The most interesting thread on LSE I have seen in a long while. Thanks MontMuzard. America is a prime example of extreme wealth and extreme poverty - constant crisis is I guess down to interpretation but compared to 30 years ago I would agree.
Whatever Eggy - maybe your game is to just provoke. I did say that it wouldn’t help.
I find your personality and your posts quite unbalanced most of the time and your tone vile. I even expressly declared that I didn’t completely disagree with some of the content and yet apparently that makes me nothing but a ramper. You are so blind to your own arrogance the fact that your posts have the opposite effect of your stated intentions. Bit of a failure all round - unless your game is purely to provoke.
A lot of posts have gone MIA. I have a theory that LSE have some kind of logic that if a post in a thread is reported as libellous it is auto removed. Maybe it has only just been worked out and someone is going into overdrive?
Kong - The danger is really only that the board is clogged and it takes longer to find anything useful. I’m happy to read all useful discussion positive or negative, but the campaigns of vitriol and negativity to discredit those with positive opinions in the name of balance or altruism are just not believable and sets off the dominoes of back and forth abuse. That was my point in the OP.
I’ve said many times before my issue with the main offender is not particularly the content but the tone. I do also take issue with middle of the night one liners that only be interpreted to spread fear.
wyndrum - there is a bigger picture. There are many approaches to investing and your preference is just one. Holding after researching is one for sure. Trading can cause a lot of losses if a volatile stock. Look at BTC for example. Spread betting is an easy way to get underwater very quickly.
I agree with the topping up sentiment. However I would refer to you to my point about the actual impact of such statements. I think it is an illusion that has been painted that there are lots of people throwing money in based on the rampers. It is the justification that those who bombard this board with negative sentiment which ultimately clog it up - and I think it just needs to be called out.
Wyndrum - food for thought...
Have you tried to use this BB as a trading discussion when in fact 99% of the posters here don't come for that? You try to engage in trading discussions littered with analysis of the company and given that we are down that analysis is undeniably going to be negative - it has to be, otherwise why would be down so much?
It is like shopping at Sainsbury's for DIY materials. You might find a wee bit of what you want, but what you have been doing is standing outside the store with a loudspeaker shouting about the crappy paint Sainsbury's sells. I'm not trying discredit any of your TA or motives - but you need to see the bigger picture. Given that the diversity (or lack of) is what makes this board- you need to understand your audience better. It is what it is. It would be better if this board could be split into topics, but you will never please most people.
My take on you is that you are mostly a trader and in that respect sentiment is important. However you have reported being invested, I think that is what many here take issue with. Maybe you can be both, a trading stack and a holding stack. But if you are holding 80%, then you aren't going to spout negative stuff as it *COULD* impact the majority of your exposure. That is the information that others will use to judge you.
Every post on here is judged. Those that think they are preaching are the problem. Arrogance will get you abuse. Ignore it if you like, but I don't see much ignoring going on, do you?
Again this is not an attack, I have only taken a step back and try to understand the dynamics of why this board is so poor at the moment.
So a version of this got removed earlier. Upon reflecting all the deleted posts and how this board has gone to the dogs (no offence doggy) I thought it might be worth a reshare - I know it should be obvious but all the bickering is insane here.
So here it is - apparently rocket science for some.
People who invest in companies by buying shares do so to make money. No one does it to lose money. This is a simple fact.
Those who post excessively in a positive manner about a share don’t arouse suspicion because the simple fact above. It is expected the same way a company promotes its goods by advertising. It is pretty easy to scroll on by.
Most (not all) people do their own research (DYOR) and those that don’t learn their lesson pretty quickly. Those that DYOR don’t invest based on positive posts on BBs or the Myles’ of Twitter. They come looking to share research. They make their own minds up and invest their own money. They blame themselves if it goes south. This is what mature and measured investors do.
People who post excessively (day and night) with little else than negativity (even if littered with snippets of backhanded positivity) arouse suspicion for obvious reason - see my point above, the making money part.
Altruism is a really weak alibi- especially on an anonymous board. Perhaps if you used your real name and put your very own reputation on the line … but even then no one would believe you were invested - which many purport to be. It just isn’t credible.
