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Cane:

First off none of us know what will happen to the SP.

As for buying using TA, its not as easy as it sounds.

When a SP is (in this case falling) TA will identify an historical low that convinced buyers to come in.

If it hits that price point, you could just buy on that alone, and it might well go up from there and you have got in at the very lowest point (very gratifying). But there is nothing to say it won't just continue falling...(less gratifying)

So you can wait for various indicators (which are just algorithms of the SP action) to confirm a reversal, which increase the odds of being correct. however Invariably the SP will have had to rise from the low to give this better odds bet.

There was a spike down to 157p and we have bounced off that so maybe a low has at last been reached.

Time will tell however an equal part of TA is money management and if you don't set a stop loss when you take the bet then you are not really using TA as a system. (imo, dyor)

Ok, I'll gladly stop.

Do you think all the "positive" posts about our almost invisible, world beating, most accurate test will stop as well?

Me neither.

Paul, I don't day trade. Ok? (I am pretty sure I have mentioned this before.)

And which "snap shot" in time should I use?

10 years ago it was 87p so 25% increase over 10 years... or 5 years ago when it was 80p.... oops, 5 years of holding for it to go down 15%) 3 years ago 22p... (well done for buying then although it was not until AS said he could get a covid test out did the SP recover..

So perhaps not quite the LTB&H success you think? but by all means deflect away...

And again Tim, no answer, or attempt to figure why the best test in the world is not selling with home use approval anywhere in the world and at best, very limited business sales.

Rather than everyone tying themselves in knots to find every bit of news that says testing is needed, or who new has joined some weak, affiliated company, and then joining those dots to says "it must be us!"

How about putting those braincells to work to figure out why it isn't us!

No Tyche I don't know the bloody answers! Thats why i keep asking!

But see what you did? Don't address the question but try and discredit the poster as having ulterior motives. If this is what you think passes for rational, objective thinking then you are somewhat mistaken.

But it is simply a topic that nobody wants to kick around. Ever.

(presumably because its "negative")

6 months of EU business sales and some here are not even convinced we have even sold out of the first batch?

WHY?

Ok, AVCT have the best LFT in the world, Ta daa!! but seeing as its not selling in the UK or has HUA anywhere in the world, its pretty irrelevant.

Which then, all though none of you ever, ever address this fact, is why isn't it selling?

Still lets all be supa positive and that should speed things up. (Or more likely reassure those that simply can't acknowledge whats been in front of them for at least the last 6 months.)

Why did AS big it up, with all the talk of manufacturers lined up, talking to airlines, APAC etc etc? Lets assume he was not lying. What happened to stop it in is tracks?

Its not as though the virus has gone away.

Its not lies Doggy, I am just saying with all the fuss about Omicrom, and the fact that AVCt have had 6 months of selling to business, they can't seem to get a foothold.

What does that tell you objectively?

Why did you buy the AVCT test?

Was it because you were a shareholder or you read about it independently or were recommended to it by someone else?

In your opinion, does every thing hand now on HUA?

I ask because if it does, does that not mean by implication that BU is almost non existent?

Tim,
Do you really believe AVCT are selling their test to business then?
Honestly?

One: its not technically available in the UK and Two: a million a month would be material income for AVCT and yet we have heard nothing.

It could all change overnight, but it gets harder every day to suppose it will.

Are we saying the rig needed repair/replacement parts and this is the cause of the hold up?

I have to say reading this "debate" at least clarifies and confirms the thought process (or lack of it) that many "respected" posters seem to have.

I think we could all be a bit less dogmatic about this:

Our opinions are based on what has been reported and what we have read. And as we all know "don't believe everything you read."

This is so new ( 2 years or less) that the dust has not settled yet on to what will turn out to have been the best course of action yet and might not do for at least a year or two or three from now.

I love the assumption that it will be traders that cause a fall. Its never any other reason. Only goes up because serious investors know what they are doing...

Yer killing' me

And just one other thing to the suitably relaxed crew about timelines in the industry being always elastic apparently,,,

Did anyone here post 6 weeks ago that forget what we have been told, but Mid December is more likely for spud?

(I don't remember reading any).

Just sayin'......

