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theAccountant - seems a little odd that earlier today on another chat board you stated that you were already a holder of EUA, surely you have made up your mind then as to whether you are in too late or not.....?

Appears you have a ulterior agenda here and elsewhere.

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From the Guardian

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We are at a crossroads. As the impacts of Covid-19 continue the world over and the second wave moves through Europe, we have a choice to make. Will we simply respond to the here and now, or do we take a moment to stop, look up and see beyond the horizon of this pandemic towards the next one?

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New pandemics coming every 5 years or more, some interesting comments further into the report regarding early warning in sewage and water systems.....

This is OUR space, DV can play an integral and key role in much of this, as I said earlier look what the team have already done, more than many others around the world.

Keep the faith, GB knows this arena far better than any of us, I say let him and the team at DV get on with demonstrating why we should play a leading role.

GLA

I had every faith that GB would pop back and leave a message at some point and many thanks to him for doing so.

It has been an interesting and challenging week for PIs here of course, but just for a moment think haw GB and the team feel!

Yes the presentation was poor, I hear what GB said and to an extent I agree, we don't want to be wasting money but the presentation was poor. If you have a product that could be part of a programme to lead the world economies out from the darkest days in our lifetime, then spending £30k is probably worth it. I sincerely hope that feedback has been taken on board and something more professional is utilised by the sales team when engaging major global organisations, they will want something far more polished.

Anyway, enough on that, I trust GB and the team to deliver. They must be gutted having spent all their time and energies on this product, excited and desperate to share it with us and the world and only for the SP to react in the way it did. These people have devoted a huge amount of their time and effort into trying to create something to help us all get back to some sort of 'normal' life and in my opinion should be afforded a little more praise and respect than some on here have shown.

Integumen is a relatively small team but just think about what they have produced here, it is outstanding and exceeds anything I have seen from anywhere else in the world - think about that for a moment, this is a very talented team of people and they have demonstrated what they can do when presented with a massive challenge. I take my hat off to them all.

As the dust settles and people start to see this company for what it is and what it it has to offer then I am absolutely sure the SP will recover to the levels we saw last week and beyond, since I started buying 2 years ago I have not sold 1 single share, and I added on both Thursday and Friday, increasing my average.

Keep up the great work GB, thank the team for what they have delivered, keep the news flow coming so we are kept informed and start looking for a decent production company for the next presentation.

Best wishes

A LTH

StarKnight - you are quite right, and that is JUST AVIATION!

Same can be said with huge figures attached for the cruise industry, theatres, football, indeed all sports, concerts - GLOBALLY.

I am sure the leaders within each industry would quite happily pay for a unit at or near the entry point in order for customers to have their sample checked and validated, a tiny cost if it mean't that they could re open as before, which they surely could.

Each of these areas are billion pound industries currently all collapsing and desperate for a solution which to date has failed to materialise - Microtox BT is a possible solution for them all.

When the news gets out properly they will all look at this seriously and be keen to get aboard, if we can prove concept in just one industry to help it get back on it's feet then all the others will want it very quickly.

The savings to the industries and economies would be extraordinary.

I just don't think people have properly got this yet, maybe expectations were set too high, investors chasing a quick buck and then getting spooked but strange things happened yesterday and today looks similar, I am perplexed.

Then there is the water monitoring and everything else DV has, they in themselves justify the SP and MCap presently........I am sticking around for sure.

Agreed debcashew - the Q&A are good to read and there is some interesting snippets reading between the lines re Government and commercial interest.

As I said yesterday GB just did this no favours with a poorly executed presentation, so unlike him to be fair and he seemed quite annoyed and angry when he should have been so more positive and upbeat. You can see from the questions that we didn't do a great job explaining what this is all about and that needs to be addressed.

However GB obviously knows how much interest and potential demand is out there already so perhaps just forget about yesterday and move on with the concept and product, let that do the talking now.

I think our day will come, COVID ain't going anywhere and we have to learn to live with this and other viruses in the years to come. Once you accept that, the idea of such 'vending machines' all over towns and cities is not so crazy at all, and of course as the virus changes so can the test whilst the hardware remains in place for years and years, it is kind of future proofed.

It might just be a bit much for people to accept presently, many probably believe that this will all eventually go away and we will be back to the old normal, I am less sure that will ever happen now, or dare I say be allowed to happen!

Just like 2 World Wars changed how we lived for ever, so will COVID, once the wider population has grasped that then maybe more people will see what we have here could be a big part of life going forward, a necessary part of life.

I added yesterday on the large fall, if I can release more funds today I will do so again, there are some big boys involved here ie DELL, they must see something in this to get involved, imagine if we get an RNS in a few weeks that we are in negotiation with Governments about a contract, we have a product, we know that we are talking to Governments, we also know that therefore not so hard to imagine at all!

GLA LTHs
(but not so much the traders and rainbow chasers)

I personally believe the sell off was well over done and I for one added during the day at 40p.

I remain a key supported of DeepVerge I believe the opportunities are real and large, if we can commercialise this latest development which looks likely then the prices we saw earlier today will no doubt be long behind us.

I do have to confess that I missed the live AGM however I caught up this afternoon, it was not GB's finest hour, he looked flustered and somewhat ill prepared, a bit like when your boss drops it on you 2 minutes before going into a meeting that you are doing the presentation.....he just didn't seem quite with it and then got unnecessarily agitated at one or two of the questions which I actually thought a little unprofessional.

We also saw a lot of new PIs coming in this morning looking for the easy money and I think many were spooked this afternoon leaving with losses when LTHs were adding, I should have seen that coming.

