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Over a Billion shares in issue, and a7% 'drop' on less than 400,000 traded!! MM's certainly not looking for 'sellers', only want 'buyers'. 'Cheap as Chips' does not apply here, chips are worth more.

BTS 'extended' time scale for EIA approval of 'end Sept' is now looking like another gander into the Crystal Ball. Or did I miss another 'effort' from him.

For the first time using these boards I have filtered Dumb and his new pal, Metablx. When these pair of Living in Fantasy Island stooges show 'respect' to each other, and believe that they are having a meaningful discussion, it's time for the Filter. From reading other posters comments, I shall get a clue if either of them posts something credible.

Long wait for test results.

I did message Co, and request clarification on fundamentals of DMG process, 7 days ago, but, no reply as yet.

Metatron. definition of;

'Metatron, or Matatron, is an angel in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Metatron is mentioned three times in the Talmud, in a few brief passages in the Aggadah, the Targum, and in mystical Kabbalistic texts within Rabbinic literature.'

I think we all know where you are coming from. Seek medical help. Hospitals are a good starting point. Do worry, it's contagious, so other friends in your Cabal may also be infected after prolonged time together, without exercising the brain. **

** from the BMA.

'Agree with this, only adding that the investors could call for a voluntary liquidation to lower their losses if they lose confidence.'

The only way that investors could' lower their losses' if the liquidation was brought about by 'deal' with OCP, or 'another', to buy the License, and the proceeds divided between SH. PI are not preferential SH, and likely get zilch. Voluntary Liquidation, would, I suggest, only reward some BOD members, with possibly Board membership at the Black Knights table.

Divvyup

Below is a quote, early on, from the 2022 Article that you posted.

'For example, the first Hydrogen from plastics project at Protos, in Cheshire, will be operational in 2023 and deliver a minimum of 2 tonnes of Hydrogen per day of road transport Hydrogen which will significantly stimulate the local Hydrogen market.'

The rest of the article can be read in the context as to the quality of PDMR's giving these 'facts', 'will be open' lol

The Article is about H2 from DMG, as an acceptable 'fuel' under the provisions of the Renewable Fuels Transport Obligation, RTFO, as detailed below;

'include RCF’s, particularly unrecyclable plastics, within the scope of RTFO and other schemes, such as SAF standards etc. ' RCF (Recycled Carbon Fuels.)

No mention of obtaining Sustainable Aviation Fuels (SAF) in the article from DMG.

Gasification was used in reference to DMG;

'Up to 70% of Carbon contained within non-recyclable waste plastic can be directly separated as solid carbon residue, if gasified using the Powerhouse DMG process, for the production of Hydrogen'.

It is worth noting here that the figures for 'solid carbon residue, I believe, is purely theoretical. ie: "20 tonnes Plastic produce 2 Tonnes H2. 30% of the Syngas ( c) is H2, ( dependent upon feedstock), hence total Syngas is c 7 tonnes. If total Syngas is 7 tonnes, then there is 13 tonnes of solids, which is 65% of 20 tonne feedstock.

This brings me back to the debate on Pyrolysis/Gasification, and what liquids, if any, are produced. The above simple equation suggest that the authors of the Article say that no liquids are produced.

We await the results of the 'test' with anticipation.

Reference has been made multiple times to the change in 'marketing strategy', away from H2 production. I believe references to H2 from DMG, IRT to HUI and United Hydrogen are misguided. The only debate is whether DMG can cost effectively, produce H2 from waste plastic in DMG. PHE will have to show this for there to be any interest at all from customers specifically wanting H2. It may be, of course, that PHE has 'hit the brakes' on H2 from plastic because of the debacle with UK Govt on H2 colours, and does it conform to a fuel under the RTFO. However, there were much larger markets outside of the UK for H2, and that should have been incentive enough to maintain the strategy of H2 from plastic.

FYI Huw Edwards, was a reader of News, he did not give his own opinions. He has paid a high price for his criminal activity, and rightly so. May he rot in jail for a few years. You however, are a Moon Landing denier, hence uneducated. I have given you many chances to state your position, and you have not, you get your 'news' from conspiracy sites, TikTok, Instagram etc. Intelligent people view 'news' from the main sources, networks that have reporters 'on site', Worldwide, and are able to make objective assessments on the validity of the 'news' being reported.

'For the record, I've never mentioned the Moon or care much about it, way before my time so it's I'll have to have seen it to believe it.'

You did post, 'dont get me started on the moon landings'. This was in reference to a discussion with Thaiger on Conspiracy Theories, and you joined in with your nonsense on Govt. backed 'Chemtrails'. That is when you posted the above quote.

You cannot 'see', air, electricity, radio waves, but the overwhelming consensus Dumb, is that they all exist. You fool.

