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I started to look up how markets can be/are manipulated a little while ago as it's often brought up on these bb's. I've never had any interest personally, but so many people discuss it, it seemed worth having a look. What I wrote earlier came from one of the youtube videos on market manipulation. Whether it's true or not, I'm not qualified to really say, but it's out there as one way of manipulating sentiment to get PI's to move one way or another.

Thanks pp, good explanation. I think I was kind of getting there.

I just looked it up. So here's the result of my search. So in this case, I guess it's likely a buyer and seller automatically matched in price to rapidly clear the trades. Overall neutral for SP, but I guess someone did want to buy and someone did want to sell. Is this arranged off book?

A matched order book transaction occurs when a buy order and a sell order for a security are paired together at a compatible price, resulting in a trade execution1

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Order compatibility: A buy order and a sell order are considered compatible when the maximum price of the buy order matches or exceeds the minimum price of the sell order1

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Automated matching: Modern exchanges use computerized algorithms to match orders quickly and efficiently1

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Prioritization: Matching systems use various methods to prioritize orders, such as first-in-first-out (FIFO) or pro-rata algorithms1

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Execution: Once matched, both orders are executed at the same price, and the trade is forwarded to the clearing system3

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Confirmation: The exchange informs the order owners of the execution, creating a trade record3

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This process ensures efficient and orderly trading in securities markets, allowing buyers and sellers to transact seamlessly through the exchange platform2

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But what's the function of the trade? I had read that sometimes the institution/person involved simultaneiously instructs 2 brokers. One to buy, one to sell and that gives no change in SP, not particular risk to the market participant, but bumps volume up that can get some traders keen to involve themselves in one directon or the othere. I can't particularly see how that would be likely here, but I do watch out for that.

If it's not related to that, what is the function of the trade?

Pp, that can be lossless transaction that aims to give PI's the idea that volume it on the up to trap them into believing they should buy (or sell). I guess there could be other reasons? It can be a sign of attempted manipulation.

Do you have a view on it?

'thin trading' not 'thing trading'

Sorry.

Yeah, I have that DK. I figured it's far enough away (particularly if we see thing trading over xmas) to have the SP off a little in advance. We've had good volume so far today, but I was expecting the SP to at least retest 247.75 (which it hasn't). Very tricky trying to get the best of entries and that's where FOMO came in for me this morning around 252/253

Is that the 4th Q and full year results?

I suspect that I'm in early, but it seems to be such a compelling valuation here that I've started buying on this little rise. I still see a high risk of the SP falling to 235 or even 220, but freely admit that no-one can see into the future. So I guess, FOMO has the better of me at the moment.

Good volume on today's rise. Suggests optimism from buyers.

I sometimes wonder that also AIM when I read press articles. It's a lazy way to get the low down, but there's a lot of good info crystalised here.

Aucuba, it's a playpit, full of children and fools. It's a sea of green for me. Rare posts have the genuine aim of learning or sharing. Mostly absolute fools.

28j, I can't see detail of how valuable this contract is or even detail on timelines. Do you have something?

I'd have thought that if AB was tempted by an offer, many of us would come out smelling of roses. His average buy in price is well north of here as I understand it.

I just filtered him JCL, makes no contribution and was wasting my time

The primary rationale I used to suggest 10.65 has been completed. But there was a 2ry pattern suggesting a move to 10.2. Maybe the SP is in fact going to 10.15, after which it might be worth buying quite a lot. Not meant to be advice, just the way I see it at the moment.

You seriously could not make up the discussions on bb's. Let me say, very clearly, that LO was very wrong and what you've said is very wrong. Things are exactly as I've stated them. I've taken profit and my intention is to buy back what I've sold if the SP hits the 52/53 area. It really is very simple. You don't need to find a conspiracy in every post. If you cared to look at my posting history, I think you'd quickly realise it's honest and that where I've suggest a SP might go to, has been pretty accurate. It's all there. This bb acts as an archive. I cannot alter it, pretend etc. It's like researching a company, you just have to actually want to do it. Or you can spout crap without any research. Your choice.

I don't see anything weird, it's all normal market practice. If you watch it closely and try to learn to dissect it, it'll give you great gains. In my view the market cap is moving quite a long way from the true value of the company and I'm getting more and more excited about it. Still haven't bough, could be caught out by O/N news etc, but to me, this is looking fab

In fact, you've gone from being 'daft' to breaking my rules on ti ts and timewasters.

I take out short positions, but not often. I watch short positions on stocks I'm interested in being in a long position on. You suggest 'people aren't stupid', apparently your are illiterate