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Nice to see volume up to over 800k (690k buys) prior to news this week perhaps. GLA
Next week is important but no where near as important as the sword of Damocles hanging over the head of ICSID in the shape of a Judicial Review where no stone will remain unturned.
ICSID will be desperate for an agreed unpublished settlement.
Still waiting for the next bit of news .
One day , perhaps ,our chicken will come home.
Anything is possible .
Best of All
''I'm offering you the opportunity to separate yourself '' sounds like a snake oil salesman.
''Yes, you got swept up in it '' more arrogant condescending ignorance.
''So perhaps you can help bring a little sense, calm and humility back to these boards.'' So when are you leaving, that should do it nicely.After all ''little sense'' posting on a BB you are not invested in.
''this stock a "no brainer" and guaranteeing "a fantastic outcome" is utter lunacy;; yep time you shorters did just that.
Now tell us about the Judicial Review system. How many time have ICSID been reviewed and how many times their Arbitrators have been declared incompetent.
Hi OF,
I'm offering you the opportunity to separate yourself from those individuals on here who are insistent on convincing everyone that they're delusional. Yes, you got swept up in it and made claims about whether I was a shareholder and what I bought in at - but we've now seen that making wild claims just because you're anonymous on the internet doesn't mean that they're going to be true. So perhaps you can help bring a little sense, calm and humility back to these boards.
And then it'll just be the very obvious individual who thinks he knows something that the markets don't about this stock being a guaranteed win (Newsflash: Share price *still* at 2.8p!). Whether you can accept that you were wrong about my intentions and motivations or not because they challenged your optimism, everyone should be able to agree that calling this stock a "no brainer" and guaranteeing "a fantastic outcome" is utter lunacy.
And yes, it's completely irresponsible too.
Blitzed has nothing to offer. He admits he is not long but has denied being Short. No that he has been disclosed as a Short he will probably remember to deny that as well. Blitzed so predictable. yellow streak where the spine should be etc.
That Blitz likes to deny history and the lessons learned like not standing your ground means you get what you deserve etc. That he does not understand the importance of the potential for a Judicial Review shows how poorly researched he is. He will have no idea how many Arbitration finds have been overturned against those upheld, let alone the reasons for it
Time for him to belly slither back out under the door where he can scream in space, no one can hear him.
Not invested nor willing to admit he holds a short position tells us all we need to know. Being condescending to investors by claiming he is the only person who can do research that will save us all is about as laughable as it gets. A real messiah walter mitty moment. Will I ever stop laughing.
Remember there are 2 sides to this discussion, so what are you offering from your side?
Hi again OF.
I don't think anyone can stop mikemike thinking it's still WWII and he's Dad's Army, but you and I can solve this pretty quickly:
- You can admit that you were wrong for claiming that I'm not a shareholder
- You can admit that you were wrong that I bought shares at 2.8p and am trying to protect them
- You can stop posting only buys that could easily be interpreted as ramping
I don't expect you to do the first two but if you keep doing the latter, then I'm going to call you out on it no matter what names you want to give it. Also be aware it wasn't even myself who first called what you're doing ramping, so maybe it's time to stop it and take (aha!) stock.
Oh my goodness, this is really getting hilarious with the great policeman of the bb claimimg he is stopping other investors getting harmed. Well done pal because you have achieved what I have been trying to achieve right from the start (and I said so) and that is the bb remaining active since the auto Share Price Search on LSE stopped working when the stock went to NEX.
I am very happy for investors to check out all the facts and decide whether this is something for them. I was happy, and still am, to have taken a punt with CHL. Our bb policeman wants to control what others do and consistently deramps the stock whilst ridiculously claiming he sets out a fair picture yet using emotive words such as bile, harm etc
But you keep going mate cos it's helping a lot of others find this stock and make up their own minds about its rights and wrongs. We only have a couple of weeks before we have answers.
PS We had a RNS earlier today but our policeman didn't even mention it. It was only a change in Non execs but worth a mention. Just typical.
If you two were trying to convince everyone else here that you're reasonable, competent and trustworthy, you might want to ask LSE to add a delete button to these boards.
As it is, you're doing nothing to convince anyone that you're not just interested in posting blind optimism, nonsense and bile. Remember: It's still not my fault our stocks are in the dirt so don't take it out on me or anyone else.
p.s. OF - that's at least twice now that you've got your facts publicly wrong and that's just about me. First I didn't own any shares at all and now I bought them at 2.8p, eh?
https://i.imgur.com/2A8ShF8.jpg
This was a transfer in of stock first bought over five years ago. So that's twice you need to admit you've screwed up. If people here can't trust you two on claims like this, what *can* they trust you on? Nothing - especially when there's money at stake. Like many others here, I've lost several thousand on this so far and I'm presenting the facts here specifically so that you two don't cause further harm to anyone else.
''Those paying attention to what's actually happening in the real world will recognise that the case is being decided by the ICSID.. and not these two clowns. This stock is far from a "no brainer" and their analysis isn't worth the pixels they're printed on - DON'T put any more money in based on their ramping and blind optimism.''
Or
Those paying attention to what's actually happening in the real world will recognise that the case is being decided by the ICSID.. and not by the clown known as Blized these two clowns. This stock is far from a "no brainer" and his analysis isn't worth the pixels it's printed on - DON'T put any more money in based on his de ramping and blind negativity driven by the exposed short position that he holds. In addition ignoring the potential for a Judicial Review would be tantamount to extreme negligence.