Pyrolysis of plastics produce oils, and some gas. The liquid (oil produced), with the right temp and pressures can be high in Kerosene, Aviation fuel. This is not a Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) , as described in the link provided by castle. A SAF needs to be derived from non-fossil fuel source, such as bio-mass. Plastic is a FF derived source, from Crude oil. EQT, once a pioneer in the Waste to Energy market, same as PHE, feedstock waste plastic. Their prime market now appears to be removal of Bio-mass. The co. it is still trying to get it's project 'over the line' in California. with the feedstock from the Forestry Commission. Forest floor accumulation of bio-mass is believed to be a major factor in the spread of devastating wildfires. Their product, with the right thermodynamic parameters, could be classed as AF. Other projects, planned in Eu, are also for the removal of Bio-mass, in industries ranging from Grapes to Olives. Their story is similar to PHE in many respects, particularly eternal waiting for proven production plant. Possibly PHE will be marketing DMG for Bio-mass removal. Would be a good move.

The Trifol plant in Ireland, recently discussed, uses Waste Plastic as a feedstock for AF production.. This will not, imo, produce SAF. SAF requires the feedstock to be non FF derived material.

It can be argued, to extremes, that the dirtiest FF, Coal, is a Bio-mass derived fuel. It is fallen trees. Crude Oil is the result of decomposition of fish and other marine life, under extreme pressures, temps, and of course, eons.

For the poster who thinks I am continually knocking PHE, he/she should sit in the Dunces Corner, with the hat. I have been here for 10 yrs and counting. Great believer in H2 technology, and was advocating for the removal of FF from the transport Industry before it was 'de riguer'. If he/she had a knowledge ( obviously not), of my posting history, h/s would know that my major concern was a variety of bad PDMR decisions. The website on DMG has changed, and hence the debate on 'what is DMG'. The company has not been overly enthusiastic about sharing details, has it. ? In the absence of direction from PDMR's, these boards, naturally, gravitate to conjecture posts. Some will find it informative, others not. It is a 'message board'. Capiche. .

'RE: Anything ?Today 11:27

I contacted the company last week and suggested there should be a RNS update or an X statement, but no response'

Proves the point succinctly. .

The 'test results' from S Wales will be glowing irrespective of the actual result. It is the MO of AIM cos. Temp. and pressure is all important in efficiency of 'breaking' chemical bonds in Polymers, the temp. and pressure define the quantities, and quality of the products. I believe PHE will also announce a 'new' market for DMG, Aviation Fuel. Goodbye H2. lol. Only my opinion. The primary 'goal' must be the safe, cost effective method, of ridding the environment of non-recyclable waste plastic.

Knew, not new.

Hello Dumb. I did not waste peoples time talking about moon Landings. The first Dumber, Thaiger, said he was a manned landing denier, you piped in with your Govt. 'chemtrails', and said 'dont get me started on Moon Landings. That is when I new you and Thaiger were uneducated fools. Hence the names. I asked you several times to say you were not a 'denier', failed to do so. Uneducated. You have now said you are leaving this site on several occasions. Pathological l**r. Your disinformation is a danger.

15lives. I think mentioning 'Pyrolysis' in brackets, as the definition of 'heating in the absence of O2, is substantial, since it is not mentioned, as far as I can see, in any of the 'technical papers' published on the website. I did ask Castle to share the link for his post, but he's so far up his own harris, he hasn't got the time. I think you will find, that the majority of people involved in the thermal decomposition of matter to a liquid, will say it is Pyrolysis. When the end product is a gas, where the process has elevated temperatures and pressures, it is called Gasification. I am sure that there are people who will disagree with that. It is a fact, that early articles on DMG, on the PHE website, referred to Plasma conditions. At no time can I remember any PHE publication mentioning 'liquid fuel', from DMG, specifically, Aviation Fuel. I wouldn't bet my pension on that though. Plasma condition for gasifying plastic require temps in excess of 2000dC, melting point higher than High Carbon Steels. For certain, the unit from China is a Pyrolysis plant. The 'test' results will make interesting reading. If the results mention successful production of Syngas, Char, and no liquids, I will believe it is a hoax. However, I think the results will show, liquids (Kerosene in particular), Syngas and char. The Co will announce a new market, the Aviation Industry. In a nutshell then, if any liquids are produced, it is Pyrolysis. This would explain, as far as I am aware, that the Co Patent is only for the heating of the furnace from the produced Syngas, with no external heating source necessary.

One more thing about investing in Brasil, no need to worry about 'red tape', 'committee holds up'. Every business transaction is subject to a bribe. The Football WC, and Olympics, both in RdJ, Brasil, in'14, '18 resp, bankrupted the State of Rio de Janeiro, and the effects of that are visible. Oderbrecht, owner of the largest construction Co in Brasil, was involved in contracts with Petrobras, the Govt 50% owned national oil company. The bribes paid to officials were in the order of $Ms to individuals not £1000's. Jailed for 20 yrs..That is the 'dark side'. The 'bright side', things get done. You pays your money, you gets the contract.

