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Not hanging about and looks like several will be imminently travelling through the diplomatic channels into Saudi Arabia, if not already. Zelenskyy also travelling but won't be engaging with the Russians.

"Volodymyr Zelenskyy could arrive as early as Tuesday evening, but has no plans to meet with Russian officials, a source said.

It comes as US and Russian diplomats prepare to hold talks in the capital Riyadh tomorrow. Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov and US secretary of state Marco Rubio are among those set to be involved."

https://news.sky.com/story/russia-moscow-shooting-latest-ukraine-islamic-state-live-sky-news-blog-12541713

The fact they sprung the immediacy of the Saudi talks on everyone out of nowhere says to me there is far more going on here than is being let on. Don't forget there was also mention of Peace plan offered to Zelenski mid last week and a loose plan for how they want things to progress and pan out. For me the issues from previous talks and the stumbling blocks have already been researched and discussed in advance and both leaders now seem to be set on concluding this off without any more massive loss to young life.

No doubt there will be customary swings but dare anyone be out.

Donald J is going about it entirely differently from the previous Erdogan talks so I'm backing his approach and am hoping it continues to build into "the talks".

I'm going to enjoy the day and wait for next developments.

The first of the American delegation should have arrived in Saudi Arabia

"Secretary of State Marco Rubio, national security adviser Mike Waltz and Middle East special envoy Steve Witkoff plan to head to Saudi Arabia to initiate negotiations toward peace between Russia and Ukraine, two sources familiar with the matter told NBC News.

Witkoff told Fox News' "Sunday Morning Futures" that he is traveling to Saudi Arabia with Waltz on Sunday night."

Kellog was off to Ukraine next after Munich,

So an interesting week ahead.

Trumps made billions through a no nonsense approach and has rapport and leverage over both Zelenski and Putin.

Everybody can pay much more if or imvho when we get to phone calls and meets between leaders.

Involve those required, when they are required.

Not interested in side show politics WATF. Cut out the wheat from the chaff and lets get things done.

Peace = full production = full profitability.

It matters not how we progress or get there so long as we do.

WATF. No botched intervention in Ukraine peace talks. Just cutting out the talking shops that have delayed things and taken 3 years.

Trump will deliver imvho and then all can clamour for the share price then.

Saudi talks a massive move forward and lots going on we don't know about.

GL

Excellent news on the move to peace talks in Saudi this week and a swift development which has probably caught several out. Trump and he US are serious and determined to deliver a Peace deal and are not interested in delays and it all seems to be following the plan of getting to a phone call taking place between Putin and Zelenski and a meeting of them both and aiming for the end of the month as some have suggested. Throw in a ceasefire somewhere along the way and a peace deal.

Our is not to reason on who is involved and at what stage but rather but to get to a peace deal and things just fast forwarded at the weekend on that front.

Forgot the link

https://www.thetimes.com/world/europe/article/russia-ukraine-war-munich-security-conference-latest-news-ht9rn9s0b

Here's probably why Andreii Sybiha, The Ukranian Minister of Foreign Affairs was "more positive" and made mention of "so many developments". Perhaps one of them courtesy of The Times

"1 hour ago

8.49pm

US invites Zelensky to Saudi negotiation

President Zelensky of Ukraine has been invited to join peace talks with Russian negotiators in Saudi Arabia, a US congressman has said.

Senior officials from Donald Trump’s administration will travel to Saudi Arabia next week to begin the talks with Russian and Ukrainian negotiators.

Michael McCaul, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said it was his understanding that Zelensky had been invited to participate. He said the talks were aimed at arranging a meeting with Trump, President Putin and Zelensky “to finally bring peace and end this conflict”.

Get the Russia / Ukraine side of things sorted then in come Security guarantee talks once something accepatble is agreed by both sides. No point wasting time otherwise and to be fair Security guarantees had a lot of groundwork done on it at the time of the Erdogan, Turkey peace talks. Just my own view, others will have differing views.

After reading that Guardian article earlier I'm sure there is some form of framework deal there that has been presented to Ukraine and this Munich conference has kicked off the diplomacy side with views being canvassed and seeing peoples reactions, and then tweaking things accordingly and don't forget that we learned that key Russian, Ukranian and US officials were all at Geneva to get talks moving. What we the public are seeing is the side show imvho

You need to read what I said WATF. Russia / Ukraine and US as moderators only for the Russia / Ukraine agreed details but absolutely involve the EU if Security guarantees involving EU countries are involved.

Kellog not giving much away at this point in time but its abundantly clear that something positive has been said to Andreii Sybiha, The Ukranian Minister of Foreign Affairs for the Moderator Sarah Kelly picked up on his demeanour and quizzed him on it and his comments were that he was "more confident" and put it down to "so many developments"...

