illbetabuck, you should feel honoured, I only (engage full patronising mode) because of posters such as you, against all best advise to engage with someone who fits to the letter the description of 'bashers' posted by MYO yesterday, it's only because of your devious agenda here that I felt the need to forward some actual real life information, there can't be any balance on this board at this time as it's been pervaded by posters such as yourself with a clear objective to pray on the worry of genuine people to meet your own agenda, come on it could not be more obvious, you most certainly are not here for the benefit of others using this board, I'm certain as soon as the company release further information on the way they intend to take this project forward you and a few other pop up bashers will vanish in to the ether without trace, you might fool a few but you most certainly are not fooling anyone who's been around these boards for a while, the repetition of some of your posts like just now is a big give away.
Sheps, hope the sweatpants aren't getting too crusty for you on your long shift pattern. ;-)
For some of us that have a bit more idea what's going on here there is an absolute priority to remove the 'elephant in the hole' so to speak this can be summed up in one word "Aquifers" the company will now focus its resources on one main area.
1: To get one shaft successfully through the aquifers that have always been considered to hold the greatest risk factor to this whole project, it's very well known for years, it's been debated and documented around which the greatest construction risk falls, that is now apparent that it directly relates to the current ST2 finance difficulties.
My own opinion is that the TBM will keep moving forward but could if felt nessasary due to immediate financial constraints be stopped until such a time that finances allow for full speed ahead.
So much devious activity on this board by certain posters is clouding reality here, you need to do your own research to unpick the nonsense,there are one or two posters on this board that I know hold genuine actual information not the total invention that seems to have pervaded this board to meet there agenda's, obviously I respect their confidentiality completely but as far as the company is concerned it is doing what is absolutely necessary to keep moving forward all be it under different critical path until such a time that the above major risk unwinds.
Fred16, I can highly recommend giving this board a wide berth for a while it really is very cathartic to do so, there a some posters that have infested this board that are beyond any form of normal decency in the way they are posting on here at the moment, you should know that if Sirius has 85000 private investors only a tiny fraction of them will read this or any other board on a regular basic, I like you and many tens of thousands of those investors have not and will not be influenced by the form of low life posters that are here to undermine your opinions to the point you make decisions based on their totally repulsive agenda's because without a shadow of a doubt they are not here for your or anyone else's benefit other than their own, it's truly shocking what some of these low life's have put in writing over the last 48 hours, unfortunately my account on here is not working properly and will not allow me to report some of the more defamation and libellous remarks I've seen, multiple account holders abound here some paid by those who have a strong interest in seeing this project fail of that I'm certain.
I wish you and all LTH's well even those who are genuinely concerned, it's stressful enough period for many without the absolutely abominable behaviour of the low life's that have invaded this board more recently, in reality they should be ashamed of themselves but reality is they will continue to try and undermine and weaken, the only real solution is to follow the vast majority of PI's and see this snake pit for what it is.
A clear and unambiguous statement from the company over what I believe to be a twisted comment from a perhaps Ill advised interview from Chris Fraser in the Daily Mail:
"Following media queries, we have provided a very clear statement that there is no intention to take Sirius Minerals private. Our focus continues to be on completing our strategic review and unlocking the value of our project for shareholders, our community, and the UK as a whole."
However I'm sure many have taken advantage one way or the other about this misleading piece of journalist poetic licence, get on with the job in hand Chris your not doing the company any favours by being so naive about the way the press operate.
TD2, as Sxx's oldest adversary that I know of on this board your post is extremely misleading (not that I and others would expect anything less from you) what you are attempting to portray without mentioning a name ( no doubt because you know you are on very dodgy ground Tricky Dicky) is that we have been deliberately mislead since 2012, everyone who has followed Sirius since 2012 knows full well the story and obstacles that have come and been overcome since those arduous planning stages of this project, yes mistakes, yes a learning curve for all not least the company's management as well as investors, however a vast majority have/are learning and get up dust ourselves down and move forward, then there's people like you, bitter twisted and spiteful to the end, I'm so pleased I'm in the former camp, this isn't over yet by a long chalk and we are so much further ahead in terms of what Sirius intend to create back in 2012, a complete transformation in terms of the actual company but also the progress as we move forward, all be it at a currently slower pace than a few weeks ago, I doubt you will ever get over 'your' past mistakes no matter what harm you try to inflict on the company and others with your deceptive twisted posts, you've been banned from here and elsewhere previously for making untrue, unsubstantiated and libellous claims DT2 that's why your post is carefully constructed in such a way, you usually slowly push it to the limit before that happens, I will be watching the way you continue your agenda against Sirius very carefully and again reminding some of the newer members of this board what you have been up to since quite a while before 2012.
