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Rooster

Velo has made this board the most boring place on earth with his endless stream of meaningless nonsense.

Mountains of the stuff
Pouring out every few minutes
An encyclopedia of unmitigated trash.

Even the coronavirus backs away.

I can handle the boredom as long as there’s some substance. But no - not a modicum - a rewrite of the shareprice action peppered with ineffectual platitudes and mind numbing cliches.

Obviously he’s found a fan in you
But many filter him out for being the world’s biggest bore.

Toff

BT would be 135 now

Toff

Velo

“129 just so happens to be the second support of the day under pivot point calcs. So closing the day below 129 would be unbearably - unbearably, beyond endurance! “
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That’s the phrase I was looking for.

I find your posts unbearably - unbearably - unbearably- beyond endurance!

Yawn!!!

Don’t you ever bore yourself?
Or just everyone else.

Toff

“I predict the Dow will drop 2000 points in a day soon. Capitulation always happens when the bulls become exhausted; and that time is approaching. “

A exert from one of yesterday’s posts

A tipping point into capitulation occurs in all bear markets. Unlike the financial crisis the effects of the virus are more transparent and much easier to see. And therefore fear will be priced into the market much more rapidly. Today could well see capitulation happen.

Toff

“I predict the Dow will drop 2000 points in a day soon. Capitulation always happens when the bulls become exhausted; and that time is approaching. “

A exert from one of yesterday’s posts

A tipping point into capitulation occurs in all bear markets. Unlike the financial crisis the effects of the virus are more transparent and much easier to see. And therefore fear will be priced into the market much more rapidly. Today could well see capitulation happen.

Toff

Rooster

“As usual enjoyed your posts Velo ! I”

You should try reading a telephone directory..,

If you enjoy Velo’s posts you’d love that!

Toff

£13.2 billion market capital value now. Virtually what they paid for EE.

Interesting how Tory investors were worried about nationalization, when it would have been far more beneficial to shareholders.

Only part of BT would have been nationalized; and there are laws in place to prevent governments lowballing shareholders. Not so with market makers they can pick any number; they saw the election victory as a green light to smash BT’s shareprice.

The EE part of the business would have remained in private hands; as would other parts of the business.
A fair price would have been paid by the government for openreach.

And I can tell you the sum of those parts would have been substantially more than 134p

In fact the leftovers from nationalization would have been more than 134p

Unregulated capitalism enriches the few at the expense of the masses. BT being a case in point.

Toff

I’m reposting this message again because Velo came along with a dump truck and buried it underneath a mountain of garbage.

Valuations in the Dow, even after recent falls, are still way too high - but for how much longer?

Dow is down over one thousand points to 26,000 today, but the bulls aren’t giving up.

I predict the Dow will drop 2000 points in a day soon. Capitulation always happens when the bulls become exhausted; and that time is approaching.
As Rooster said in an excellent post - the market looks for reasons to correct when valuations get too high

And by god, they’ve found it in the coronavirus.
Now all we have to wait for is capitulation.

Dow to bottom out at 22500 is my guess.
Ftse will follow of course 5800?

Toff

Valuations in the Dow, even after recent falls, are still way too high - but for how much longer?

Dow is down over one thousand points to 26,000 today, but the bulls aren’t giving up.

I predict the Dow will drop 2000 points in a day soon. Capitulation always happens when the bulls become exhausted; and that time is approaching.
The market looks for reasons to correct when valuations are too high

And they’ve found it in the coronavirus.
Now all we have to wait for is capitulation.

Dow to bottom out at 22500: is my guess.
Ftse will follow of course: 5800?

Toff

Valuations in the Dow, even after recent falls, are still way too high - but for how much longer?

Dow is down over one thousand points to 26,000 today, but the bulls aren’t giving up.

I predict the Dow will drop 2000 points in a day soon. Capitulation always happens when the bulls become exhausted; and that time is approaching.
As Rooster said in an excellent post - the market looks for reasons to correct when valuations get to high

And by god, they’ve found it in the coronavirus.
Now all we have to wait for is capitulation.

Dow to bottom out at 22500 is my guess.
Ftse will follow of course 5800?

Toff

£13.2 billion market capital value now. Virtually what they paid for EE.

Interesting how Tory investors were worried about nationalization, when it would have been far more beneficial to shareholders.

Only part of BT would have been nationalized; and there are laws in place to prevent governments lowballing shareholders. Not so with market makers they can pick any number; they saw the election victory as a green light to smash BT’s shareprice.

The EE part of the business would have remained in private hands; as would other parts of the business.
A fair price would have been paid by the government for openreach.