Some other interesting comments particularly re both sides having to give up aspiration, and sanctioning those ghost petro ships with oil and gas. Did anybody also catch mention of the summit on Monday amidst the discussion with the Polish Minister of Foreign Affairs?

Lots of backroom diplomacy and bun fights going on for sure @Munich and people trying to advance their positions, The Americans, Zelenski and European leaders - and to arrive at a solution.

Need the EU be involved in any discussions? Personal opinion No - Not really as the main peace agreement needs to be done between Ukraine and Russia. At the point of Security Guarantees being required then if EU countries are needed and or US, then involve. Same also if Rare Earths as payment for past involvement are considered. But the EU doesn't need to be privy to the negotiations on establishing the keypoints that Ukraine and Russia will settle on.

Interesting article and in it for me two new things:

1. It mentions a peace deal was offered to Zelenski on Wednesday

2. Secondly it mentions Macron hosting a swift meeting of EU leaders as early as tomorrow to discuss things. For me this was the most important bit of the full Munich Security Conference - as it was about getting the EU to "Buy into" the Peace Plan.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/15/europe-will-not-take-part-in-us-russia-talks-ukraine-kellogg

Lets see what Keith Kellogs Plan suggests.

Up at the lecturn at 6.15p on Saturday (EU time).

"Peace through Strength: A Plan for Ukraine"

Couple of other splinter meetings of interest and relevance throughout the 3 days with Zelenski there also, but I suspect the real business will be taking place behind the scenes and outside the public gaze. Hopefully some leaks and detail emerging over the weekend from the press and Donald J..

https://securityconference.org/assets/user_upload/MSC2025_Agenda_Website.pdf

Shabz83 I think the way this is being made to move gently back and forth that any FTSE250 inclusion may come right down to the wire and with ultimately the City grandees deciding who gets let in.

It would just be our luck if it made the cut for inclusion this time around only for for Moulding and all his other CEO's to deliver another poor trading update and for them then to get moved out again on the next quarterly review.

Fingers crossed we make the cut.

Moniman being as you now seem to be an oracle on here recently can I ask you another couple of questions.

After the Ingenuity designation and the use of the B shares and with them consequently being converted into D1 shares can you explain why it is at least a year from the Ingenuity demerger completion date before these are actually cancelled?

The second and third question that follows is that I know they have no voting rights and are effectively worthless but should they not just have been cancelled straight away? and might the fact they were not promptly cancelled be causing in part of the present drag on the share price?

To a wider audience, has anybody ever sought or had clarity on this?

Moniman no subtle FUD about it or intended, just a perfectly valid question.

Wood Group actively and positively having looked at this and having done something about it given underperformance. Or perhaps you would prefer underperformance to be rewarded?

Please do think before you post.

Sergio I don't come with any political history or carry any baggage so just looking objectively at things from an FXPO company and share price perspective and amidst current events.

I'd second physicals comments though on laying off on spread betting, CFD's, Derivatives and essentially betting with leverage. Holding actual physical shares and always having some powder dry I find lets you sleep better at night and with no margin calls.

GL.

Another company that turned down takeover approaches thinking the Mgt could do better and a nose dive this morning on what seems to be a perceived poor trading update.

I did read this though amidst it all

"o Actions taken to mitigate weaker-than-expected trading in Q4, including cancelling executive and employee bonuses and actively managing working capital at year end"

Will we be seeing the same @THG?

Coldspy there is no trying to steal FXPO as far as I can see and it would never happen, more constancy of obstacles with these ficticious court cases none of which have ever stick or make it to court, and the the latest being individual sanctions against Zhevago himself. But in return he has had his own reasoned and logical say which people can view for themselves below on the link and make their own mind up on. No FXPO RNS on the subject either.

Meanwhile more current and pertinent, Munich, and many key players present.

Trump never told us that the Russians and Ukranians would both be present at the same time. Makes sense though if Keith Kellog is there.

You sense a willingness to end 3 years of bloodshed and destruction and loss of innocent young lives and to get an acceptable solution for all that resets a lot of wiser economies back on course. Nobody will get all they wish that's been realistically stated by the US imvho so the key for all will be to gain something that portrays a win win out of negotiations. For me President Zelenski gets Security guarantees and a pathway to the EU. Putin gets most of the East that would never be won back, No Ukraine Nato, probably elections and also Rare Earth minerals. Reconstruction / reparation monies and what Ukraine occupies in Russia presently negotiating chips.

Hopefully from FXPO's point of view delivering a Ceasefire and an agreed Peace Plan and letting us get back to full production and profitability.

Trump the best prospect on that front in 4 years and with good rapport with all parties and successful negotiating skills as a businessman, and with levers he can pull.

Your money, your choice. My money my choice. Dyor.

So Ukraine and Russian officials both in attendance as well as the US for discussions, (and most of the key EU decision makers for Kellog / Trumps Peace Plan).

Moving faster than we had thought.