Forgive me Fred but you seem to take everything that's posted on here at face value, I have absolutely no doubt that Scootaboy is the old Superleggera, why on earth would he have had a dig at me on the 4th October when I'd never even engaged with him!!!. To use his speel you only have to look at his 'prose' to realize it's the same fraud that was SL.
Id like to say he's gone from an Italian MotorBike to an Italian Scooter, but reality is he's a Plastic Mod, a slang name given to people who ride modern plastic scooters and very very fitting indeed.
It will be interesting to see how long it becomes blatantly obvious to others on here who he is because I picked up on it after seeing just one post of his here today and find it highly amusing that he seriously thinks no one would pick up on it straight away, what a plonker as Del Boy would say. :-))
dinger189, care to explain how you can speak with such authority when you state "if any potentially positive talks had even begun"!!! yes let's be honest you haven't the foggiest about what's going on within the company regarding "talks" or when official information or any other price sensitive information will be released in an official RNS, you are making wild unsubstantiated remarks.
I was mainly stating an opposing opinion to Chilting's guess about the shorting situation.
Chilting, your "guess" could very much be applied in the opposite direction given your "The SP is still way below the falling average - around 6-7p - and is therefore very vulnerable." "Regardless of the good news that now looks more likely at the end of the month" is my guess is that shorters would be in extremely dangerous territory to "try and take the SP down another step" given the high risk factor of the SP rising rapidly on any good news regarding the finance restructuring.
Eskman, I'm not quite sure where you were during the three arduous years of the planning process with the NYMNP, if you followed it you might just get the flaw In your plan about trucking a up to a million tons of ore a year down the road past Sneaton to Ruswarp, more chance of being struck by lightning than that ever happening, they wouldn't allow it, of that I am absolutely certain ;-)
RUSirius, so basically you invested in Sirius purely based on a CEO promoting and gaining support for the business he is employed to steer and promote, not a hint of acceptance that you invested in a mining start up and the massively documented and historical risks associated with such a project, no you think has to be someone else's fault for your own decisions, and from the minute you realise that it's not all blue sky sailing and real life events throw up obstacles you try constantly and repeatedly to reinforce your justification for your own personal misgivings on others by trying to place that responsibility on someone else.
It's obviously a bit too late for this but grow up RUSirius, act like a man and not a coward hiding behind others, I don't normally speak of my own personal investment but I too am considerably down on my investment here like most, difference is I don't look to offload my responsibility on anyone but myself and will see this through to the end because I believe in the company as a whole
I'm most certainly not a happy clapper to CF or anyone for that matter but I do have the ability to look at this situation objectively, no CF is not some god like being but then again he has never tried to be one, it's you that needs to take the glasses off RU and realise that your kind of behaviour does absolutely nothing to help either you or anyone else invested in Sirius Minerals, you've been at this blame laying for far too long now completely ignoring real life and world circumstances that bring us to this point, what exactly do you think you are actually achieving apart from undermining investor confidence even more.
I cannot fathom such stupidity other than to reiterate I find your posting and history very suspicious indeed, it's one thing to be dissatisfied and disappointed and want to express it, it's another to spend years doing so out of bitterness because you and no one else made the decisions about your own financial matters, get over yourself.
RUSirius, don't think for one minute that a many LTH's don't know how long you've been doing your utmost to destroy investor confidence on this particular board, a long time before the ST2 finance issues kicked in, there can be no doubt you have an agenda to destabilise investor confidence on this board with your constant rants that deliberately aims to whitewash over any external issues that have thrown up hurdles all along the way for this company but instead try to place all the blame on one mans shoulders, your pseudonym on here raised an eyebrow from your first post and I was totally right to be suspicious of your motives, let's face it you would have to be completely insane to diss your own investment with such venom over such a long period of time that you have, I personally think you should be at the top of that list of the people that need investigating, I find your posting and history here very suspicious indeed and have done a long long time before the company's current difficulties.
Tony, your apology about your frustrations is commendable, thankyou, I too am frustrated not because of my own considerable investment here but the situation regarding what this company brings to not only our immediate area but the North East as a whole, what I feel so many people are overlooking is that economic uncertainty surrounding our own country regardless any personal view about Brexit has had a severe and overbearing effect on Sirius's efforts to get ST2 finance away as originally planned then changed to the JPM and Bonds, many people where involved in negotiations over this outwith Sirius's own financial team, while so many are looking in frustration to apportion blame to individuals very few of those don't seem to want to seriously consider this, I like many have followed all angles of this project, sometimes dedicating far too much of my personal time that could have been better spent on other things, however one thing that I'm determined to do is try and be objective about what's happening and wherever possible point out when I know personal opinions are just that rather than facts, please accept my apologies if my remarks to you came across as personal too, I understand your frustrations I just want to keep mine in check to facts where possible and not look to lay blame without looking at all the real underlying causes of the current situation.
