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Good Luck to You too.

This is how it works apparently. Its along game.

https://traxretail.com/blog/quick-guide-shelf-space-costs/

I've read the RNSs, seen the promo videos and investor updates but sometimes is good to broaden your reading and not just re read the same.

What i posted was not even negative it just suggested that possibly Zoe are following a similar path...I have just laid out what I could find....and am criticised on a open share BB.

If Zoe can absorb the ( extra costs) allowing them to place product in 10, 000 stores plus and still make a good profit, then Zoe will be a winner....so what is their to be defensive about ? Zoe may not be paying for the shelf space, i don't know...but its obviously something that happens....no point pretending it doesn't.

There will be others out there....be interesting to see the varying experiences...

Ill start a new thread as its getting confusing.

Ok. Here is an example of another fledgling company ( different product) but similar in other ways that did a AATAC deal in December 2019. . Have a read its interesting.....
"According to Nihart, his company is paying the Asian-American Trade Associations Channel – he wouldn’t disclose the amount – to make quicker inroads with the organization’s members."

https://hempindustrydaily.com/isodiol-seeks-to-win-cbd-topical-shelf-space-with-aatacs-help/

more detail here
https://mjbizmagazine.com/digital-issues/2019-10-NovDec/84/#zoom=z

todays company status - Chart
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ISOLF/chart?p=ISOLF#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-

Now, i'm saying that this company's experience has nay relation to Zoe's future development but its a company that has gone through the same development plan. Maybe their product is crap, i don't know.

Ok. Here is an example of another fledgling company ( different product) but similar in other ways that did a AATAC deal in December 2019. . Have a read its interesting.....
"According to Nihart, his company is paying the Asian-American Trade Associations Channel – he wouldn’t disclose the amount – to make quicker inroads with the organization’s members."

https://hempindustrydaily.com/isodiol-seeks-to-win-cbd-topical-shelf-space-with-aatacs-help/

more detail here
https://mjbizmagazine.com/digital-issues/2019-10-NovDec/84/#zoom=z

todays company status - Chart
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ISOLF/chart?p=ISOLF#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-

Now, i'm saying that this company's experience has nay relation to Zoe's future development but its a company that has gone through the same development plan. Maybe their product is crap, i don't know.

Invest8
Why do you question the details of the RNS report "initial 10,000 stores committed during the 'Prepare for Lift Off' phase.", especially the point about 10,000 stores committed. That's the operative word here....Do you have anything to add around that point...as you say you worked alongside AATAC?

Did AATAC have committed shelf space in their associated outlets?

That was a good read. Thanks for that Tobler.
It can only be good for the CBD business going forward - with the public trusting the products that are on sale i.e tested and declared safe by the FSA and other new types of outlets and shops that would not normally sell CBD products having the confidence to sell, knowing they are safe. Should be a big plus as far as confidence goes. Cheers Vas

Regarding Zoetic's successful novel foods application to the UK Food Standards Agency (the "FSA"), which had a deadline of on 31 March 2021.

Does anyone know of any competitor's / 0r other CBD products that failed to meet this regulatory hurdle, causing their products to be withdrawn from the market. I seem to recall that this would be an opportunistic time for Zoe to step in with new products that met the compliance, therefore opening up new markets for Zoe.

Just wondered if anyone has any details on any CBD products having to be withdrawn, even if at present they can not be replaced by Zoetic.

Tecbadger. Just go onto one of the Indian news channels....get your relative to watch the footage....especially ( typical India) as they seem to have no bars hold on access to the covid wards and the absolute desperation of the doctors, nurses and especially people waiting on oxygen and literally dying in front of your eyes, one out - one literally in, no bed gets cold.

truly horrifying ...front line stuff that most never see until its to late.

and upwards to £3, £4 , then £5 and then upwards........im just trying to be realistic, where as you are just an all out ramper at all costs......more like a binary bet gambler.

Thanks Bobby.

IMO. I don't think its a matter of how any of us feel about this share. The company will succeed or not on its own merits, and how it conducts its business, regardless of how anyone feels here.. The share price will not always reflect the promise also, but up until now i get why the LT holders have absolute faith and believe in the company as its been a brilliant investment.

Now we are just beginning a new stage , a period of growth, all about sales, revenues, outlets etc. Therefore, between now and when the full figures are published that reflect the financial progress in full.....will be a long period of waiting, and so some will hang on in faith, and others ( newbies mainly), will come sniffing around with no inherent faith until the numbers show up.

The company will need hundreds of newbys to sign up, just so that the LTs you have someone to sell to when you make your money.

Today, on the GPP board today there are people there saying its their best investment in 30/ 40 years....what they mean is it has the potential to be, its down to 20p at present.
So don't be surprised if not everyone has the faith of all the LTs , even after reading the presentations / RNS etc.... .

I hope you do well, if you do well i do well.

Sorry Bobby . My apologies.

Thanks Booby. Nice to get a balanced reply. I do agree with you about word of mouth,just todays version of word of mouth is via social media. The link to Fever tree was just to demonstrate that they started in a similar way, a hotel bar, exactly the same as Zoe . There big break came as far as i can remember was when Waitrose came to them, and asked if they could stock their product ( sort of unheard of). Similar events could / are unfolding here....a couple of major UK high street chains, will bring the product and the engaged customer much closer together over night and will make all the difference GL Vas.

I hope they put out something out to promote the Chill Smokes brand similar and better ( but shorter) than this - the first ever Fever Tree launch party in Singapore in 2012.

Interesting that even this promotional video of F ever Trees first launch party only gets 900 odd views nearly ten years later, with no likes!

Maybe as its promoting a product that you smoke - then its not allowed. Which opens up the question of how far in any promotional / advertising material can company's go, in advertising their CBD smokes other than showing product in pictures.
saying that there are reviews on YOU tube of people smoking and reviewing other brands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5KqvbGEQRc&ab_channel=SamWong

Thanks Gallini

Exiting times. There should be some good social media coverage of the brand very soon. Gallini you seem to know about the influencers present at the event, last night. Can you name a few here so we can keep an eye on their media output? They will not mind publicity as that's what they are all about, so to get a following? Thanks in advance. Vas

You were lucky the whole pack weren't awake...there are more of them, they've either filtered themselves so they don't have to deal with real life.

Craigy, As just mentioned to BB. I think the Chill Smoke will generate some solid feedback on user experience of product in UK plus I see some competition for menthol smokes in UK - so we should get so comparable reviews also. These will have to be favourable as investors will have little else to go on.

That's amazingly small number of shares in issue. I wonder how they managed that. I guess they never really needed to raise capital as product took off so quickly........

Yes, I won't be convinced until they start announcing average sales per outlet...Between now and then its a confidence play really, they have to maintain confidence and this will be easy if they are doing well, but what worries me is if things are not going to plan, they will continue handing out confident noises, while they try and go about fixing the problem....until a day when it all comes out in the wash along with disappointing revenues etc.
This of course may not happen, but is the likely scenario if things do not go to plan.

I want to see some proper independent reviews of the product. I hope we get some regarding the Chill Smoke .

Once the Chill Smoke is being sold in UK then I am sure customer feedback on the product will follow.
I trust the independent reviews on YouTube more than ones put out by the company.

Ill have to try the Telegram group. I imagine their has to be more members, and views.