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Fleccy

“you have to be greedy when others are fearful remember.”

More importantly you also have to know when to be greedy.
And it has to be the right share too - preferably one which rises.

Toff

Velo

‘Proof positive he doesn't read my posts,’

I’ve tried to - honestly I have

But after the first sentence I can feel myself dying of boredom.

Hi-ho

“only good for shortsellers “

Have you ever tried shorting stocks?
It’s far harder and usually more dangerous than going long. But judging by your posts it’s beyond you.

You should try it sometime. It’s an equal opportunities market - there’s nothing to stop you.

And if you did you’d discover it wasn’t the easy money you thought it was.

Toff

Velo

But now a team of Chinese scientists say they’ve improved and targeted its use — and, in a startling move, have also filed for a patent.."

Is this coronavirus diatribe a smokescreen because BT has completely missed out on today’s massive rally?

Because that’s what it looks like to me.
Fortunately I’m not all in like you (one small position)

I’m diversified so I’m benefiting from the rally.

There’s only one thing worse that losing
And that’s losing - while watching everyone else win.

Anyone who goes all in on one stock has an intelligence deficit.

Enjoy the rally:)

Toff

Dofe
Remember, the US is primarily a domestic market with its foreign earnings in dollars.

Yeah right.

Facebook
Apple
Amazon
Microsoft

Four of the biggest companies on the planet

Are primarily domestic companies.
Hahahahahahahahaha

What an ignoramus you are.

Toff

Lamtree

“I dont worry about the past and just concentrate on the present,”

But if you’re a TA trader, all data is collected on past performance (shareprice action) and used to predict future price movement.

You are a TA trader right?

Toff

Heally

This is the information I’ve getting back from my contacts.

Market makers have already colluded to set bank shareprices. They are as follows...

Barclays 125
RBs. 150
Lloyds. 43
HSBC. 460

Now, I don’t want to keep repeating these numbers but in my opinion they are absolutely imminent. And they will hit well before the end of this month. So judge me when it happens (or doesn’t happen)

Toff

Heally

“Are your investments just trades that went wrong or do you believe that investing stands a better chance of success?”

I think everyone’s trades/investments go wrong in an index that is lower now than 21 years ago. The thing with stock markets; to make money you have to rely on them to rise. If the Dow has performed at the same level as the ftse since 1999 It would be about 8600 points now. Instead of 26,000.

So, my view now, since things have changed dramatically over the last few years, is to pick stocks up dirt cheap for dividend income, and hopefully break even when you sell (plus the dividends of course) which isn’t even when historical valuations are at an all time low, and still plunging.

I’m sure you’re aware of the ftse perennial underperformance and what a catastrophic investment it has been for the past two decades. And if anything it’s getting worse, good companies are marked down for chump change by the monkeys in the city.

We’ve had a lot of financial scandals over the past few years and market maker collusion and manipulation will be the next one to break. itll be on Panorama sooner or later...

Toff

Bristol

« RBS divi also reduced. »

Maybe but it’s still a good payout for those buying in now. The government will coin £600 million dividend from their investment.

Toff

Ironically banks are going to bear the brunt of the losses from the coronavirus fallout even though they’re not the most exposed. My contacts in the city have told me market makers have already colluded to set shareprices. They are as follows

Barclays 125
RBs. 150
Lloyds. 43
HSBC. 460

Toff

Gary

“And how do you know that Toff??”

My contacts:

Market makers collude with one another and set prices well in advance. I’ll be buying in at 150p or less for sure, but not until.

Word of advice. Always buy after shares go ex dividend in the UK. Because the market makers price the dividend in 2-3 times.

Toff

Heally

“They have also forecasted 37p for Lloyds over the same time frame”

I worked in a trading office for 14 years, surrounded by loutish coke-snorters. When they issue ridiculous targets like that they’re playing mind games.

37p would value Lloyds at less than what it was worth before it swallowed the Halifax.

They wouldn’t dare talk crap like that in any other country but with the worst performing stock market in global history they can get away with it in the uk.

Be a great buying opportunity if Lloyds do fall to pennies though. Probably won’t go up again for years, until the uk changes the institutions that values stocks, but the dividends will be phenomenal.

Toff

I have it on good authority that the market makers intend to price RBS after it goes ex dividend. So if you’re looking to buy, wait until the MMs have smashed it down post-dividend.

A lot more shares for your money.

Toff

“The MMs walk Lloyds up all day, then smash it down in the last half hour of trade.”

Sorry. That should have been BT not Lloyds
I got mixed up:)

See this pattern over and over again since the election. The MMs walk Lloyds up all day, then smash it down in the last half hour of trade. Year low is 135. I expect it to go lower than that before the weeks done. I expect the MMs play it that way to give their valuation a semblance of reality.

Same again today; only the miners and the usual heavyweights rise, while most shares hit new multi year lows.

Which begs the question

How low will they go when we get another bad day...

Short of blowing your brains out I can’t think of anything worse than buying uk stocks.

Toff

“Bu the way Toff, you are not restricted to FTSE.”

Problem with that are currency exchange volatility and tax laws.

If we’d joined the euro like we should have done it’d been easier as it’d be same currency

Do the proles know the £ has cost them tens of billions of pounds in Rio off forex exchange fees and other hefty charges. I don’t suppose it occurred to them when reading Rupert Murdoch’s tabloids.

Toff

Bobett

“Anyone early in Boohoo would have made a killing. Ocado has made people rich too.”

Yeah. All hindsight trades unfortunately. As worthless as yesterday’s racing results

I was talking about the wider market, not the tiny handful of winners.

Dozens of ftse shares trade lower than they were 21 years ago and many are at multi year lows. Thing to remember is that most investors are fully invested when markets crash.

BT fits that bill.

Toff

Start off with fifteen million...

The world’s worst performing market is an engine of wealth destruction. Anyone long over the years must have lost. Simple as that. Just think how rich you’d be if you’d avoided uk stocks

Or better still. Invested it in any other global stock market instead.

Toff

Start off with fifteen million....

The world’s worst performing market is an engine of wealth destruction. Anyone long over the years must have lost. Simple as that. Just think how rich you’d be if you’d avoided uk stocks

Or better still. Invested it in any other global stock market instead.

Toff

Bobetts

“You've changed your tune a bit Toff. I mentioned getting in at £1.20 a month or so ago and you thought that was preposterous. “

There’re clues in the shareprice. And those clues would point to there being a worm in the Apple. I didn’t think it would fall to these levels but now it has I can easily see £1 - by the beginning of May.
I envy you because you’re not in BT. If you’ve been in an Uber-dog share that falls precipitously day in and day out, you’ll know what I mean. It’s no fun watching your capital endlessly eroding.

A couple of posters have been recommending people jump in BT for months now, but you have to wonder at their motive. You can’t believe anything you read on these boards, for all we know they might have got in at a fiver and just want others to share their misery. And as for believing those who claim to be buying tens of thousands of pounds worth of shares every five minutes Well that’s complete fabrication, and anyone who believes that is fair game to fake bitcoin scammers.

I’m in BT - yes - but I didn’t buy in when it was in a death spiral. And I wouldn’t recommend anyone buying in while it is. Just consider yourself lucky...

Until you do buy in.

Toff