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A movie? - The same dilemma that bedevils Hollywood afflicts the markets - their both rife with gross tedium and mediocrity.

I would sooner learn the price of cabbages in Timbuktu than the ramblings of these broker twats!

I have been keeping an eye on this stock/company and wondering if to take a punt (not to invest, given the current status). I must confess that I can't read the signals through all the noise, and going short or long seems equally to merit the same considerations. It would unnerve me less if this company were based, and operating, in the UK.

Seeing is believing, and let's see what happens.

Auditors?.... All very reminiscent of the Ratings Agencies during the sub-prime sage. All these crooks and clowns are bought and paid for. Due your own due diligence. Many investors (not speculators) got and continue to get caught out listening to these lemmings. I emphasise again, do your own due diligence. Good luck.

Ah, the plonker of a broker brings his cretinous wisdom to bear on what everybody has already known for the past few days.

Given that you appear to be so very well informed, and express evident confidence, perhaps you ought to be managing this company because I would surmise they have not the 'bottle' to make the kind of forward statements that you appear to churn out, as per an oracle. The future, as we all know, is a mystery, and certainty a strictly a fortune-teller's game. (I prefer tea leaves personally, but that's just me!)

Theory - When will the company start making money and delivering a dividend in lieu of reporting losses and burning cash.: Practice - Proceed with caution!

You may care to read this article in today's telegapph that may offer various perspectives on this lamentable corporate episode. - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/mining/9564745/Light-finally-begins-to-shine-on-Bumis-murky-machinations.html# - I would be wary investing on the basis that these assets are outside UK jurisdiction, and getting funds from elites in nations like Indonesia is tantamount to suing its government, because the elites and governemnt are often indistinguishable. Good luck, and it's good to see you are keeped in to the details, and doing due diligence on the company per se, and not diverted by ancient brands (i.e. Rothschild). After all, Nathan and his broters (and tne contemporaneous clan of Rothschilds) were one of a kind. Those days have passed, along with Pax Britannica.

This was the whole gambit - people blindly invested in the Rothschild name without due diligence of the company per se. My remarks circa the Greeks et al may seem flippant ruck-making, but its candidly germane to the facts. Ramping up this stock is not benign advice but desperate tactics. This is now, - in my opinion, I stress - for speculators, not investors. Butin retrospect, the markets are become that in essence and actuality - a rigged casino. And matters will not change until regulators (read governments) press down hard on these unscrupulos and, to be blunt corrupt, antics. I hope all investors (naieve and otherwise) recover thier funds in whatever way they can.

I still don't see any Greeks coming in to buy this. You need their character to turn this around. A Rothchild's won't cut it in a place like Indonesia. Perhaps even a Russian, or an Arab. This is no place for cozy investments. But then again, this is just one guy's opinon. What the deuce do I know?!

Well, look at it this way, the best form of flattery is immitation!

I would be exceedingly skeptical of what you may think you, or any broker imagines he may, see on charts. This is not a chart driven stock right now. It can't be. Rely on your gut instinct. I don't know where it will move, but charts are left to seamen to at the present time. Good sailing all!

Nomura is just another moniker for a rear end!

Then let Jefferies and every other quack of similar repute put its money where it's mouth it!

Opinions, like rear ends, are omnipresent and don't mean a thing outside an individual's rear!

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Hmm...

As the stock is now delisted, this forum is effectively all played out. So I wish you well in your future investments, and hopefully even moreso that you heed your own insightful advice and LEARN from others' mistakes. Good luck and best wishes! - Seifert.

Good post. But the fact is, people never learn. And that applies at all levels of finance.