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I think it is starting to say, quite apart from the disease control aspect, that as foreign ships, with a large percentage of foreign crew and foreign passengers on holiday, you cannot expect to take advantage of American taxpayer resources. You must provide effective onboard health services and incorporate the potential overall cost of disease management within your commercial business model,

I would say American authorities will be expecting to see Cruise lines satisfactorily clear up all existing shipboard outbreaks, repatriation, etc., before considering lifting the order under whatever new requirements are imposed upon them.

Comment on '100 day order' and CDC-required plan.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/cdc-cruise-ship-no-sail-order/

I have just been reading that consumers aspirations have changed and that whereas fully managed cloud only was seen as the ultimate goal, it is now hybrid IT - a choice foreseen by Castleton. https://www.housing-technology.com/a-private-journey-to-the-cloud/

Nevertheless, there has been an opportunity to go with the flow on a degree of optimism surrounding Covid, warranted or not. When in Rome.........

They can and will be doing things. But fundamentally it remains a question of liquidity over an unknown time period.

Bald Eagle. Your assumption cannot be faulted, as a best case safety scenario for travellers, and therefore Carnival and ' the authorities.' As you agree, the availability and timing is unknown, and in 12 months ( perhaps minimum to vaccine, with roll-out on top ) it appears the leisure company will be decidedly moving onto its uppers. On your entirely reasonable opinion, the company will then struggle to survive. But you know that.

On a lighter note, NYSE just closed +6.5%.

It should be obvious that there is no business without ships sailing. The passage of time, rather than anything else, is likely their biggest enemy. On existing arrangements they give themselves 12 months survival. On that there is no change. The company cannot forecast what will happen, or when. Nor can we, though we can each have a guess and bet on it, or not.

The shares will be issued at 8dollars - roughly the price now in the US and it is below that in the UK. It is dilutive and well publicised. Who do you think will be keen to sell below 8 dollars, or even less in UK.?

I am not trying to judge their culpability or otherwise for yet to be heard cases, on unknown bases at present. But they need to know. It all takes time is my point.

It does not really matter what Trump or anyone else thinks or does. No matter if there is a clamouring for cruising, in the end, subject to law and advice, internationally in some cases, it will be a decision for the company to make, and will be risk-based. The outcome of the many law-suits and the extent to which Carnival may or may not be culpable will inform that decision. I simply think that we are in the early days of a lengthy process.

Health checks may become the norm for cruising in the medium term. Who knows? I have family in different parts of the US, historically staunch Republicans. They believe Trump has been good for the country, economy, shaking up a form of paralysis and hide out no thinking. But they are seriously concerned that he sees his electoral appeal as based on the economy, and that restricts his actions on corona virus, and welfare. But it is true to say he still commands support, there not being much in the way of competition. There is disquiet about what is being seen there as 'domestic bullying.'

That may be, though I wonder when these cruisers booked. Individuals will have their own views. Carnival will have theirs, and perhaps the risk of putting to sea at an earlier stage is a greater risk to their business in the longer term. And there is the international element of being permitted let alone welcomed to consider. I have flights booked - the earliest to America in July. I hope it will be cancelled - I have no intention of taking it. My view may not be typical, though I believe it will resonate with many.

American pre-open rise now halved and dropping.

There is more than one way of looking at it, and MRI see value, but on balance and taking Castleton's large customer base and established position as an innovative and responsive market leader into account, housing associations may see merit in an accessible UK incorporated 'housing only' business, rather than a cog in the wheel of a larger diversified American entity.

If the data showing is correct, very early signs it may open quite improved there today.

You are correct. It goes up and down and this afternoon may do the same.

My thoughts are that the price will move when the terms are announced, settle somewhere, and then likely stick until covid receded and cruises resume. One has to bear in mind as I mentioned that credit card issuers will undoubtedly retain much of the advance payments for cruises until they decide their own risk is diminishing.

https://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail/CLCO/14484113.html