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When I realised how much the CEO earned I was not surprised the workers were angry. Come on BT board do you have to rub the workers nose in it. Get around the table and first item is an apology for the total greed.
Just shows though doesn't it. How useless Prospect are, mangers got awarded 2.5-3% pay rise and were told to accept it or get nothing, Prospect didn't bat an eyelid or fight.
OR and call centres team member grades get offered 5% which I agree is not enough, but at least they have the power to do something about it. No wonder so many are leaving Prospect, all talk but do F all
you bring up a good point and this is the problem that the pay freezes have caused as per the statement on April 28th by Prospect, as per usual they are bending over and just taking it.
'BT is attempting to impose a pay award for managers in BT that is significantly below inflation, on the back of a two-year pay freeze in 2020 and 2021'.
We also have to remember that this isn't just managers that are affected by this as a lot of engineers are also lumped in with these.
BT's mistake was going in too high at 8%, they should have offered 4%, then increased it to 8% and everyone would have been happy.
Will this go below £1.80?
@NigeCo, even if inflation drops to 2% then employees will still need another 2% next year on top of the 11% they need this year to maintain their standard of living. Unless inflation goes negative I don't think BT employees will need to worry about being asked to take a pay cut.
The unions really do need to keep an eye on customer numbers. I for one will now re-asses my broadband and mobile package with BT. I refuse point blank to fund unions and their greed through higher charges.. The whole country is suffering not just BT employees. There are now cheaper suppliers of broadband and mobile services. No customers , no job.
I have to agree about Prospect the last I saw from them was 28th April
“BT has said individual awards are ‘discretionary’ so not all members are guaranteed a pay rise. With the award worth 3-4% at a time that CPI inflation is 7% and due to rise, we cannot recommend this pay award to our members in BT.”
Then silence, as has been mentioned this is after a 2 year pay freeze for any engineer classed as a Manager (internal IT Staff)
Berty you forget that all other isp s apart from virgin are BT customers. Even virgin use BT for parts of their network so no matter who you move to you will still be a BT customer directly or indirectly.
P03C, And that is why OFCOM are trying to separate BT and Openreach.
Plusnet £33 for 18 months, £53 there after. Sure beats the hell out of BT at £81 for same service.
the reason I have stayed with BT is because they have opened/ returned call centres to the UK. The very centres now voting to strike.
lol guess who owns Plusnet
I have to agree about Prospect the last I saw from them was 28th April
Yup, absolute waste of time, and they wonder why no one really wants to join. They just roll over, year after year. Not enough power, even if they balloted, they have like 300 members from BT, and whats going to happen if 300 managers go on strike for 1-2 days? My guess, nothing major.
"Plusnet £33 for 18 months, £53 there after. Sure beats the hell out of BT at £81 for same service."
You do realise that BT own Plusnet...
Bertie, I have Halo, BT Sport and Sky all for less than £81, granted I have to give all the 18 month call to maintain best price, so not sure how the £81 monthly price stacks up, especially against Plusnet where you say it’s priced at £33 and on the website costs £24.99 for unlimited fibre extra, the priciest service of the 3 services.
"Just shows though doesn't it. How useless Prospect are, mangers got awarded 2.5-3% pay rise and were told to accept it or get nothing, Prospect didn't bat an eyelid or fight.
OR and call centres team member grades get offered 5% which I agree is not enough, but at least they have the power to do something about it. No wonder so many are leaving Prospect, all talk but do F all"
5% of £22k is less than 3% of £45k.
As a BT employee "manager/professional" grade myself, I don't need the same % increase as the Team Members. Also don't forget that the manager/professional grade typically get a 10% OTB as well on top.
'5% of £22k is less than 3% of £45k'
If you have team members that are on 22k then surely it would be the set £1500 they were getting, so they would be getting 6.8% unless they were also classed as managers. There are a lot of people within BT that aren't managers but are classed as managers and aren't on great wages but are then screwed over by the us and them approach being used by BT.
As a BT employee "manager/professional" grade myself, I don't need the same % increase as the Team Members. Also don't forget that the manager/professional grade typically get a 10% OTB as well on top.
You mean. other than the fact PJ banked over 3mil in bonuses and shares, of which none of the non executive levels got this year (yourshare). So bad payrise across the board. Bonuses were sub-par and no share plans this year, yet PJ gets over 3mil? Thats fair right, no wonder morale is an all time low.
those call centres better watch out...Artificial Intelligence is gonna replace you, the more expensive and fussy you get ... AI doesn't get flu or COVID either !
"So bad payrise across the board. Bonuses were sub-par and no share plans this year, yet PJ gets over 3mil? Thats fair right, no wonder morale is an all time low."
Not sure what part of BT you work in, unless Global, but the BT scorecard for bonus was 100%. Most people I know got their OTB (some more, and some less based on their personal performance).
So given the current climate, and the fact that not all employers are giving payrises (my wife hasn't had one) - the 4% (for a career level E) and 10% OTB is not to be sniffed at.
Would I like a 10% inflation matching payrise - hell yeah, but we need to be realistic.
Larry,
My BT package is thus- broadband, landline with calls package, and two mobiles 30GB each. £81
plusnet only difference is 25GB / per mobile. Quoted 18 months at £33 rising to £53 at end of contract.
“ those call centres better watch out...Artificial Intelligence is gonna replace you, the more expensive and fussy you get ... AI doesn't get flu or COVID either ! “
There was a program on TV last night, 5 I think, AI is not all it seems to be, it’s easy to confuse so it puts you through to a REAL person quicker. AI is used on online chat and phone to assist in call directing and in the end sends around 90% of contact to a real person to resolve the issue.
How is AI going to help ? with nobody to take the call. It’s just a filter and buffer to eventually pass on to a real person…
NDNIC00,
hi, yes ..safe for now ... but ...AI is developing at a rapid rate .... in 3-5 years it will be a different ball game I suspect ...in fact BT are crying out for AI developers and want the Government to create more training courses
I saw they have cameras now with AI inside that can film a sports event. The AI can track the players etc with no camera operator, no director, no Outside Broadcast Van...and they then send the images directly to the Cloud for editing....the AI automatically pics out the best bits
*picks out
This will be a good test for bt to see exactly what staff they need and how many they can do without