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Oldblue: It would be nice if you actually reasoned, I'm happy to be proven wrong and to further my education and experiences of life. I would be happy to buy into this share if there was ANY reason to think it could work and become a world class product but all reason says no. I am not part of a deramping crew, I doubt there are any on AIM. World, national and local issues seem to throw up enough challenges or opportunities without having to artificially ramp or deramp shares. Most talk on any board seems to stem from a lack of communication from the companies themselves allowing rife speculation in both directions. The real rampers and derampers are the boards of directors and the cosy relationships with the big investment organisations, keeping truths to themselves to line their bulging pockets.
Virtually every board I've been on, the PI bemoans the lack of communication. UKOG seems to be a classic case, again I have followed that share with half an eye to buying in but the cagey and shortage of decent information stopped me; another win for me I won't be buying in now.

Oldblue: By my reckoning this thing is hotter than a pizza oven. I reckon the waste heat needs to keep the hot end of the Stirling engine at about 1000 C to get 71% efficiency ..... phew.

I think steel melts about 1400 C. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Oldblue: Somebody is lying and I don't think it's me. Unfortunately for us we have to rework the previous calculation because, as you can see from the RNS below, improvements to the efficiencies pushed the output up to 6.4 kW. So perhaps you could run through the figures because I get stuck at the bit where the 4.5 kW of waste heat produces 6.4 kW out. I’m sure you have a simple answer to that, most of your answers are.

RNS 26 April 2019
“The above improvements and efficiencies have provided the Charger with peak electrical output in excess of 6.4kW of electricity during a running cycle of 2,000 hours against the unit's previous output of 3.0kW, whist maintaining 15kW thermal output and a 20% reduction in the size of the appliance to below 800mm”

NOTE: The 6.4 kW out is simply a result of ‘improved efficiencies’ this is a truly remarkable feat to improve the output 100%. Tweak this tweak that, oh look I get double the output!
Also in the RNS above they seem to have forgotten that the Charger was producing 3.2 kW as per the RNS below, two years earlier !

RNS 18 July 2017
To this end, improvements to the design of the Company's Stirling engine technology, including simplification as part of the 'design for manufacture' ("DFM") process, have resulted in a peak electrical output in excess of 3.2kW of electricity against the unit's benchmark output of 3.0kW, whilst maintaining the same fuel input and heat output.
I love a Sunday

Wonder what temperature is required at 71% efficiency ?

As for claiming 6.4 kW out I'll leave that for the fairies to figure out !

Oldblue: The waste heat/energy is turned into electricity, there is no doubting that, it is stated by Inspirit. That is the entire reason for building the charger - to make use of waste heat from the boiler. After you've burned 20 kW of gas and created 15 kW of hot water there is 5 kW of energy somewhere, I don't see that being in doubt. They state the boiler is 75%. Now that gets turned into 3.2 kW of electricity .... seems quite simple up to now. But it's not 5 kW is it, because I very much doubt of all of that 5 kW waste can be applied to the input of the Stirling engine. Lets just say, for the sake of a good argument/discussion, 4.5 kW actually goes into the Stirling. The calculation is then 3.2 kW (Inspirit figure) out for 4.5 kW in = 71% Far too high to believe. Total loss in the system 0.5 kW + (4.5 - 3.2) = 1.8 kW. Now that's interesting because at one time they claimed total boiler efficiency of 92%.

So they must be claiming a Stirling engine efficiency of approximately 71% ............................... better go buy me some shares, that is fantastic! But hang on my mate Oldblue says

"your wrong again let me give you a hint typical efficency off a stirling engine 15-30% but then you just deliver pizzas"

Damnation who do I believe, Inspirit or Oldblue ?

PS: The actual Stirling engine efficiency would be slightly higher than 71% because the mechanical work of the engine is then turned into electricity via the alternator this has some losses also.

Show us the goods John Gunn. Show something, anything to show these people have had their money well spent.

Show us the team, hard at work !
Show us the Polish facility you've set up
Show us the Charger

There must be something for 10 years supposed hard work ?

23 December 2019:

With the continued growth demand for electric cars, the board are currently setting up an automotive division to utilise the sterling engine to provide a source of power to charge electric motor cars.

They have produced nothing to show in 10 years. Somehow I don't think this is going to happen soon.

