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Hi Older and Wiser. Yes doze had the correct link. I have taken fruitflow for years. My blood pressure has improved whether coincidentally or not. I have recommended it to numerous friends and relatives and had good feedback. The company responsible for it are hopeless but the product itself for many years (maybe still) was the only supplement allowed by the European Food Standards Agency allowed to advertise its qualities of improving blood flow.
Its a high bar to satisfy and many majors failed to gain permission to advertise their products alleged benefits hence for example Activias "tummy loving care" which ironically probably works better for them than claiming their product does you any good.

Good to see you back Ophidian. Any input you have would be much appreciated

I think I'm persona non grata on the ODX board. I let my penchant for pedantry get the better of me!

Agreed Chris

Anyway I won't bore you lot any further. Good luck with your investment. I hope and expect you'll do well.

Wiki isn't up to date but it will help Merchant Banker to see where anibodies have fitted in up till now in antigen testing.

Well Merchant Banker you certainly win the debate on ticks.
With respect tho' you are still wrong.
Look up COVID-19 TESTING on wikipedia and read it very carefully

Hi Chris.
No its not the "at that moment" thing that distinguishes an affimer antigen test from an antibody antigen test. Any antigen test will aspire to tell you whether you have the disease "at that moment".
Only an antibody test like wot ODX are developing will tell you whether you have had it and recovered.

We really must agree to differ Merchant Banker.
In the context of testing affimers are animal free alternatives to antibodies. They are engineered binding proteins which for antigen testing purposes possess all the desirable properties of antibodies but avoid some problems of antibodies in that context such as fragility and cross reactivity.

Avacta is the gift that keeps on giving!
If our tests are indeed able to monitor disease progression how can every hospital in every country in the world for every patient every day not as a matter of standard practice administer an "Avacta"?

I suppose to answer your last post PDMSPiper the share price would go down until the collaboration with Adeptrix came to fruition in June

Do you really want to be discussing AVCT on this board PDMSPiper. Lateral flow design strips are a well recognised vehicle for delivering assays of various types. The AVCT Ceo is confident that the tests will work and that the hard stuff has been done. He is an impressive character who has the ear of and is in partnership with many multinationals.
That having been said it would be a fool who would say that any investment is without risk.
Have a good day

Sorry to be a pain in the backside PDMS Piper but its obvious from AvCT last presentation that Cytivia are not calling the shots. They are one of the manufacturers and AVCT anticipate appointing others.
PS Happy to stop discussing AVCT here if you are.

oops lol didn’t

dudn’t

Hi merchant banker.
Thanks for your last two messages.
I suspect neither of us are medical men and someone more expert than either of us will correct one other or both of us in due course. For now my reply is as follows
.1. Your definition of pathogens and antigens sounds OK to me.
2. I also agree that the have you had it tests are tests for antibodies.
3. I did say that AVCT were the first to create an antigen test. Many others have created such tests. The first one to have got as far as FDA emergency sanction was Quidels test reported on 9th May. You can google it. The problem has been up till now that (stick with me) using antibodies to detect antigens has failed in terms of sensitivity and specificity. AVCT believe that replacing antibodies with affirmers in this context will make all the difference. Currently they are expecting to bring to production in June a lab test which is definitely not a PCR but which will utilise the enormous diagnostic power and efficiency of the worlds army of Mass Spectrometers. As you say they also intend to bring out a pregnancy style strip test.
I apologise to the rest of the ODX board for mentioning another company (albeit you did so first). It was only to rebut points raised.
The good news as you say is that AVCT and ODX are not competitors the world needs as many of both tests as possible so we can still be friends.

Its not Merchant Banker. A PCR test targets fragments of the virus itself. An antigen test targets proteins on the sorface of the virus not strictly speaking part of the virus itself.

Just to be a bit peadantic commercial "Do you have it" tests at the moment are PCR tests not antigen tests. In fact a commercial antigen test has not yet entered production although its expected some will be unveiled very shortly.

fruitflow. The company that makes it is a dog. But I'd swear by the supplement.