Bit of trivia

Some of us are old enough to remember Town Gas, the favoured medium for ending life by head in the oven ( sorry), since it was very toxic. Had a pungent smell, and gas leaks in the home were quickly identified. In the transition to natural gas ( CH4 Methane), since it is odourless, a 'smell' additive is used to detect leaks. Production of Town Gas was by gasification of coal, the end product being not high calorific value gas, combustible, with similar composition to Syngas, but with some Hydrogen Sulfide. ( the pungent smell). I can only assume, had colour coding been in place at the time, the H2 produced would have been 'black'. With different Thermodynamic parameters the solid residue after coal gasification, was sold as a 'smokeless' fuel, Coke. .

H2 from Steam Reforming Methane ( SRM), accounts for 90+ % of World production ( predominantly Shell plc), and because it has a very high C footprint, is Grey H2, and more recently, gas scrubbing to reduce C gas emissions, produces Blue H2. If H2 is produced from Syngas ( Water-gas shift reaction), H2 is grey since the process has large carbon footprint. If gas is 'scrubbed' then H2 would be Blue.

Since, to my knowledge, no specific details have been shared by PHE for the H2 production process from Syngas, I am assuming it is WGSR, or a variation.

To encapsulate some of my previous posts on H2 markets.

Cars and Hydrogen Fuel Cell.(HFC). Only available in western markets on high end marques, costing £60K+. The mass market will be Battery Powered Vehicles. BEV. The latter will gain much more momentum with Solis State batteries (SS), with ranges of 1000km +, and charging times in minutes, Also substantially lighter than Li batteries.

Main market for HFC will be HGV, Ships, Trains, Public Transport, some Inter-City aircraft., where cost is fraction of buying price.

Major users of H2 in HFC for the above markets, will do as they do now, buy their fuel in bulk, with 'Hub' storage facilities.

I believe PHE as now 'seen the light', and marketing the other benefits as previously described. The main one is cost effective removal of non-recyclable waste plastic and tyres from the environment, with usable bi-products, namely, Syngas with Gasification, and Kerosene ( Jet Fuel) with Pyrolysis, Process Thermodynamics, different temps and Pressures.

We only have one major hurdle to overcome now. Can DMG, by whatever process PHE decide to call it, produce Syngas from plastic and tyres, in commercial quantities.

Many Chemical Processing Plants use Syngas, H2, NH4 as a feedstock for a variety of products. All of these Plants are in 'out of town' locations, with a Recycling facility within a few Km, and an ideal site for DMG.

All IMHO.

15lives. 'The Powerhouse Energy website states its pyrolysis on the home page.'

I have looked on powerhouseenergy.bla,bla, and found only one mention of Pyrolysis, and that is on a basic Flow Chart, which mentions Pyrolysis, in brackets, as the definition of 'heating in the absence of air. I have not found the word used in any DMG article published by PHE. Also same for Castle, his post must have been CnP from web site, can he provide the site page, heading, and sub- heading for his remarks on Pyrolysis and gasification? Thnx in advance.

The site I have been looking at is old, and has not been updated

Thanks reply.

Glenhoss. DYOR is exactly right. Energy from Solar or wind is not 'new' technology. Electrolysis is at least 250 yrs old, solar power is nearly 100 yrs old, and electrical generation from wind, 150 yrs old. A link has already been provided for Electrolyser plants to produce green H2 from sustainable energy sources, to produce 10000tonnes pa.

PHE now, I believe, and about time too, have redirected their marketing focus on the removal of waste from the environment, and the production of Syngas, not H2. It remains a bolt-on process for clients who want H2.

So now you can perhaps answer the questions I raised.

1) what new Forum provider

2) medical or scientific Dr.

Cheers in advance,

A third question, did you know of DrAnomoly on this site before he changed his handle?

I have not seen, from a quick gander, any reference to Pyrolysis, on the PHE website. The opening page is all about the production of H2 from the forth coming Protus project. It may have escaped their attention, but I have news for them. !!!

Pyrolysis is well understood, and is an 'old' technology. All of the Pyrolysis plants that I am aware of, are for the production of liquids, not gases, which require much higher temps and pressures to produce Syngas. In India, there are literally 100s of these plants, turning plastic, tyres, into liquids, mainly heating oils, but with some 'gas' production, mainly toxic gases. The Pyrolysis technology that Trifol apparently use, is thermodynamically designed to produce a particular liquid, namely Kerosene, or Jet Fuel.

In the H2 production market, the Worlds largest supplier is Shell, from Steam Reforming Methane . The Crude Oil ( liquid plastic), is gasified in anaerobic conditions inside steel tubes at high temps and pressures, and is called 'cracking' not gasification or pyrolysis, but the former is evidently correct.

On the 'Technology' page on the website, there is a reference to gasification. For certain, the early PHE website mentioned 'plasma' temperatures for gas production from plastics and tyres. It seems it is not using that word now, which only strengthens any argument that complete gasification of plastic material is extremely difficult. Plasma temps are in excess of 2000dC, ie, above the MP of High Carbon steels, hence, the kiln from China does not produce plasma temps. For me, it is a confusing situation, and will not be resolved for a few years.

'Building it in a rain forest - they will not have to contend with a water shortage.'

Only have to contend with locals who are very handy with poison tipped blow pipes and arrows. Could make a movie from the confrontation, called may be 'Handle'