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Morning SoG, whilst I agree with your comments regarding various economic "situations" there is no dialogue of consequence from the BoD despite all the murmurings by Tim at the AGM - for all we know SRA737 has been licensed out to Mickey Mouse, no datelines nothing, find it incredulous!
If the BoD really did have shareholder value as an aim, why can't cant Stephen Parker release a statement confirming current status of Oz trials even if to say they are on schedule instead of leaving us guessing and subject to MM "abuse", explain how the RF package will be resolved and what do they expect from the SAR license - not too difficult!!
So if you are reading this Stephen, no more fobbing off from SAR please, let's get proactive on the marketing front and let's forget all the clandestine secrecy that Tim conveniently keeps hiding behind - it's our Company as much as his!
Yes, one very frustrated lth!
GLA
Good on you Clive and here's to an enjoyable retirement!
A languid start by the BoD to 2024, given the "take on board" responses at the AGM - the Q&A publication didn't really answer any question in detail, yes good SRA 737 is back in action, but, do we really know what's going on? JP Morgan conference, nothing!
Lets hope that after the freeze and the BoD come out of hibernation and they remember we are in trials in Oz, some of the statements they made at the AGM and indeed in the Q&A and start actioning some of them especially on PR/IR comments made by Hassan and myself - I still smile at the answer to Question 24, you can see why the BoD prefer the Investor Meets, their answers don't get challenged.
Hopefully, we will continue to progress well on the data side and the sp begins to reflect that status - once again all the best in your retirement!
GLA
Morning HBD - Ha ha, yep that's made me laugh and shows the camouflage of the bb!!
Reread the postings of yesterday and those of yourself, Num4, C79 and Laz2 remind me why I invested in Sareum - enjoy the weekend.
GLA
Lazurus2 a very reasoned summary regarding cash flow pathway which given that the person who introduced the HNWI's was in attendance at the AGM, along with an influential broker of Sareum shareholders along with funding access gives me confidence that the "Step by Step" approach I mentioned previously is "live" - obviously, subject to continued progression of the science!
Great postings today, by I think fair to say genuine Sareum shareholders!!
GLA
ps Citizen79 visiting your neck of the woods on Thursday Rose and Crown Pilgrims Hatch for lunch - been recommended!
Something that appears to have been overlooked is that Sareum now has a known definitive pathway for both 1801 and SRA737 subject to the normal caveats of successful trial progress - this may be the catalyst for interest in further investment by HNWI's and/or the analyst at Peel Hunt to promote to institutions - new investment could pay off the RF facility and promote a reasoned rerate of sp in 2024 sooner than some think - there are many scenarios to be considered if there is successful progress!!
Step by Step but DYOR
GLA
Well I don't think too many expected yesterday's RNS, especially those claiming SRA737 was a dead duck and now seeing it as our way forward!
What is intriguing, we can now see why at the AGM Tim and John appeared so sheepish on the criticism, myself included in thE lack of update - that was only 9 trading days ago!! - so credit where credit is due - Oz trials and now SRA737 relicensed via CPF
Appears PR/IR has picked up as well, key will be it's continuation and HBD's post regarding Edison report is now a benchmark for future improvement - I also note FT has reconfirmed £3.04 sp forecast by 2025.
I came away from the AGM with a few snippets that sit nicely under the heading above - Pascal who introduced the HNWI's to Sareum, said we need to look at US for investment, a brief conversation with a respected poster on here tied in very similar to postings by SOG and Luton yesterday and as Silverfoil pointed out the coffee post AGM the talking point was data by a gentleman who oversees a heavily invested client base in Sareum, it is his phrase I use as a header above.
Yes RF is a burden, but, it is what is and hopefully the data will outrun it, after all, never has the "SCIENCE" been more important.
Wish you all the best for 2024!
GLA
Hi HBD
Interestingly, your point is very much on my radar given the response I had from Tim and Stephen regarding SRA737 updates being "we didn't think it necessary but note your comments" at the AGM and dare I say the PR/IR responses "your valid points on marketing are noted" - I will write to all involved at Sareum over the next couple of days and ask how a compound of which they own 27.5% can progress without any knowledge for them to update their shareholders - prime opportunity to do what they said at the AGM, not just nod heads and update on where we actually are with everything - of course, if they read the bb as is alleged, they may issue some form of update in the meantime - who knows?
Best wishes to all for 2024, and could to see Sad back on the bb!
GLA
hi carter, i think you may have misunderstood my meaning - in reference to fearg's comment, i was merely clarifying imo that you come away from the agm with a clearer picture in your mind - the bb just gets muddled as people have their own "****ging" matches, and hence, the catalyst to the caustic climate that mafuta refers to.
there are some great posters on this bb, whose opinions get lost once the baiting (from both sides) starts.
i didn't expect much from the agm yesterday in the way of "earth shattering" updates, i was surprised by mr. smith's opening statement as probably were the bod, but, as i said it set the agenda and it enabled most of the "contentious" topics to be aired.
read my two postings regarding agm attendance alongside siverfoil and gunner's comments together with the video link, i don't think there is anything being withheld that isn't in the public domain - as i've stated in the past, i can't "do" the science research like say sog, citizen79,hbd etc... but, i can go to the agm and give an honest appraisal which i'm happy to share on this bb.
hope that clears any suggestion that what gets said "on tour stays on tour" ;-)
good weekend all
gla
For me the benefit of attending the AGM is you're actually mixing with a cross section of investors who all bring a valued take to the table, you may not necessary agree with all but when you're in conversation with equity funders who meet with Sareum, people associated with the introduction of HNWI's, PR marketing people and dare I say the BoD together with some valued fellow bb investors you gain a broad oversight of the share you have invested in.