In reality where would we be without the foresight determination tenacity and skills that got this project from some core samples below the NYMNP the most protected environment in the world to where it is today, people easily forget what we've been through to get to this point and in my opinion despite concerns it's most certainly not over yet.
Oh dear Tony, as someone who knows all about the accomodation facilities Sirius use in Scarborough I'm afraid you now really are misleading people, there most certainly has not been hundreds of empty hotel rooms stood empty in Scarborough, I won't pretend (like you) that I know about whitby, tell me have you ever visited the Sirius offices in Scarborough? I have and it's full of people not just Sirius direct staff but that of the management and admin of the contractors working on the project, the need for this was essential on a project of this complexity.
I'm afraid I know your talking nonsense Tony, absolutely and utter nonsense.
TonyFawcett, I'm afraid you seem to be the type of person that's apportioning blame on anyone but those responsible for their own actions by dangerously overcommiting themselves to one investment, name me a single company that does not promote itself,jparticularly a start up company, can you point me to where Fraser said to anyone "you must by theses shares, you need to specifically read exactly what Fraser has said, I've met him on several occasions and your personality assassination of him could not be further from the truth, he is anything but a man of "ego and exuberance" indeed if you are the person I think you are a good look in the mirror would be my advise to you!!!.
Your comment about "misssmanagement and wasting shareholders money "care to be a bit more specific about that? or perhaps you think a CEO driving around in a Rangerover when he should be driving a Ford Focus is more to your liking, finally you know full well you are as entitled to your own opinions and expressions of dissatisfaction as anyone on here but do not assume your misguided bitter and misleading statements and thoughts belong to anyone else, especially those of us who perhaps have a greater knowledge of Sirius its history, hurdles and project than it would appear you do.
Cherokee101, as someone who has recently spent considerably less time on the Internet, listening to gossip, creative invention or up me own rectum but chosing instead to spend a little bit more time personally looking and investigating actual site activity including visiting on this very dank wet Sunday Woodsmith, Lockwood Beck and Wilton I feel the need to inform you of your "but what do I know" is totally misleading and wrong.
Being polite and avoiding the insulting language but you either have been fed totally false information or you need to take a good look in the mirror with regard to terminology you are using because totally false information all three sites are full of construction activity, I'm pretty sure the shift change coaches lined up at Woodsmith weren't transporting a decommissioning crew. ;-).
jonesrichard your "why don't you go and work for the Motley Fool, you will fit right in there and you can get paid £45 per time."
For some considerable time I have suspected that casa is paid for his contributions to this board, a book I read and recently referenced on here about stock investing gave quite an insight into the shadier side of these boards and yes it does go on , your making a big mistake if you take anything written on here at face value from anyone, be very wary because those who a paid are very clever cookies indeed, they are selected because of their ability to deceive, often posing questions and analysis that cannot reasonably argued because the information is not freely available in the public domain, a big DYOR as the basis for own investment decisions and blame no one but yourself if those decisions don't turn out as you thought.
It seems to me you take this board far too seriously in place of your own independent research and analysis.
Thanks for reinforcing my sentiments about this board dogstar, in a couple of sentences you've summed up exactly the type of person I'm referring to, it's only when you get away from this board that you get perspecivet as to how pathetic it's become with so many people on both sides of the coin refusing to accept responsibility for their own actions, trying to shift responsibility on to others because they post on what was generally a board for talking about the company from all perspectives, that certainly isn't what this board is now, full of creatures trying to influence others into making decisions about their own money and investments, about as low as you can get IMO.
For all you genuine LTH's.
It is only when you stop following this board as I've done since just after the suspension of the bonds and just look in on the odd occasion that you really get a grasp of what it's become, a feeding ground for sad individuals who for some reason or another think they can influence you in your decisions regarding your investment, when you don't follow page after page of the recent incumbents in the cesspit they've turned this board into you quickly realize just what a pathetic board this has actually become, some of you could benefit from taking a big step back from what's going on here for your own good, it really does give you perspective not only about the your own financial situation but your mental wellbeing, you are swimming in a sea of sharks.
Best Wishes and Kind Regards to all you genuine people out there.