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That's not going to happen here when you issue 1.3billion shares is it?

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Worth a listen if you haven't already heard this one. John Story see's $1bn in profits within 3-5 years with ZOE. He's not going to be selling, he is hodling.

88,000 stores over the next few years. This is the share to buy now and retire well with. GLA

Was always going to re rate. Nice return today after waiting for months. GLA

Hi chaps, Also a holder in STX as it went into values I like, how i saw it with them, was the potential debt or dilution needed to get the product to market has held the SP back. That came with raises which is why they have £30m in cash after a 4m and 25m raise. Another massive reason for the SP performance was the lack of partnering in the USA which highlighted the business actually needed working capital to carry on and was going to have to make deals themselves. That puts it at risk of takeover if you ask me with the SP so low but now with the capital raised, hopefully they can go it alone and get the sales successfully. They have stated they have working capital till end of 2021 so its fairly high risk. Massively a great entrance now though if all comes good.

With TEK and Bellascura, the IPO will raise the capital needed. I just hope TEK sell a big batch on listing and pay a special divi.
I think £20m is bit low and £80 to high. £50M or so I could see. It's a massive market and the product does have some selling points over whats available now.

Couldn't agree more, I do hope they have seen the dissatisfaction from their LTH. Some newbies would have been paying over 20p on the day of FDA news. Thats quite a hit and it wasn't needed to be so low. I sold a few then as it was an obvious spike with placing still needed, but in hindsight would have sold the lot and bought back twice as many. Just far to low at 10p but its done, I've bought more down here and now await. I have no doubt 2021 will be a great year here, especially from these levels to anyone entering now. GLA

I'm not sure if I am putting 2+2 together and making 5 but going over the announcements RNS's etc. I'm now thinking our first funding news, may well be our captive bank. I mean think about it, If you were planning this and then the captive bank option comes along, It is worth delaying and dropping old plans for the plans to be built around the captive Bank which we were told is end of Q1 2021. I have a feeling the March update may well be very good for SYME. Almost 6 months delayed to kick off but worth the wait? Intrigued as to how this first coupon will go live and how much inventory it will cover.

Key point being "institutional" not private investors. This is your offer chance, the sale in the sp.

Hi TC, Bit painfully low but I've bought more as I will always take a sale op in ones a believe in. Doing similar calcs this morning.

130m x 11p = £14.3m market cap.
30% of £50m = £15m worth Investment in Bellascura.

Everything else coming for free this morning. Florida control centre open this year for Guident?

We knew it was coming, painfully too low but all holders knew what was going to happen. I've been planning to load my position up for it. Todays the day for me, super sale. Kick in the balls at the same time but I actually like it when the SP drops to near placing price so at least you can join in.

I'll put my hand up, I would have guessed higher. 10p placing hurt us all. No need for it to be that low in my mind. Easily could have raised at 14p. Always been a long term hold for me as the potential is staggering compared to market cap but thats a bit of a kick in the balls for PI. We knew it was coming but the same price as last year? When the SP has been way above those levels for a long time. Hard to swallow but I've still bought more this morning. If the II's get a sale then atleast we get the chance on the the SP drop even if its painful.

Any new idea or tweak to a concept is always very high risk. If i was over 50 I wouldn't look at it, for a small percentage of a portfolio, its worth a risk. I would say any share is also high risk, there is plenty of zombies in the big indexes and accounts can hide many things. If you want low risk, stick to a normal ISA.

You can't deny the FCA talks are encouraging. The SYME Journey is an interesting one. If you got in just after RTO, The 1p paid looks a long distant memory and you were 95% down and are 50% down currently.. If however, you got in after the July updated which laid out the plans and potential, you're sitting on a 1000% gain. Not so foolish. Certainly not parted with their money. Out of interest, How do you think this would go, It's always going to be a risk until proven in accounts. Any new business is high risk and all speculation till proven. There should be no doubting if SYME pull this off, it will be huge. Plenty of hurdles the most of which have been tackled, just a few more before the finish line.

Silly low market cap and share count = explosive growth. Been waiting for some action here for a while. Love a low market cap.

Venom Chalker.. like a lot on here spit.

KJ, I bought PREM when it was 0.05p and under £5m market cap (not that long ago) I bought SYME when it was 0.05p and £20m market cap after a fall from 1p. If you want the real quick bags, you need to find them early and buy at the right time.

Also if you read the calculations you can see the wide fluctuation in sp as depending on PE.