Do you believe you are typical Donkey?

Or is everybody else lying?

It depends on what you mean when you say "we can't live with Covid.." Bella.

Clearly WE ARE living with covid as is the rest of the world.

(The conceit of people who think we can control this natural event, whatever its origins). This is not the first virus to come on this earth that affects humans, and yet here we still are.

There is a lot more wrong with the NHS than covid

5% of hospital beds currently are down to covid compared to 31% at its peak, 111 calls should be answered in 20 seconds but it can be 20 mins in some parts of the country. Ambualnce times are longer now than last year in the height of hospitalisations.

More doctors had face to face appointments then than now.

So in desperation many swamp A&E making some waiting times 12 hours.

So I hope you are not obese or smoke, or hurt yourself in your exercise regime or take any drugs, drink or get drunk.

Don't slip on ice and break a limb for being so reckless as to go out in those conditions. And please never be the cause of a traffic accident.

I hope you don't catch a cold and then go into work and spreading that in case somebody else catches it and passes it on to a vulnerable person. Because you had better not ask for treatment (Oh and there is little evidence that mask wearing helps, unless its the right mask/material, worn in the correct manner and changed frequently.

And then guess what... you are still going to get it.

I don't know if you have realised it yet... But none of us getting out of here.

You guys really should not either invest on the basis that you do, or not read these types of BB's.

Don't , don't get involved in personalities, (easy though it is),

What was the SP 12 months ago, what were the expectations (and yours) then?

Has it it turned out as you expected? If not look at what formed your expectation. (don't shy away from being influenced by BB's.)

This is a small(ish), high risk bio pharma, that was hyped to be NOT high risk.

Don't look to blame me or ND or a MM or anyone else. Consider why you bought in the first place.

Those that bought on the AVA6000 trial can legitimately say it was always going to be a long haul.
Those who bought primarially for the LFT, well, their hopes have been dashed up to now. Maybe it will still come good , we will see.

But don't blame me or anyone else. This is the nature of the game.

The irony is, the only 2 who post about the short comings that have thus far proved to be correct in their analysis are villified.
Think about that too.

Me and ND are terrible people who have all sorts of agenda's and are only posting to lose you money... are the only 2 who have identified potential shortcomings,

You think I am weird. What do you think I think of you?

Merry Christmas

I have a feeling Joe, when they right the story that it wasn't all HMG's fault....

I completely agree Jo, but here's the rub:

We could (and did) express EXACTLY the same sentiment on it "being us" so many, many times over the last 12 months or so for the LFT that unfortunately, we are still where we are and why the market will wait for independent verification. (And remember that was with the backing of AS's wildly (as it turned out), misleading statements.

Fingers crossed we get an update this month but I have stopped expecting anything to be on time.

It will be, what it will be, when its wants to be.

I'm not sure what MM is so surprised at the market for, as he has helped in the over hyping of the stock.

"Imminently" : Its been weeks, that's not imminent. There are 2 sources of reliable info : Official RNS from AVCT or a statement from Medusa. nothing apart from an ambiguous statement in the ABDX RNS about a sizeable order waiting to go?

After all this time there is IN FACT, no timeline at all as to when a test will be available for home use or when the test will ever be re-instated for BU (I wonder if HUA is dependent on that?)

We have been reduced to deciding, if in the 6 months since business test approval for the UK and the whole of the EU was granted, has resulted in not even selling out of just 1 batch of production. And not even knowing how much 1 batch is!

This is beyond shoddy.

There must be a reason for this silence, and I am sure there is, but can anyone think of a positive one?

And while we are all (I think with good reason) still excited about AVA600k, this **** up puts the whole business in a poor light of delivering on promises.

We have lived and breathed this over the last 18 months and for many, much longer, but we are the only ones. The rest of the market is clearly in " I will believe it when I see it" mode (on all the "strings to the bow", which is basically one by the way, because good luck to us all if AVA600k does fail for the credibility of what would be left).. And really hand on heart, who at this stage, can blame them?

"but it's getting tiring waiting.."

I'm glad I'm not the only one... Its driving me INSANE!

D, I'm not sure G4M is the best example to hold up.......