Certainly there can be some mental issues here at play - jealousy, narcissism, etc. To dedicate so much time day and night to posting on LSE is disturbing. It just isn’t normal behaviour or a sign of mental balance. Time differences or bladder issues used as excuses - true or not - are just not believable. I will repeat, even IF true, it is just not believable and will only make you a target. It is perfectly fair when you aren’t putting your name on the line. AND when you add the arrogance and the sheer volume of posts - you can see how the accusations of trolling come about.
I’m not particularly fond of the Twitter Uber rampers but in the case of Myles he has shared a lot of his research and it is good research. I wouldn’t pay much attention to any alluding of inside knowledge from him or anyone else.
And that is the perpetual question does someone else know something I don’t? Best to not believe the hype NOR the negative tripe. Just DYOR and risk what you can afford to lose and set your limit in terms of exposure. It really needn’t be rocket science.
Sorry such a lengthy post just felt that it is a balanced post and got removed in the deletion of the other thread. I’m sure it will do no good.
i remember the days when I had 1 or 2 colds per year. They were pre-kids! Then it was literally every other month. No sleep, kids at nursery picking their noses (and other kids noses) and bam - a cold (or worse a week of vomiting going through the household). Over covid we barely had anything until this summer. So definitely a lot less colds but now we are heading for winter it will be hard to tell... and ninky's son's description of the attitude is not going to help much. I pretty much know we will get it at some point this winter, which reminds me to get going on my inhalers now.
Poor NDN - he is tired been up all night posting - he must have a problem with his water works. I every time he wakes, he has to post. I’ve suggested incontinence pads but this looks even more helpful and somehow feels more fitting guven his obsession with this board???
The volume in the last 30min was significantly more than other times but slightly less than midday two days prior. Clearly there were less sellers but I don’t think we understand or will ever understand what information is used by market makers to move the price. I know they didn’t test the price levels between 160 and 105 on vaccine day. They might get data for quotes and have algorithms for it. I’m sure they are monitoring news and probably PI sentiment to a degree - whether it impacts the price who knows. I’d love to know.
Judging by the overnight posts, there are some strange people over egging their job here grinding in the wee hours of the morning. When do they sleep? Time difference or multiple ids or multiple people sharing a single ID? No real holder cares much when the price is ascending. Let’s hope they close their shorts and be off.
I think you can certainly find doctors that voted for Trump, and even doctors can get sucked into a rabbit hole. I do think the data needs to be analysed and the risks thoroughly assessed, but the fact that a significant populated is vaccinated it would have reduced exposure for the placebo group. If the group that was non-placebo were near end of life anyway (nursing home residents) the data could well be skewed. The non-biased and dispassionate need to fully analyse the data.
Saw these posted about recently here. Hopefully the link between Jim Bethell and Charles Huang will be established.
Do you think the placebo group were in any way affected by the non-placebo group given it is a pandemic? Who were in these groups anyway? Nursing home residents? We had this issue with reports that the vaccine killed a bunch of nursing home residents in Norway at the very beginning. The side effects of the vaccine could kill someone if they were significantly compromised healthwise. You would have to examine the sample size, the health history (were more patients with a heart condition in the non placebo group?) in order to fully understand cause and effect.
Clearly all the data needs to be examined, but too many far right conspiracy theorists just pick out the bits that supports their narrative and ignores the fundamentals of establishing cause and effect.
My father is 88 and refuses the vaccine. He has some health issues and doesn't really go anywhere, so I can't be bothered to persuade him as he is a Trump supporter (who thankfully can't vote). He had to go into hospital for a kidney stone. He has lung issues so if he got covid, it wouldn't be good. He refused to take an LFT after coming out (we wanted to protect our mother). Pretty selfish as it would not have harmed him. He spouts things like people are getting covid because they are vaccinated... you wonder what youtube rabbit hole he has been down. Seriously.
So 'articles' like this really don't do much for the general public. They just use it to support unresearched narrative. Vaccine data needs to be analysed by the unbiased and dispassionate and not by those with passionate views.
Haha every morning I check AVCT SNG EUA - my three riskier shares. I am disturbed to find you inhabiting SNG these days and yes this morning the latest posts from the wee hours - from ray here and on SNG you trying to push your lovely seeds of doubt at an even earlier hour. Vampire or is it just insomnia?
Thanks for ‘ unfiltering ‘ me.