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me, the aforementioned pair of grouse...and the share price.

-- just a complete bag of cr@p!

Some private investors (individuals) might consider this a worthwhile punt at the present price...I did at 14 pence.

But that does not explain the steady and continued push up over the last several hours.

Something more than a hunch or just regarding it as a decent bet is behind this.

that somebody knows something?

Perhaps Samsung's legal team might have contacted Nanoco's and offered some sort of deal?

that it is something connected, either directly or indirectly, to that link below that someone posted yesterday.

Whispering Grass my mate?

Given what has happened regarding the s.p over the last 6 or 7 weeks, it would appear that we might be on for a period of new consolidation...say somewhere just above the 9 pence mark.

Either that, or another productive RNS come Monday morning one would have thought.

Come what may...things are certainly starting to move further along that is for sure.

I am not openly disagreeing with any of them, far from it...just would have expected the s.p to have been a little higher by now under present circumstances.

However, will consider adding a few more in the next day or two if the price persists in holding.

Its a fairly valued punt when all is said and done.

Worth a couple of grand at the very least.

So what actually would any settlement paid out to Nanoco have then regarding the effect on the s.p? Obviously it goes considerably upwards...but by what amount?

Lots of big numbers being bandied around here as to just what the amount, if indeed there is to be a pay-out, of any future settlement/award might be.

So using a "little" figure of say two-hundred and fifty million to Nanoco, as a final award after legal expenses, what price the s.p then?

But the reason that the s.p has not moved very much is rather quite simple: it is still just speculative...as every single mining operation always is of course.

has, seemingly, offered a view on Block's misfortunes...so here is an old dogs perspective: the s.p is nose-diving because investors do not believe a word the directors of this company, truthful or otherwise, say anymore.

Simple as that really.

Remains what it always was: an out and out punt. Even more so now.

I would caution anyone to only invest what they can comfortably afford to lose here...anything else is just plain old gambling. And most gambling just ends the same old way -- losing!!

Remember this much: the only ones who stand to lose out here in a big way are us...not the big investors or the company board...but us...us the little minnows.

And one other thing: if it does go t!ts up...the very last people to realize will be the very people on this thread who have invested far to much. That's most of you I suspect.

Start thinking about how to get out...not how much many of you are probably very unlikely to actually ever make.

...all interesting comments.

But just bear several things in mind.

1. A "Confidentiality" or "Nondisclosure Agreement" is notoriously difficult to enforce. A quick search of the internet will clearly demonstrate this to even the most sceptical amongst you.

Quote from Google: "NDAs are legally enforceable contracts, but they're now coming under increased scrutiny from lawmakers, attorneys and legal experts. ... Companies often use them as part of an employment contract or settlement agreement to protect sensitive information — like trade secrets."

2. If the outcome of this case was already a forgone conclusion in Nanoco's favour...the s.p, by now, would not be dallying around the 22 pence mark.

Monday morning could maybe give an indication as to what the broader markets think regarding Nanoco's chances of any success...and if not immediately Monday morning, later on in the week perhaps?

At the very least, if things are as cut and dried as many of you insist, the s.p should move incrementally, however slowly, upwards somewhat.

As a latecomer to the party, I just see this legal dispute as something that might or might not come off. A straight fifty-fifty chance of success or failure.

I truly hope Nanoco are successful...I am, after all, a shareholder. But I am not betting my shirt on it neither.

One last thing. The only way that Nanoco can gain very quickly here is if Samsung decide to concede the defence...otherwise this could drag on for several years to come. Not a very satisfactory state of affairs for Nanoco (for all the many scenario's already discussed) nor for Nanoco's backers I should think also. In fact this hearing might be as far as Nanoco's ambitions go, if the hearing results in commentary that is pretty much inconclusive...then Nanoco's backers might start to get cold feet. Time will soon tell on that one.

Do I think there will be an admission of guilt from Samsung whatever the outcome of this hearing?

No! and I never did.

It will go to trial by jury.

Will your averagely intelligent juror be able to understand the scientific jargon?

