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Of interest - in December 08 the SP was 60p but by March 11 the SP was up to 600p then down to 47p on January 16 but up to 330p on August 17 now down to 162p so next step may be back up to the 300p level ???

I have been trading HOC for 4 years now but did not have the courage to ride the huge SP rises beyond 20% !!! Hindsight is a cruel thing at times - but if I had bought at any of the many low SP levels then held for a year or so I would be a very rich investor now !!!

Perhaps Trump will be got rid of soon and the world SMs will recover quickly

GL all next week

Hello Sotolo - HOC is a very volatile share but so are most of the others ! I believe we have hit bottom now and the SP will rise over the next few months. But the elephant in the room is Trump - he seems intent on putting the world back into the "Great Depression" times. The man is a dangerous fool who is also the world`s most powerful man. Most "experts" are forecasting a major crash from October if Trump does not moderate his malign actions. logically there will be a rush into gold and other PM if the major crash comes.

Time will tell but I am holding for the mo but will probably sell in October if the crash comes

Regards

uncertain - KAZ hit mainly by the vast new spend proposed for the Russian adventure - brokers marked down the SP to compensate on MV. The same thing happened last week on SXX - new spend required of $600M for their tunnels - brokers dropped the SP 30% and it is presently going sideways - unlike KAZ - which can still pull out of the Russian adventure - SXX is committed to the new spend and the SP will not recover much.

If KAZ does cancel the Russian project the SP will more than double immediately.

But who knows what the future holds - Madman Trump may have obliterated world trade by 2019 !!!

Regards

3 shares bought just before the bell - must be a secret broker signal that HOC will hit 200p next week - LOL

Have a good weekend all

De nada senor - no problem with capitals in the right context - like BOOM !

GL

SAS - with that login you should be able to take action - LOL - how much spare cash do you have - we could make Trump "An offer he caint refuse !"

But seriously - this is now about a week of red days on world markets - how low can it go this time ? I remember watching the markets in amazement the day of the Japanese earthquake and Tsunami and how markets crashed 30% or more - we live in very uncertain times and if you can make some profits in the market now you are very lucky - as Napoleon said about one of his Marshals "I care not if he is a foul mouthed peasant as long as he is lucky on the battlefield !"

HOC MUST be a good investment at these low SPs - it is just a matter of waiting for the upsurge back to the 300p level IMO. Apart from the Arcata mine which has been performing poorly - but is now discovering new veins to mine - the other mines are performing very well. Inmaculada output is really great and our SP is far too low for the fundamentals of the company.

Regards and GL with your own plans

starting to rise

GL all

markets will go well down but not all company share prices will go down - logically a flight to gold will see HOC SP well up soon

regards

It is of note that when a large company like KAZ or SXX announce a plan to take on lots more debt to fund 10 year projects the Market Mafia immediately hit the MCAP for the amount of new debt and crash the SP downwards - not too long ago KAZ was at £15 SP and is now at about £5. yesterday SXX SP got hit and is down from a recent peak of 40p to about 26p. PIs have no warning of impending extra debt taken on by a company and must just accept the SP crash. HOC is at an unjustified historically low level now and I am hoping the SP will soon shake off the doldrums and get back to a reasonable valuation - 200p +++ At least we have very little debt - with interest rates climbing we are in a strong financial position.

GL all

I have just bought back in at 162p for £12K - if HOC follows its traditional path the SP should start to rise soon back to at least 200p - however - no telling what idiot Trump will do next to crash world markets. 4 US Presidents have been assassinated and another 4 have died in office from natural causes - perhaps the world will be lucky and Pence will take over as POTUS !

GL all

Eish - TY but my past experience of Solgold leaves me with no faith in the management so they are on my blacklist. As you know - I will not at the mo invest in any African based company due to corruption across the continent. I did buy into SXX yesterday and was lucky to hit the low point of 24p - sold later at 29p for a profit of £5K. SXX back at 26p - worth a punt IMO.

My forecast of a world wide SM crash seems to be in progress - 8 days of red screens - Trump is destroying world commerce !

Regards

GL all today

happened to KAZ recently when they announced a project in the Russian wilderness to build an open cast township at a cost of $5.5 billion - with upfront costs of $1.2 billion - the Market Mafia deducted £1.2 billion from the KAZ MV and the shares plunged from £10 to about £5 - where they sit now.

Hopefully SXX will recover a lot over the next few days

Regards all

massive buys and sells today - buys winning at the mo

GL all

Shonen - the best wine is in the oldest bottles

Regards

KAZ has done remarkably well today to hold its ground when we look at other miners and oilies 5% to 17% down.

Hopefully the long drawn out slump in SMs world wide will bottom out soon and start to climb again

GL all

valveamp - I and all my family and friends voted to leave the EU - especially after the German Foreign Minister said "What Germany failed to do by military force in 1914 and 1939 we have now achieved by political force" - ie The Fourth Reich ruling all of Europe. Even Hitler did not conquer the UK and Spain and Portugal and the Republic of Ireland - but Germany now has !

Trump is a fool who does not understand that import tariffs are paid by the user ie American citizens are paying 20% more for iron steel aluminium timber et al and when this really hits home next year the ordinary citizens of the USA will feel the pinch.

Regards

Quien sabe senor - Dios solamente Who knows sir - only God ! It`s a crazy world at the mo with POTUS an imbecile who is wrecking world trade and it will all bounce back on US importers who thrive on cheap imports. Next year will be a major crash IMO for US and world markets - unless Trump is got rid of and we replace our useless PM May with someone competent to do battle with our traditional enemies on the mainland. A no deal BREXIT seems to be certain - although Barnier is now mooting a "Canada" type deal which would work well for the UK.

We live in turbulent times and markets do not like uncertainty.

Hopefully HOC is now in the recovery phase with its` SP

Regards and GL with your won plans

Good morning Eish - my thoughts also - September bad for stocks but good for gold miners - look back at last year SPs of most companies - high in September then down anything from 20% to 70% today. looks bad for another big drop in SM world wide over the next 6 months or so.

I was happy to buy HOC at 200p thinking it a good buy then - I have now bought another 12K of shares at 165p - surely the SP drop is well over done now ?

Maybe Trump will be knocked off his perch soon and the world can go back to sane trading !!!

GL all

brokers trying to knock out cheap shares - just ignore the SP or buy more if you have spare cash