That all said, I remain a large holder and very interested to see how this develops in the weeks and months ahead, I think that when GB reflects on today and reviews the meeting performance he will know it could, and should, have gone much better and have been more polished, but I am also sure that he will fill the coming weeks with updates and news.

Bit of a horror all over the markets today, my flippin gold shares took a tumble too so had to add there as well.....

Best of luck all.

WOW, just WOW!

I mentioned yesterday that I hoped the market would be realistic as to any news, well I need not have feared, that was a remarkable RNS and I am not sure it has been truly digested yet, certainly not by the wider world outside of those 'in the know'.

GB is the master of marketing IMO, I have no concern that the news will be spread far and wide after the AGM and inevitably picked up by the media in some form or other.

I just cannot fathom how to value us now to be honest, what is a product worth which could release the economies of the world back to as close to normality as we could wish for prior to any breakthrough 'cure'?

A simple self test opens everything back up, GB will be getting Knighted at this rate - Sir Gerard Brandon....?

Get's BOJO off the hook a bit!

Great work by all at Integumen, looking forward to the news later on which really ought to push this further north. I had £1.00 target (10p in old money) for quite a while, not really considered what that is now but suffice to say I am not selling anything for quite a while yet, this could easily be ££££ in a few weeks/months.

GLA

ps - seems only yesterday I was bemoaning the SP floating between 1.5-2.0p - what a wally I was........apologies Mr B for having a few doubts back then!

just sounds like a statement made by someone who knows a deal is coming and will be concluded eventually - I guess that is what I was trying to say Calamari, I grant you may be correct in terms of timings though to be fair.

Calamari - no he doesn't, he says he will "continue to work on the sale process....securing a deal beneficial to our shareholders" - that is quite different IMO

Always interesting going back to RNS's and re reading them, so often you spot things you didn't see before or shine a light on certain things, anyway just done that......

- James Nieuwenhuys, Eurasia's CEO and Executive Director: "In my new capacity as CEO and Executive Director I will continue to work with our advisers on the sale process of the Company and its world class assets, Monchetundra and West Kytlim, leveraging my relationships made over more than 40 years in the mining industry and securing a deal beneficial to our shareholders".

It is a very definitive statement don't you think, maybe others had already read it that way, I don't think I had picked it up, but could very easily be read as a deal is very nearly over the line, seems very confident and certain a deal will take place, there are no 'ifs or maybes' in there........

earache - no rose tinted spectacles here I can assure you, however you stated "He's been moved out to the side - demoted from the Board - and is now the Mergers and Acquisitions Officer" furthermore you go onto close your post by saying "DS is out to grass" - forgive me but I take those comments as rather negative in the context in which you write them and it certainly suggested you believed it be 'forced'.

You yourself are asking for 'balanced opinion' - does that allow for opinions out with your own personal view? To merely respond in the way you have to my own opinions suggests perhaps you do not actually seek what you suggest.

I agree with the facts you have stated, and not contradicted them in any way, they are as you say, it is the interpretation of those facts where we perhaps differ.

Contrary to your view, I think it is also a fact at this stage that no one has thus far left the process unless of course you know otherwise. That is as much a fact as you stating that DS has asked to come off the Board, that is not stated anywhere, do you know that to be fact?

The RNS actually says that "The Directors have agreed to release Dmitry Suschov from the Board in order to allow him to focus as the Company's Chief M&A Officer on the M&A work streams with Eurasia's professional advisers." It does not state he asked for this you have assumed that to be the case.

My point is we clearly have differing views, that is fine, it is why we are here, we will likely not agree but it does not make you any more right or wrong than me.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do, I am here to the end.

earache - saying DS has been 'demoted from the BOD' is just silly and you are clearly trying to drive negativity.

There is no suggestion at all that this is the case, yes of course his role has changed and he has come off the Board and relinquished some responsibilities but to suggest this is a forced demotion as you do is frankly ridiculous.

He is the largest share holder in EUA with massive skin in the game, you reckon interested parties do not consider him worthy of talking too, or that he is not up to the job, come on...!

DS undoubtedly already has, and will continue to have, a huge say in what happens here.

GLG - I kind of understand your 'frustration' but perhaps the BOD have already agreed a deal in principle and therefore have no concern whatsoever with the current SP activity as it makes no difference whatsoever, it is possible.

Thank you Zoros

this simply has to move up into close, logically people will be buying, LTH will be waiting for tomorrow, cannot imagine many will be selling - the key is how it holds up tomorrow when all is revealed, I just hope expectations are sensible and realistic.

whatever happens, I have been here for 2 years or so, with a pretty large holding and an average of under 2p (20p), so I will be holding very firm and not selling a bean.

I see tomorrow as just the start, so much more to come unrelated to COVID.

GLA

Agree Sharegar, and the disclaimer regarding 'no guarantee of a sale' has been removed from the last 2 RNS's also, as has the direct reference to NN processing facilities being close by to MT, these things are not excluded for no good reason, they have to be carefully considered to be put in any communication, and equally considered to be taken out IMO.

Maybe the 'other' possible buyers were unhappy that NN kept getting a direct mention...just a thought.

It is also clear we have 'several' interested parties, and at this stage, some 12 weeks in, not one has removed themselves from the process, if they had I believe, like with AA, we would have had some form of notification.

As has been mentioned numerous times, maybe that is because they are ALL involved in some way, each taking a bit of the pie!

GLA

Are we not due a TR1 today unless they have not finished buying?