Nope! not a chance.

What will a successful prosecution hinge upon then?

Nanoco will have to show "intent". They will have to clearly demonstrate a modus-operandi, conceived and used by Samsung on multiple occasions so it might seem, with the sole purpose of gaining Nanoco's trust so they (Samsung) could steal their (Nanoco's) intellectual property using the guise of a shared and mutual understanding and the big lie of an awarded contract at the conclusion of it all.

That sort of intent is not as easy to prove as many people might think.

And as for intellectual property rights? As the world rapidly expands in every single field of human endeavour and inventiveness...I.P will have less and less relevance attached to it.

What are we, as a dominant super-species, supposed to do? Stifle ingenuity and resourcefulness upon the high alter of selfish protectionism?

Tosh!!

As more and more in-depth research is undertaken and more and more discovery announced in so many differing fields the time for hoarding so called intellectual property is coming to an end.

And so it should! Competition has had its place. But co-operation will always be the way of the future.

Covid and the absolute necessity for a vaccine (and more vaccines to rapidly follow on) has proven this to any right minded person. Together we will thrive. Divided we will perish.

The only way for Nanoco to win this case is to prove that Samsung, right from the very onset, attempted to deceive and cheat them. That they (Samsung) made false and misleading promises and their (Samsung's) sole intention was to steal something that they (Samsung) could not otherwise achieve.

If Samsung can convince the court that they themselves were more than capable through their own research to arrive at the same point that Nanoco had previously arrived at, then the jury may well decide that Samsung got to the same point regardless of what Nanoco did beforehand.

And all that might be a lot easier to demonstrate than Nanoco's contention of a conspiracy to commit theft.

and of course...who ever is sat on the jury. Everyone sees things in a slightly different shade of colour...even when those "things" are transparent and most obvious. After all: all things are subjective. Are we not all individuals?

Come Monday morning, more than a few minds might have been convinced either way. "Minds" in the wider market that is.

Its "all in the wording"? You bet your sweets boots it is!

"How a jury makes sense of this is beyond me though unless they were selected from PhD chemists".

Spot on! And being jurors they will have to, therefore, use what common-sense and intellect they all might (well -- let us fervently hope so!) as individuals possess.

...ohhh Gawd.

1pm...looks as if could possibly be 9am?

Sold over 3700 at £4.59 (profit = 7,850.00)...increased my holding in Apple.

Also bought into Microsoft, Alibaba, Qualcomm, Crowdstorm and Pinterest...dollars ridiculously cheap at the moment and will make even more profit when the Dollar returns in greater strength several years from now.

Still holding over 5500 in Royal Mail...will sell another tranche at £6.70 -- £7.00 (if we see it)...and then hold.

In three or four short years from now these shares WILL be worth £10 a share.

Take it from a dog who knows...he gets about don't you all know. ;) Lol!

Take care everyone (and that includes you Red) Ta-ra -- Woof!! :)

P.s This dog WILL return.

In that case my apologies to both their Honours.

That could be helpful for us then.

Someone will be sat in that court with either a vested interest or observing with a view to passing on the Judge's reactions to those that do have a vested interest.

Any sudden movement, either way, in the s.p from late on in the afternoon might well give a good indication of which side is impressing the most upon the good Judge Gilstrap.

Without looking to refresh my memory FDred...this Friday, I do believe, is the day.

Its a pity Eastern Texas Time is five hours behind us here in the U.K...unless the court hearing begins early we will have to wait till after the weekend on Monday morning to find out how it has all gone down with his Honour.

Won't need a Judge's ruling...the s.p will tell you exactly what you need to know regarding any possible future chance for a positive outcome regarding Nanoco's claims.

Looking at the chart, the s.p at the 31st of December 2020 was £3.38...a long way from your much touted £5.50. Miles off in fact.

Without this pandemic, I very much doubt if it would even now be above £4.00.

At close of play you missed your prediction by £2.12pence. Without bothering to work it properly out, I would say that is somewhere near 40%.

Not so impressive it has to said.