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"Wouldnt surprise me if they hired marshall wace and other shorters to pursue their bid and minimise their cost"

Surin, wouldn't that be strictly illegal?

How do get 208 Senator? I can see a whole area of 204ish to 235ish as potentially interesting to buyers. I can also see a price of around 182 from Mar 18th 2013. I don't have a particularly strong view on where this is going, other than it's on the way down for the moment. Where does the 208 come from?

I have jan 6th as the low since July 2020 although Mar 2020 had it down to around 50p. Lockdowns were from March 2020 to March 2021 I believe. We actually had a SP high of 441 in June 2021 which seems incredible now. Is the company really in such bad shape?

What's the timeline for this buying. Can we figure that out due to rules of declaration? They didn't buy it today I'd imagine, or at least not on the open market as there's no change in SP? The RNS says completion on the 27th. Does that mean the whole transaction occurred yesterday?

I've just seen that, I'm terrible at interpreting these things but does it mean that GS have 3.2% of the WG shares? Also, does it mean they have just bought them recently. 3.2 % is about 31 million shares I think?

Good call on further falls Senator. I think that 270 has gone, although there's an outside chance the price will pull back up.

That was supposed to be 'money in muck' rather than 'money in much'

Here you go Winner, here's my latest sh i te post (your words). This is just to remind you that there's money in much and you're losing it because you have no idea how to evaluate probabilities associated with SP movements. Your positions are further in the red today than yesterday. The price is paused at a level I suggested represented the bottom of a trading range. Is that random? Is that something that was likely to happen? Work it out for yourself. If it closes below, then 320 or below (you love that level don't you) becomes very, very likely.

"if there's a trading range, I'd have that as being intact down to 348 or so. That range was pierced on Feb 4th and the SP fell to 340 or so reading from a 2h chart, I'd view that as making a fall lower than 348 much more likely. Any close below 348 makes 320 or lower very likely in my view.

You're absolutely right that I can't predict the future, no-one can. I have no more information than is available to everyone else either. But some things are a lot more likely and certain SP movements change their likelihood further.

Stasi, filter me if you're bored. Winner was rude to me, I'll respond as I see fit.

I've not seen this. We've previously discussed SP and why it's not going higher. If a rumour on a bb/media site triggered the change in SP direction and increase real (not imaginery) volume yesterday, it tells us clearly that there is money sat on the sidelines looking for more information. I know that sounds obvious, but we have discussed it and many people have wondered why the SP is not higher. This suggests it's to do with risk and the need for more information.

No you made a personal attack for no reason.

Winner, you've told me that you're a very important person in your world, you're a M&A guy and know what you're doing of course. I didn't ask you that, it's not relevant, but you wanted to impress me.

Instead of that (I find that very impressive of course), let's stick to investing/trading as that's what these boards are for. You're very successful as an investor/trader (my guess is investor as my guess is that you don't know how to make decisions that allow you to profit from market movements), so out of interest Winner, tell us what your average entry is on YOU.

If I look at a chart and work on the principle that you've been here a while, I'd take a stab in the dark that despite being a Winner, your average entry is higher than the current SP and that you're uncomfortable with anyone suggesting (correctly so far) that the SP will fall.

I hang my colours once again to the flagpole and say that I think that the SP will reach or go beyond 320p. There you have it. I will also state, once again that I will not take on significant risk here, until that happens. Fingers crossed that will ensure that I don't feel the need to gratuitously attack other posters who have a view different from my own.

You are angry Winner. You're not a Winner except either by birth or because you chose that moniker to make yourself feel like one. You are a very important M&A guy who has no idea about markets.

But why the rudeness? Why the antagonism. Why the anger.

Particularly if you're successful.

You say those that boast about trades on boards are never successful traders. Where's my boast? I called a level?

You are in fact boasting about your professional position and status. That's a very insecure way of being. I won't compare, I don't need to. I don't need to boast. I have something that I think is of value to others and am trying to share it. What will you say, when the SP hits 320 or lower and you've done nothing with your positions?

You sound as if you're losing money PIW, maybe you should listen to others or find a different way. I assume, you're holding it up and down and adding at the wrong places and generally make a mess of it. I assume it's why you're angry. One thing you have done is made me think that it's not much fun sharing on a bb. I'm still surprised by you.

It's true PI-W, I have. I've stayed consistent with that and missed a lot of upside etc. I do occasionally trade this and a few other things in a leveraged account that I consider as my 'canary account', just to keep me occupied and deal with my impulsive side. I don't build any sizeable positions in that account and for YOU I won't until it hits 320. I don't know if it'll be this swing down that does it, but it looks like a nasty swing (I'm not shorting it), but I believe that we will see 320 or below here and I won't put any significant risk on until I've seen that.

I'm sorry you feel the need to be so rude. I don't remember seeing that from you in the past.

I'll look at that, thanks Peterson.

LW, if there's a trading range, I'd have that as being intact down to 348 or so. That range was pierced on Feb 4th and the SP fell to 340 or so reading from a 2h chart, I'd view that as making a fall lower than 348 much more likely. Any close below 348 makes 320 or lower very likely in my view.

Dandan, I agree todays fall looks nasty. Normally there's a catalyst behind that kind of fall. Not had to time to check the timing of WPP results and whether that could be the catalyst. I'll try to check tomorrow.

I still think we'll see 320 or lower LW. I'm still waiting for that. I'd be interested to know what the reason behind the fall is though. That's 13.5 % give or take off the peak of 416.

There's been a big increase in volume over the last 15 min period (verifiable rather than fantasy volume) aswell, makes you think that there could be something significant in this rise.

Coldspy, no need for rudeness.

Each candle is 15 minutes, you can compare each 15 min candle to the next to get a good feel for volume. Where is your 'volume surge'. I'm calling you out, because almost nothing you say makes sense or is based on anything objective. It's just the latest alpha particle strike to your frontal cortex.

Wow, I think you've pretty well shown us who you are.

So you're there, spouting the first thing that crosses your mind, belittling me for challenging your post on a 'surge in volume', but you refuse to address it further when I show you what the volume actually was?

Nothing you say is based on fact, or even data is it Coldspy. For volume, that should at the very least have been based on you observing the data on volume. But you run with a fantasy 'surge in volume' instead.

I've had enough of you.

But for anyone that didn't see it, here's the volume with Coldspy's fantasy volume surge marked on it again.

https://screenrec.com/share/juSfT736GR

Coldspy, please address your comment saying there was a volume surge. You've seen my chart of volume and your call marked on it. Why did you make that comment?