And I can tell you the sum of those parts would have been substantially more than 134p

In fact the leftovers from nationalization would have been more than 134p

Unregulated capitalism enriches the few at the expense of the masses. BT being a case in point.

Toff

Smartman2

Member since 5 March 2020
Posts -1
On BT board

Pseudonyms - unknown but probably in excess of 20 (including Gollum)

Another one for the blocked list

Toff

Fleccy

“You laughed and ridiculed him when he stated 68p
Only 66p to go !!!"

Another pseudonym Troll“

All these boards follow the same pattern. Whenever a company SP is in terminal decline they attract trolls like flys to s***

You need to set out criteria to deal with them.
Ask yourself - do they really have anything of value to say. Anything worth listening to. Any experience of trading other than posting past- tense commentaries of what happened. If the answer is no - filter them out.

By replying to ‘nowhere nobody trolls’ you are validating their twisted opinions.

There’s posters I don’t like on this board, but I wouldn’t block them for that reason. I only block the chronic washouts - like dofe Avro Gollum

Toff

Rooster

“This has more to do with aggressive valuations and bullishness in pricing in the US “

Absolutely. If it wasn’t for that Yankee Doodle Dandy bullishness the ftse would have fallen to 5800 by now. The permabear 100 dog is a hostage to the Dow.

Paradoxically, while the Dow has recorded recent all time highs the ftse is trading at an all time low - on a valuation basis.

Company’s profits have risen immeasurably over the past 21 years but the permabear 100 has gone into reverse.

Toff

op Down PerspectiveToday 15:20
After decades being around markets I’d advise against buying right now. The coronavirus is an event on scale with the financial crisis; and markets are reacting in the same way.

I just know there’s going to be another dreadful day very soon, when the footsie drops 250 - 300 in a single day. Triggered by the Dow of course.

I’m taking a top down perspective rather that a bottom up one. I’ve pencilled in ftse 6000 as my top down buying opportunity. I’d imagine a lot of quality stocks will be priced for chump change by then. (As they are now but discounted chump change)

I know it doesn’t feel like it, but as long as you’re not fully invested, a panic driven bear market really is the best time to buy.

But you have to choose your stocks carefully. I’ve always favored buying market leaders on weakness.

Hey, bear markets don’t come around everyday. Grab the opportunity- but not just yet!

After decades being around markets I’d advise against buying right now. The coronavirus is an event on scale with the financial crisis; and markets are reacting in the same way.

I just know there’s going to be another dreadful day very soon, when the footsie drops 250 - 300 in a single day. Triggered by the Dow of course.

I’m taking a top down perspective rather that a bottom up one. I’ve pencilled in ftse 6000 as my top down buying opportunity. I’d imagine a lot of quality stocks will be priced for chump change by then. (As they are now but discounted chump change)

I know it doesn’t feel like it, but as long as you’re not fully invested, a panic driven bear market really is the best time to buy.

But you have to choose your stocks carefully. I’ve always favored buying market leaders on weakness.

Hey, bear markets don’t come around everyday. Grab the opportunity- but not just yet!

Toff

Gary

“I'm at a loss here like others I assume!!
20% down in last 2 weeks. “

I told you a few days ago the market makers had already decided to mark the rbs down to 150p

And it looks like it’s going to be sooner rather than later. That’ll be the time to buy

Toff

I notice is a hair’s breadth from breaking a new low today. It’s just got to breach 135 today when the Dow opens down.

My guess is 130 by Tuesday

Toff

Aviva posted a 6% rise in 2019 operating profit to 3.2 billion pounds ($4.12 billion) on Thursday on strong overall business, though profits in its UK life business dipped.

Operating profit was forecast at 3.1 billion pounds, according to a company-supplied consensus forecast.

The company said it would pay a dividend of 30.9 pence per share, up 3% and in line with forecasts.

£3.1 billion profit
The company is only valued at £13.5 billion
That’s 4.5p/e

A lowball valuation like that is unheard of in any other global market. But not in the Permabear 100

The market makers have marked it up a few pennies today.
If profits had come in 6 percent Below it would have fallen 112p. Current yield is about 8.25 percent. That should tell you how woefully mis priced uk shares are.

Toff

Fleccy

“The truth is Dofe, the Market Makers have phenomenal power in the markets and can literally drive sectors, “

The truth is Dofe is yet another username alias for Avro and Longtimeinvestor. I’ve blocked all three of them and I suggest everyone does the same. There’s nothing to be learnt from trolls, they are just the same as any other type of excrement. How many times do you have to block a person to eradicate them - in Avro/dofe’s case it would seem innumerable.

Toff