikemike, are you suffering from some kind of memory loss? Or are you some kind of Trump character where you think you can repeat things often and loud enough and people won't remember? Don't you remember the last time you accused me of not being invested here and I posted a link to a screenshot of my holdings?
In which case, why have you fabricated a line saying I'm not invested? I already have. We've done this. You were proven wrong and didn't back down. It's in this forum history, in black and white. You can go back and find it.
And in the meantime, I'll go back and find where you told everyone it was a guaranteed win, just as you've suggested. You're a liar and a fantasist, and you always have been. You have no credibility whatsoever.
You can claim I don't either, but the difference is, I'm not claiming any as I've never pretend to know what will happen here - because no-one can. But you still do anyway when it's other people's hopes and money involved.
Shameful.
9th July
''Hi OF,
I'm offering you the opportunity to separate yourself from those individuals on here who are insistent on convincing everyone that they're delusional. Yes, you got swept up in it and made claims about whether I was a shareholder and what I bought in at - but we've now seen that making wild claims just because you're anonymous on the internet doesn't mean that they're going to be true. So perhaps you can help bring a little sense, calm and humility back to these boards.
And then it'll just be the very obvious individual who thinks he knows something that the markets don't about this stock being a guaranteed win (Newsflash: Share price *still* at 2.8p!). Whether you can accept that you were wrong about my intentions and motivations or not because they challenged your optimism, everyone should be able to agree that calling this stock a "no brainer" and guaranteeing "a fantastic outcome" is utter lunacy.
And yes, it's completely irresponsible too.''
So the message is, if you all bow down and confess before Blitzed to, how does he put it? ah yes; ''I'm offering you the opportunity to separate yourself from those individuals on here'' and then on bended knees beg his forgiveness, then you may just be allowed to post an opinion that agrees with his.
Fregatr
I understand that the process allows for both parties to see in advance the thoughts based upon their interpretation of the appeal made by CH. This gives both parties the opportunities to question and respond.
The above process to be covered by an NDA.
I suspect the parties will get a ''sense'' of how this is looking based upon the Q& A.
Investors will know soon enough and will either be happy/unhappy accordingly.
Non investors who appear here now and then will get the same. They will react accordingly.
Blitzed back to peddle more lies
Please copy and paste the post with date and time, where you say I stated
''Remember this is the poster who aggressively claimed last year that this is a guaranteed win for all CHL shareholders''
You will never find any such, as it never existed
So you are back here yet again, aggressive as usual and peddling more lies.
Any reason why you did not share your disclaimer
'' I am not invested here''
You had no credibility last time, it seems nothing has changed.
You correctly posted
"will ROI if having won be able to keep it a secret as.."
Then again you knew that, and it is a little more than naughty, let alone compelling, to have that little word ''if'' seen in correct context. ''IF'' being the key word.
Sort of makes your post like you, somewhat snake like.. time to belly slither back under the door into the night.'' Leave us investors to ruminate on what may or not happen in mid March
Although you will deny it, as usual. You are desperate to see investors fail as you chose to leave and want to desperately justify to your decision in seeing others lose.
''There are those in life who can only fill their lives, surviving and thriving, by trying to empty the lives of others.''
My glass is way more than half filled.
The thumbs on your post, is that you calling 'phone a friend' prior to your posting. Somewhat like you managed to arrange last time your presence blessed this board?
Your mistake is asking mikemike anything. Remember this is the poster who aggressively claimed last year that this is a guaranteed win for all CHL shareholders. And yet on Saturday he's posted:
"will ROI if having won be able to keep it a secret as.."
..thus proving, yet again, that he has no idea what he's talking about. Pure, unqualified speculation and he's in the dark just like the rest of us. We can only wait and see with no real idea what will happen.
Remembering $1.35bn was the original claim, but of course there's more interest to add now!
Morning...good to see a little life on this BB after so long.
I dont think they know the result yet. They will have prior knowledge though and I would expect the share to suspend. At least that's what would happen with AIM, not sure with NEX. I seem to remember there were a few 'sensible' forecasts of sp with a successful outcome, but does anyone know what they were? It's guesswork of course, but the compensation is potentially huge. I think annulment will send it back to 30-50p, but full result is another thing
Mike, if the ROI and DQ know the outcome, why the delay until md March? If it’s known I guess the buying interest is a good sign....still not convinced though. We would be at 50p by now if the signs were good. I continue to sit and wait like many others. 30p gets me out of my IG position and 27p is my average hold...some way to go yet for me!, GLA
ROI will already know the outcome as will DQ hence being invited to make comments etc
will ROI if having won be able to keep it a secret as it may benefit some in their election campaign?
If they did leak what will be the penalty? the naught step :))
And no, I haven't had a drink!!
Annulment granted. Out of court deal. Share suspended and then back at £5 plus!!
And then I woke up!