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Vas - you may well have been on AIM for some time but that has no relevance to ZOE. How much due diligence did you do exactly?

You have stated that you are invested so let me ask you a question or two:-

What research did you do before you invested?
What were the things about ZOE that encouraged you to invest?
What has changed since you invested?
Did you listen to the company presentation last year and subsequent interviews with the CEOs, Eric Schrader and John Story?
Have you considered asking the CEOs directly for answers to the questions you have? They are very accommodating and reply to investors.

You come across (if you are actually invested) as someone that is suffering from buyer's remorse. If you are asking these questions now and they are important to you then maybe ask yourself why you didn't look for the answers before you invested.
You can of course just sell up and move on if you have too many doubts

silly billy - I think you overlooked (probably deliberately) a key part of the deal.
"The Company also retains the right to specify a minimum acceptable price during the pricing period" so any dip in the SP does not automatically mean greater dilution as you insinuate.
LDA Capital will also be party to more information than the general investor so when the first draw down happens it will be a good indicator of how they see progress if we haven't received an update by that point.

Well if you'd rather spend your time reading the drivel over there good luck to you.
I don't give much credence to anything on BB's and prefer to listen to what the company says.
There are many agendas in play here and everywhere and you'll worry yourself to an early grave if you believe everything you read.
If you're worried then no-one is stopping you from selling up.
I'm not sure quite why you felt the need to advertise that on here though....

Not understanding is unfortunately more a reflection of you than of them - everyone has their own strategy and who's to say there's not a better "dead cert" that they want to invest in?

I'm not disagreeing that the SP MAY continue to go up but it may also pull back a bit. If you are invested for the long game it's not really that relevant. I haven't sold any but that's not to say my strategy is right and someone else's is wrong. You seem to state as fact that those invested will get "loads more next month" when no-one knows what may happen. Believe what you want but please do not state what you think (or rather hope for) as fact. Your account here is just over 6 months old and maybe you haven't been around long enough but there are no dead certs in investing and those who are longer in the tooth have seen the unexpected happen on plenty of occasions. You may not remember a successful oil strike one day turning to water the next so don't count your chickens. Have your own strategy but don't judge others because they may have a different one.

Stewartboy - If I had a pound for every post I've seen where posters state categorically that the SP is only going up I would have a lot of pounds. SP's don't rise day after day forever. You don't KNOW it will continue to go up as none of us do. It may well pull back tomorrow and if so those that sold read the market well and may be able to buy in lower. Many people's investing strategies will differ from yours (of course everyone wants to make a profit) but that doesn't make them wrong. If someone sold here to put their money into a share that goes up 75% tomorrow are they wrong in listening to your advice to hold their shares here? You stick to your strategy and don't worry about what others do or judge them as somehow inferior.

Amran - I'm not sure that CBX over-hyped it. I would point the finger at a number of posters here that got caught up in the excitement, bought on the initial spike and spent weeks spouting misinformation in order to get out with their shirts on their backs.
The company could do well but it will be entering a playing field populated by more and more suppliers. The reality is that they don't have the celebrity endorsement of DB (despite what many constantly state as fact) and don't really have anything unique at this moment (there are plenty of synthetic CBD suppliers, companies with special serum products and a number of companies targeting the sports market). At this point in time we don't know what the branding will be and have no idea of where it will be sold.
Jacksdad states that first estimates are for 250,000 customers (which he says is conservative) - where are those estimates from and what are they based on? That sounds very rampy to me and when statements like that are made they need to be backed up otherwise they carry no weight.
The danger is that people's expectations at the moment are too great for where the company is. Calls for RNS releases and revenues show a lack of understanding as the company does not yet have products. This is an early stage and patience should be rewarded - those hoping to make a quick buck now have missed the boat if they didn't get their IPO allocation. The old adage of sell in May and go away could be very apt here as it's unlikely that there will any major rises or falls in the SP for a while yet.

Billy - if you don't want to invest at this point in time I won't lose any sleep. If you want to do your own research (maybe contact the CEOs with your questions - they are always happy to engage) and decide that it's not right for you then that's fine. There are plenty of companies that I haven't researched and have done (and will do) very well over the next few years. There are companies that I have researched in great detail that haven't done well. Welcome to the world of investing. It's your money and your choice whether to invest or not and 99.9% of people here couldn't care less whether you do or don't. If you want to poke the hornets nest then you probably won't get much joy or response here - these boards are not the place to do your research as there are many agendas and you would never take advice in the real world from a total stranger. Good luck with your investment choices.