Attendance doesn't change where we are in either science and/or sp, but, it does allow you the chance to discuss in a rationale manner both the good and the not so good!
Post formal meeting, ICR and Hybrian both engaged in dialogue regarding the criticism of PR/IR, Tim and John were available to discuss science, our status clear in the AGM statement and for all the flak he receives Stephen faced the obvious "financials".
One thing that did stand out for me was the subject of a succession plan, which was mentioned in last year's AGM but not this year other than informally it is still a discussion point and was continued amongst ourselves when a number of us went for coffee afterwards - all hypothetical at this stage!
Read Silverfoil 13's earlier comments on post discussions with Stephen, a very accurate review (ps Silver, nice win for WHU thanks!) - that's what is gained from the AGM and I suppose you just feel clearer with things rather than some of the chattering's between some posters on this bb, some of whom you don't know are even invested.
That's my final take on things from yesterday's meeting.
@SOG, hope you are well as I was hoping to meet up you yesterday.
GLA
Agree, the only reference to P1b was the enhanced values, there is nothing to stop the BoD taking a valuation point at the end of P1a and deciding it's viability and financial merits.
Some people, just chasing the status of I got it right on this bb - there's a multitude of scenarios out there for the Bod from both failure to success - may not even involve the current incumbents, now there's food for thought!
Firstly, I think a thanks to Mr Smith for requesting to read his statement which certainly set the tone for the "open discussion".
Fair to say, the BoD were sheepish in their responses and left in no doubt that the lack of communication and financial management is not acceptable to current shareholders - that said everybody can be clever in hindsight!
From a personal point of view, I can only work with what I see and that is 1801 trials continue to progress in Oz, 737 is quite clearing in the hands of CPF and the next 6 months is our critical axis - currently, I don't see positive proactiveness from the BoD in both PR/IR and trust the nods of "we take on board" are more than just nods!
As I stated in the meeting, the BoD can't change the past, but, they can learn from the mistakes made and up their game - I've made my feelings known today and no point continuing to keep on about it, it's time for the BoD to reflect on today's criticisms, make decisions and act accordingly going forward.
If they do and we get positive data results communicated "professionally" to the market, I see a share price recovery - and 737 can also fall in at anytime.
Good to meet Silverfoil and Gunner 68 for the first time along with previous attendees some of whom are very heavily invested in this little old share!!
@HBD hope you picked up my question to Dr. Owen and his response regarding CPF connection.
GLA
Hi HBD
Good specific questions, that deserve the courtesy of an answer. I have just returned from some time in Cornwall and intend to be at the AGM tomorrow.
Look forward to meeting up with any others who likewise are attending!
GLA
I think RF will start to look at deal with more commercial acumen and interest given the progress to date with trials, if things continue to progress well they can sell into a rising sp or alternatively look at the the warrants at £1.43.
To date there has been no release of what they have sold, so lot's of guesswork (unless inside information is known) on what their intentions are, my own thoughts above included!
@Citizen79 typical WHU, always putting us through it, as you said, a win is a win!!
GLA
hope all good with citizen 79, great read and thanks for sharing - and to the subsequent comments by others to this thread.
applied for my letter of representation to attend agm, hopefully, see some of you there!
enjoying ****nal this evening, fingers crossed same for "the hammers" tomorrow!!
gla
Hi good to hear from you both.
As you're probably aware, I was fortunate enough to get to the AGM last year via Epping and the underground - I think the BoD were in a state of shock given the MHRA debacle and the continuous wait for SRA737.
I thought the reaction in getting trials to Australia was great and lets hope they continue to progress. On the matters of SRA737 update, reason why Funding route is best option, lack of comment by PH and our IR department I feel the BoD need to up their communication with shareholders to say the least - even if it is only to simply state data back from SO is confirmed in order and passed to CPF for evaluation of progress with interested third parties.
I intend to be at AGM as prefer the face to face conversations and hopefully see you there!!
GLA
Good evening Citizen79, all fine and trust likewise for yourself and family - a small world, as Brentwood area was very much part of my Missus's and my world in our early days:- first ski lessons on the dry slope at Warley, drives out to the then Headley Arms and Alma Arms and our second house was nearly in Priest's Lane, Shenfield (fell through so we bought a plot of land just outside Great Dunmow and built a house as you do!!).
Still visit the area for a game of golf with friends down that way either at Hartswood or Brentwood - maybe catch you for a pint one day and a chinwag!
Apologies to all for the off topic posting!
GLA
Thanks Krone and Basser for info, great research as Lazurus states, fingers crossed!
@HBD genuine mistake, keep posting fella.
@Citizen79 picked up during my reading of posts, you walk the dew covered fields of Essex, what part, I "emigrated" from Dagenham to Great Dunmow area!!
GLA