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…massive sells today knocking the sp flying. Anyone got any ideas as to why pls?
I bought in here at just under £1. I’ve picked a few duds in my time (EUZ, GDR and VDTK) but this one takes the biscuit.
Placing inbound.
Agree with you there VP. Look at the state Tom Winnifrith, my 93 year old Nan is in better nick than him. Notice that they are devastatingly unsuccessful in life as well:
Tom - failed at many many things including making pizzas
Vas - failed travel agent now pushes trolleys
Terminator (advfn & Twitter) - cleans toilets in Brighton
Tom’s mate Badmandan - failed bank robber
No wonder why a bit of gloating on here is the highlight of their sad, miserable failure of a life!!
SeB, Since you are referring to me in your last post. I must say you have the attitude of someone who has been handed everything on a plate. Which explains why you belittle other posters when things do not go your way - as it makes you feel just that little bit taller. If I were a trolley pusher or a toilet cleaner then what is so bad about that ? Are these people untouchables in your experience. Maybe you don't use toilets and use a pad these days but your worldly view comes over as privilege and one of insecurity.
Why not place some of the reasons why the SP is near its low again at the company's door ? I think that would be unbearable for you as it might make you face reality.
The sp is where it is now for many reasons....none of which bother or worry me....it will bounce eventually.
what is more important is the fact the usual pond algae come on here gloating at losses for investors who cannot hold until it improves. spouting their **** knows best garbage on a share not invested in.
If you have faith in a company a few brainless trolls on a bb should not worry you.....the sp may swing a few pence...but in time irrelevant when we are talking pounds.
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Well said BSF.
I was reading up on Monster Energy and Amazon last night. Wonder if people will be making the same comments about Chill in 5 years time i.e. with hindsight it was evident to see, new emerging market, first mover advantage, numerous product lines, great logo, name and domain, great board etc etc...
I, like you BSF, am happy to sit and wait to see this play out, and let all the shorters and traders try to scare others for their own short term goal. Me, its the long game that will see me sitting back in a few years.
Enjoy the weekend all.
Except they don't have first mover advantage as the market is now saturated, even the big tobacco companies will be soon joining the party, they could have done last year if the bod pulled their finger out but alas that chance has now gone.
I would be very surprised if Chill the company is still around in five years time, chances are it will be taken over by the bod or insiders after first shafting pi's, happens all the time leaving just a shell company with no assets apart from the CHLL aim listing, then it will relaunch in to something else and the whole process starts again, i.e. HNR > ZOE > CHLL > ?
Until positive news drops, this share is purely a trading share with a range bound of 10p to 20p give or take 10%, the days of £1 a share are now long gone but money can be made if you're quick enough.
Main not aim listing ;-0
Roger. Did you do any research before dipping your toe in at just under a pound?
Buying high and losing your money isn't compulsory you know...
Except they don't have first mover advantage as the market is now saturated, even the big tobacco companies will be soon joining the party, they could have done last year if the bod pulled their finger out but alas that chance has now gone.
I would be very surprised if Chill the company is still around in five years time, chances are it will be taken over by the bod or insiders after first shafting pi's, happens all the time leaving just a shell company with no assets apart from the CHLL aim listing, then it will relaunch in to something else and the whole process starts again, i.e. HNR > ZOE > CHLL > ?
Until positive news drops, this share is purely a trading share with a range bound of 10p to 20p give or take 10%, the days of £1 a share are now long gone but money can be made if you're quick enough.
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WELL WORTH FRAMING THAT, AND BRINGING OUT AGAIN IN 18MONTHS ...pmsl.
Own any? thought not so why worry your self
Vas, shows how little you know me then. Currently run my own business with a number of employees and doing rather well thank you for asking. Covid caused a few issues but rode out the initial storm and prospering.
My comments are normally in response to your usual drivel from a non share holder who comes on here gloating about other people’s losses probably to deflect your thoughts from your own miserable life.
Personally this is a small investment for me and although down a good percentage at the moment I believe this company will achieve some good returns over the next few years. The last 10 months have been awful for Chill (and many many other smaller companies) with regards IR/PR, Covid, bad decisions and lack of communication of the direction. This is what’s hit the sp. Been a shorters dream but don’t forget most of the shorters were smashed originally when told to short at 30p, 60p, 80p on the way up. Not many would have had the balls to stay in the game at £1 plus. But I digress, despite the sp fall over this last 10 months, since end of September it seems a lot of important pieces of the jigsaw have been put in place. Viridian are arranging a NON PLACING capital raise as we speak which will help fund the next drive into many thousands of stores. Mike Sandore has jumped ship from working with JUUL to Chill. His extensive connections with the likes of 7Eleven amongst many others will be a massive boost. I realise we haven’t seen the results of these labours but it’s only been 3 months since Viridian, a couple of weeks for Michael. These things take time and the sp hasn’t factored any of this in. I previously merged a business with a competitor at the time and it took a year. We had two shareholders to be concerned with, not 213m shares to worry about.