Best case was after all world wide business came in after a few years. 11p-45p

I might of been original but I wasn't ramper without facts to back it up. The reason people think I de ramp now is because the facts have changed and therefore so have I. However, I am still very interested and bullish on the idea of blockchain run supply chains. I've just adjusted risk with the risk I saw increasing by delays.

My later figures were then used in the "research doc". So SYME shareholders have seemed to like them.

The figures being quoted on here are not realistic and people should know who to work out value. Education is good.

I always try and show "how" in my posts. If you think I am de ramping and have the power of Elon to move markets. I don't know what to think..

@Future, here is my very first calculations. There was never £1 claims from me, bare in mind these were all with the thoughts of Storm Harbour last sept.

Senario 1 Current business

96 companies at £1.3bn average of 13.4m
272 companies at £13.4m
£4,922m in inventory
6% of inventory which is £296m in revenue (4% for coupon)
1% of inventory which is £49.2m in profit
32,755m share in issue
Earning per share £0.0015
50% of EPS paid for Dividend £0.00075 per share
Forward dividend yield of 10% @0.75p share price
@0.75p On those numbers forward PE of
10 = 1.5p share price
20 = 3p share price
40 = 6p share price

Senario 2 Current and pilot business estimate

96 companies at £1.3bn
272 companies at £40m average in inventory £10.88bn (was the reported average for self funding model)
£1 Billion in inventory from Abu Dhabi pilot
£500m in inventory from UK pilot
£12,380m in inventory
8% of inventory which is £999.4m in revenue 4% for coupon)
1% of inventory which is £123.8m profit
32,755m share in issue
Earnings per share of £0.003779
50% of EPS paid for Dividend £0.001889 per share
Forward dividend yield of 20-25% @0.7p share price
On those numbers forward PE of
10 = 3.7p share price
20 = 7.4p share price
40 = 14.8p share price

Scenario 3 - 4 hubs into 2021 conservative

96 companies at £1.3bn
272 companies at £40m average in inventory £10.88bn (was the reported average for self funding model)
£10 Billion in inventory from Abu Dhabi pilot (Same as Europe so far)
£5bn in inventory from UK pilot (Multi billion companies approach SYME according to interview.
£10bn in inventory from USA (US deal in talks)
£37,180m in inventory
£2,230m in revenue @6% 4% for coupon)
£371.8m in profit @1%
Earnings per share of £0.01135
50% of EPS paid for dividend £0.005675 per share
Forward Dividend yield of over 100% at todays price.
On these numbers forward PE of
10 = 11.35p
20 = 22.7p
40 = 45p

One key thing i think some less experienced are missing is shares in issues.

The value of a company should be viewed not as the share price but as the market cap which is all the shares in issue combined.

SYME has rounded to whole numbers for simplicity 32,750,000,000 share in issue.

When looking for a share you want to increase in value quickly, The market cap and shares in issue are a major factor as to how quickly that will happen. There is company's out there with just a few hundred million shares in issue and low share prices. This is when you see huge re rates and transformational share price increase. Take ARB and ZOE last year from pennies to pounds. This would never have happened to the same level of sp increase if those companies had billions of shares in issue. The share price rise is capped by the amount of shares. Dilution is your enemy unless its small and it comes with lots of future growth.

You have to look how company shares are structured.

A company with 100m shares and a market cap of £1m can go from 1p to £1 (£1m to £100m market cap) if the business they operate starts to generate large profits.

The same company if already valued at £10m and with 1,000,000,000 shares in issue. Could go from 1p to 10p on the new large profits being generated.

SYME's share price rise will always be dampened by the amount of share in issues. A rise from .05p to 1p is £163m added to the market cap. So to double your money the company needs to find £163m added value to convince the market.

Now lets take a company like Mediazest. Share price is 0.008p Market cap of just over £1m with 32x less shares in issue than SYME. (this is not a plug its an example). All you need to move from 0.008p to 0.016p is £1m added to the market cap. So to double your money all the company needs to find is £1m of value added to convince the market.

Now SYME is recording seriously high growth numbers in clients so the market is already valuing SYME with a lot of future potential. Once confirmation of funders and securities issued comes, SYME will fly, but It may take a little longer than some here are expecting. Each 1p is £327,500,000 in market cap.

I hope this helps some on there journey.

Blockchain = All transactions visible and stored. Solves a lot of these problems of the past.