Billy - I'll share a couple of posts that are as relative today as when I posted them:-

30/09/2020 (SP 24.5p): I have to chuckle a bit at the bickering that goes one here - if people believe it is worth 10p and going to crash then that's fine but why turn it into a battle? No-one knows what the future holds but I for one feel that this is the beginning of some very exciting times. I invested here back in the days when grapheast was posting and I was excited about the potential of DTU. I watched the SP rise from around 13p to 70p and then lived with it crumbling back down to 5p. I watched the business change from oil to what I considered the beginning of the end when it went to cannabis growing. I actually bought more below 10p and have a substantial holding that I am more excited about now than at any previous point when it was HNR. I'm not sure what the future holds here but the steady rise in SP is great news and I believe it's really the beginning of something special. If you don't believe in the company and don't want to be part of it then why the need to aggressively fight posters here and talk the company down? If you feel that your posts affect the SP grow up as these BB's really have little or no effect on the SP. Your lives will be much better channelling your energies into something positive. For those that do believe in what may happen good luck and enjoy the ride - I believe that come this time next year we will all be shiny happy people

29/10/2020 (SP 41.75p):Having watched the presentation yesterday I am genuinely excited in a way that I haven't been in over 20 years of investing. This is no ordinary company and we are lucky enough to be part of something special that doesn't come around too often
For those of you that didn't see the presentation (and for those of you that did here's a reminder) our two CEOs started off with a very personal introduction about their backgrounds and shared their business principles. Worth understanding:-

Do the right thing
Build relationships with partners that are either passionate , consistent or highly skilled ....preferably all three!
Surround yourself with people better than you
Winners never stop
Seek and find genuine people, avoid all the rest
Don't do business with A-holes! Life is too short

Our CEO's aren't conventional - they aren't suit-wearing conformists and aren't interested in saying what they think we want hear. They say it straight. They are a breath of fresh air. They have a passion for what they do and have industry-leading experience and knowledge. Rather than rushing to make a quick buck they have concentrated on getting everything right to ensure that what we have is the best and is sustainable. They have watched while others have failed. I love the fact that they openly admit they have made mistakes but they instil confidence by assuring us that they won't make the same mistakes again. They've thought everything through and we are now in a position to reap the

Billy - I'm sure you know the answer - the company was dissolved in January this year. Again I'll ask you if you can show me a listed CBD company with CEO9s) with better credentials I would love to hear about them

Billyboy - if you can provide details of any CBD company that has CEO(s) with better credentials than here I would love to hear about them.
They know the business inside out (if you've listened to the company presentation from last year or any interviews that should be apparent) and have a very clear business plan. They haven't done what some other CBD companies are doing by trying to follow this week's trend and stick to their plans. https://zoeticinternational.com/about-us/board-of-directors-and-management/

Certainly a big budget for marketing so I am assuming that this may partly cover the UFC sponsorship. No mention of funds for distribution agreements or overseas production though which will be required and will be substantial. The news of moving to LSE main market is long overdue and very welcome.

https://businesscann.com/over-750-novel-food-applications-submitted-to-fsa-but-only-200-plus-currently-moving-forward/

who's going to tell him?

Thank you and the same to you - as I say you are more than welcome to contact me on Telegram at any time

mic - those are your words not mine and if that's how you want to interpret it good for you.
I'm sure you are more than capable of making your own mind up which is the better investment and I wish you well with whatever you decide. There is no reason that both companies cannot be very successful

mic - if you want to discuss ZOE you are welcome to message me on Telegram. Many people get a bit touchy discussing other companies here

mic - as you want the interims:

LIFE: 6 months to 31/12/2020: Revenue £2.37M loss £0.96M
ZOE: 6 months to 31/09/202: Revenue £54k loss £1.1M

I'm sure these are the figures you wanted

mic - I used the full audited results rather than interims to keep it consistent for both companies. If you wish to post the interims then feel free to post them or if you want to take the best set from one company and the worst set from the other that's up to you. As I said the next set of accounts will be fundamentally different for both companies as much has changed. It might have been easier to post the figures yourself rather than play numerical tennis.
I can't control how you perceive what I write. I gave you the OED definition of fanboy yet you still want to argue that you know what I meant. It makes conversation difficult when one party insists they know what the other person means (and comes across as slightly arrogant)