Yes the sp this low is frustrating (unless of course you’re buying - me) but Rome wasn’t built in a day as they say. I researched and invested planning on at least a three year time frame, but probably 5 years. I wasn’t expecting such a fall in sp but I’m not overly bothered by it. I’m more bothered by vermin who patrol these boards spreading lies, fear or just gloating. The sad little fickers I mentioned earlier with so little in their lives that this is how they get their kicks. They need to get out of their bedrooms and explore the outside world a bit more. Meet people and realise there is a lot more to life than joking at others expense. Love not hate!! ;)
Fred, Antha proving once again he does almost zero research before posting. Sadly in 18 months time he will be hiding from this board or viewing through a different moniker avoiding the told you so’s.
SEB. Love not Hate .....lol why don't you show it in your defensive posts then.
Trolls like you are beyond redemption!
Beat me to it CM!! You can only give people certain excuses for being a dick and you’ve exhausted yours
That’s aimed at Vas, not you CM btw! ;)
That's a classic.
CitzenPratt "Trolls like you are beyond redemption!" ....Interesting , not mentioned this one for a few weeks.
NobbySTyles: You can only give people certain excuses for being a dick and you’ve exhausted yours
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NobbyStyles: That’s aimed at Vas, not you CM btw! ;)
Its Ok Nobby, we all think Citizen Pratt is a dick, its just we are not so rude as to call him a dick on a BB.
Luckily here, we have LT holders who can add no value here ...even though they are in the magic Telegraph hole .....yet abuse everyone as the market sellers back the recent sellers shares to the same over exited buyers.
If we are luck we should get a nice rise now so we can off load the bargain shares and repeat.
Just hope the company don't go ahead and release another Crap update when they have nothing to say.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it Mark. I would have have a couple of Euro Lottery wins by now with hindsight too! Only a couple as I'm not greedy!
Trouble with you statement is Fred is clearly reacting to the trolls like Antha who come on here, add nothing but a bit of plss taking with no actual research, knowledge etc. This board is plagued by them with is why I have tried to limit my time here recently. Come on and give an informative, reasoned summation of the troubles over the last year or so (not that we shareholders don't actually know what they are) and you might get a reasoned debate. Come on here and laugh at others who have made an investment that is down or struggling and you get the reaction you deserve.
Seb below in his assassination of the troll that is Vas, has pointed out the short comings very well but also talks about the reason why he has stayed invested. We know what has not been good. We also know that there is not a share raise being planned, JS is not selling his holding, good work is going on behind the scenes - see Seb on Viridian, Mike Sandore plus Rhino etc.
So the reason Fred (apologies for speaking for you Fred) is annoyed is because there has been months and months of trolls coming on here spreading their BS. It gets draining. Other than this recent drop, this board has seemed pretty quiet if you look back. No posts at all on quite a few days. Mainly because the sp wasn't dropping so the trolls don't appear and the actual shareholders are bored having to see all this **** day in day out for months.
Vas, you don’t speak for me. I think CM is spot on to be honest! I also read his posts on here and on your hated TG and he’s a knowledgeable investor especially on Chill. His recent conversation with Callum was particularly interesting and in one post he’s put up more useful information than you have since our luck changed and you discovered this board.
".Interesting , not mentioned this one for a few weeks. " - as I said, I don't tend to come on here as much due to the troll infestation. Thank you for proving my point.
Seb, no offense taken. It was obvious who you meant with the 'dick' comment. An opinion shared by almost all on here reading the posts over the months.
CM, SEBS, Big Mad FRED and the rest who have sold up. Well what can I say Lol. You bang on about the advantages of being a member of the Telegraph Hole group and all the secret whispers , conversations that happen between members there and the BODs - but when it comes down to it - all i can see is that on practically every facet of this share, and the company and its regularly missed targets ...you have been wrong!
Now i know you value the T. hole for its happy crappy atmosphere of love for chill , and also the " often mentioned here" company input with the T. Holes members as you all sit around the camp fire at night. Has it ever occurred to you that in your naivety you may have been used / suckered in as unofficial mouth pieces for the company...You all seem to have the same approach , and have always been over sensitive to views that are different to the ones you are taught in the T. hole.
Just give one company example since its inception of anything meaningful that came out the Telegram Hole that has actually materialised as it should have done.
Take your time.
Think you're a bit too obsessed with this Telegram Group Vas. Time you moved on for your own mental health.
I'm not obsessed with he T. Hole - I was just remarking on how often positive noises comes from there to here , via your crowd ..such as Sebs post today ..... " CM is spot on to be honest! I also read his posts on here and on your hated TG and he’s a knowledgeable investor especially on Chill. His recent conversation with Callum was particularly interesting and in one post he’s put up more useful information than you have since our luck changed and you discovered this board."
My point being that none of this useful information you gather from the TG has done any of you the slightest good as far as investing in CHILL is concerned.
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I never said the said the company will be liquidated that must have been someone else.
However, if the company can manage to show me real progress and evidence of being able to build on this then i may buy for the longer term but I'm not convinced its going to be this time...we may have to wait another quarter or more and IMO this will throw up much cheaper prices than todays.
If I am wrong and next week they produce a much better update with actual growing sales then i will be forced to buy at these prices or higher . Meanwhile i trade.