DON'T BUY THIS STOCK! It could go down in price. (It could go up too but I am not allowed to mention that because I would be being positive and apparently that is a bad thing). Just to mention that the poster who thinks like this bought his shares at 2.8p (he showed us the paperwork) The current SP is .........2.8p so you can see why he feels the need to warn people. I would mention that during this time the SP has reached 4.0p but once again that would be a positve statement and I am not really allowed to make it apparently. Apologies to everyone for being positive about my investment. I do admit to buying some at 2.24p so I am in real danger of earning money here but I will try to take responsibility were that to happen.
OnE Churchill to another
''We shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in Arbitration, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our assets, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills and the courts of Judicial review; we shall never surrender,
OI what is this about the beaches, Blitz told my mum we could catch colds and get bronchitis. You never told us that!!
Yes, there it is for all to see. Complete refusal to accept anyone else's OPINION. This idiot doesn't even understand that the words 'might' and 'may' indicate it is only my OPINION. Disgraceful posting and now TELLING other people what to do and not do with their own money. Reported.
''We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.''
Blitzed response
But we could get killed and you never told us about that
Spartans to leonadis their king. Oi mate this is dangerous at these gates there are 1/4m angry guys coming this way and there is only 300 of us
Leonidis... what does that matter, spartan law no retreat no surrender
AHHH but Blitzed tells us it could be dangerous, you never said nuffink about the danger and that we may lose
Well, there we have it. At least you've both exposed yourselves fully now as being completely untrustworthy to anyone reading this board:
Orientfrance: Making up any possibility to fit the desired outcome.
mikemike: Excluding any possibility EXCEPT the desired outcome.
Those paying attention to what's actually happening in the real world will recognise that the case is being decided by the ICSID.. and not these two clowns. This stock is far from a "no brainer" and their analysis isn't worth the pixels they're printed on - DON'T put any more money in based on their ramping and blind optimism.
The gravy train might well start drying up if it is seen to be ineffective. Also, a judicial review might well be regarded as PART OF the gravy train so I think they may well grab the opportunity for more work. We'll see in the next couple of weeks. GLA
mike: I hope you're right but why won't the ICSID just reject the annulment claim and go on to their next gravy chain case regardless?
''Now, again - please stop ramping and we can clear this forum out for *genuine news* on the share only, to everyone's pleasure and benefit I'm sure.''
If only, when are you going to start?
That another did not post anything like me, must mean it is you, ever stop to consider,,,,nahh of course not .
This is going to be a fantastic outcome.
Why? because ICSID will not want a judicial review that identifies even more of their arbitrators as incompetent. Which in effect demands the answer at to why ICSID as another arm of the World Bank is not fit for purpose.
ICSID cannot afford to fail, they know it and the decision is, do they fall on their swords or let the ROI deal with all the cards as they fall?
No brainer
- Why are you accusing me of wanting the last word having just asked me a question?
- Why would you deny that I've got it right when all I've said is that we don't know what will happen - unless you do?
- How does exposing your reporting of positive news only qualify as deramping?
- Why would I deramp a share I've proven to own (despite your "giveaway" assessment)?
Not that you've acknowledged already having been proven wrong on that last one, of course ;)
Now, again - please stop ramping and we can clear this forum out for *genuine news* on the share only, to everyone's pleasure and benefit I'm sure.
And exactly where are the signs of YOU seeing 'the other side of the equation'. You are very good at believing you have got it all right. Well, I believe I have got it right too. I will continue to post what I want (you are determined to label this as ramping but I will never accept that unless you admit to deramping which I very much doubt. It's all down to personal interpretation) but I am going to leave you with the last word as I am sure you feel you have the moral right to it.
Splitting hairs, OF. If you post your "observations" on a forum, you should absolutely expect reactions to them as well. That's why the link below each post says "Reply" and not "Fawn Over Because You Posted Good News".
Between yourself and MM, I thought you might be the one able to consider the other side of the equation if someone outside of our discussion were to show it to you. Now please, for everyone's benefit - stop ramping.
You are correct. He can post his obsevations but I am entitled to post mine. This started not with his observations of the CHL position but with a questioning of my observations. I've always been open with my position here. GLA
I have a large holding here and am sitting on a huge loss, but I don't see anything wrong with where blitzed is coming from. He is entitled to post his observations like anyone else and imo this board is better with reasoned debate rather than pure ramping.
The fact that our market capitalisation is peanuts reflects where we are and the market's perception of the prospects of a return eventually. But I remain invested as, as far as I can see, an injustice was done and there is a (slim) hope that the right outcome will eventually prevail.
GLA
Supposed investor OF? Bzzzt! Ouch, bad luck guys:
https://i.imgur.com/BkdgRQx.jpg
And hilariously MM, you commend me for pointing out that we have no idea which way it'll go but then only go on to just talk about a positive outcome. What you'll note is that *nowhere* have I ever said we will lose this case. Ever. And yet you both violently knee-jerk against anyone who dares to talk about anything other than a win because it's the only thing you want to believe.
Remember guys - just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean the ROI and ICSID aren't out to get you.