15 June 2015:
The verification unit is currently being assembled at the Company's Sheffield development facility and, following final in-house testing, will be shipped to the independent international consultants, Enertek International Ltd ("Enertek") (www.enertekinternational.com) for testing conformance with the European Gas Appliance Directive. Enertek specialise in product research, design, development and certification. The purpose of this testing is to accredit the unit for field trial deployment in a commercial, potential customer setting, outside of a laboratory environment.

And the outcome was ?????????

15 March 2016:
John Gunn, Chairman and CEO of Inspirit, commented, "The challenge for the Company in 2016 is to complete the testing and field trial phases and move towards commercial production of the Inspirit Charger by the end of the year. The results of our in-house trials over the past 12 months have given us a great deal of confidence that this schedule will be adhered to .....

Over 4 years ago now, says it all !!!!!!

Oldblue: As you state " but again we have no proper stuff from inspirit but this would be my bestie"

Why is there no decent information from Inspirit? Why is there no information whatsoever from them?

Oldblue: you write "your wrong again let me give you a hint typical efficency off a stirling engine 15-30%
but then you just deliver pizzas"

So you agree with me the Charger cannot be giving 3 kW from 5 kW waste heat as stated in their RNS 15 June 2015. Otherwise it means their Stirling engine is 60% efficient and that is too good to believe.

Old blue: Could you read your posts and correct them before posting please. We all make mistakes but I find it hard work reading yours.

Oldblue: Hahahahahahaha.... What do you laugh at? The 60% efficiency? The 3 kW from 5 kW of waste heat? Tell us all which bit is wrong then everyone can have a good laugh.

RNS 15 June 2015:
... A prototype of the appliance has been independently tested and shown to be capable of simultaneous generation of up to 15kW thermal and up to 3kW electrical output...

Oldblue: From yours

"again this states assuming max gas flow off 20kw that 15kw heat 3 kw power 2 kw losses (assumed) for an efficency off
wait for it 90% ......not perpetual afetr all but not bad"

So from your figures 3 kW from 5 kW waste heat the Stirling engine is 60% efficient minimum .............. preposterous

RNS 26 April 2019:

...The above improvements and efficiencies have provided the Charger with peak electrical output in excess of 6.4kW of electricity during a running cycle of 2,000 hours against the unit's previous output of 3.0kW, whist maintaining 15kW thermal output.

6.4 kW _ 15 kW = 21.4 kW ????????????????????????????????????????????

Supposedly simultaneous output as stated for the previous 9 years ????????????????????

Oldblue: How can you explain when the company has written in black and white the energy balance you write of. They say the Charger delivered 6.4 kW of electricity and 15 kW thermal energy from 20 kW. It is not me but Inspirit that claims perpetual energy. There is no need for insults, unless of course that's all you can come up with.

Oldblue: The word simultaneous doesn't appear in your answer, as I previously stated " It eventually ended up being a SIMULTANEOUS output of 15 kW thermal and 6.4 kW electrical for 20 kW in" This what Inspirit touted for years SIMULTANEOUS. Concentrate very hard on that word and consider what its meaning is.

It is obvious that the simultaneous figures were impossible. How can you believe that this device has undergone thousands of hours testing and by third parties - I find that impossible to believe, the whole concept of how the device worked would be in doubt if the technical director was bandying those figures around.

So if you can only get so much electricity out for so much thermal how does the prospective purchaser decide if the device is worth buying. I have no heating on at home at the moment. With an Inspirit charge supplying my electricity I would be burning gas inefficiently, at 15% according to Inspirit, to watch my tele, run my computer, fridges, freezers, lighting etc. How much electricity do I get in the winter when I have my radiators on full blast ? Presumably it is the minimum 1kW ?
That is why I say the device is not viable and that is why I believe the device has never been seen in action.

Oldblue: The energy in and energy figures were stated on the Inspirit web site for years. It eventually ended up being a SIMULTANEOUS output of 15 kW thermal and 6.4 kW electrical for 20 kW in. Go and look at RNS statements.

Now after the web site was changed, the simultaneous reference disappeared. Considering the many thousands of hours testing and independent testing, supposedly, not a single one noticed the device was producing 21.4 kW out but with only 20 kW going in - unbelievable. Every child knows that cannot happen.