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I’m afraid that the UK is a lamb that roars like a lion. I note that Sunak has humiliatingly corrected Shapps talk of UK troops training Ukrainians in Ukraine.
Which brings me to another point. Where is Ukraine going to get Ukrainians from? I know it raids bars and clubs to drag young men out to enlist them, and I know they’ve already mobilised up to age 60.
What next? Compulsory enlistment of women? Men up to 70? Boys from 14?
Because however much WMSM pretends that Ukraine can still ‘win’, you can’t escape the grim reality. Its losses are 400k dead based on independent geo-located analysis of graveyards. It has 50k amputees, probably another 500k injured, many of who will never be fit to return. 10 million have left, Russia being the largest single recipient of refugees.
Yes I know the West wants the war to continue. As Senator Graham said, it’s a great investment for the US to kill Russians by proxy for only $110bn so far.
But that’s sick. And so is this facade that Ukraine can win. And so is pretending that investment in FXPO is a great idea. Because the longer this continues, the greater the chance that FXPO becomes worthless, it’s assets become part of Russian territory.
Troajan - you can make as many points as you want about alleged ‘war crimes’ and how awful Putin is.
But none of that addresses my central point which is that Ukraine will lose this war. This is absolutely inevitable and always has been.
And as you know, victors in wars are never held to account for ‘war crimes’. The US and UK committed numerous alleged war crimes in Iraq, Afghanistan etc but nobody has ever been held to account.
So it will be with Russia which isn’t going to go away or surrender or elect a nice pro western president. Europe will have to live with Russia, as will what’s left of Ukraine.
Euphoric western propaganda, most of which is dis-information designed to stop anyone asking awkward questions or face being denounced as an ‘orc sympathiser’, is leading to this absurd dis-connect between what people think is happening (or about to happen) and reality.
Take a punt on Russian surrender if you wish. That’s what FXPO investment essentially is in my view. But it’s an incredibly unlikely long shot IMO.
@onsolidground is right - FXPO is a play on hostilities ending.
Ironically of course it is the West which scuppered negotiations back in April 2022, and the West which is prolonging the conflict by supplying Ukraine with weapons and money to pay salaries, pensions etc.
Without the West’s intervention, this conflict would have ended long ago and FXPO might be operating in a more normal environment.
It is in fact London and a Washington which are driving Ukraine to continue fighting a conflict which they can’t win. It is the endless war which western MICs have been yearning for since Afghanistan ended in debacle.
The next wonder weapon will have no bearing on the eventual outcome of this conflict. Ukraine is already lost but will continue to fight until it literally runs out of men or the military replace Zelensky.
Regarding the thread subject, ATACMS are the latest wonder weapon after javelins, Himars, Challengers, Patriots and Storm Shadows.
And Russia will adapt air defence systems to mitigate.
Meanwhile the destruction and killing continue. Anyone cheering this needs a long think. And some of those are in Westminster.
The much hyped spring offensive has been a total failure. Ukraine’s western trained, advised and armed offensive has done almost nothing except kill another 50k Ukrainians.
Meanwhile peace becomes ever more difficult and FXPOs future ever more uncertain. Yet many of you, brainwashed by ludicrous propaganda, continue to cheer on Ukraine in this impossible war they can’t win. The destruction of Ukraine just another casualty of western delusions, like Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria etc.
Geo-politically it looks to me that it’s the G7 states which really are most troubled, isolated, mature economies with poor demographics and a declining influence globally.
By contrast China sits squarely with the global majority, the dynamic young populations of Asian and Africa.Economic growth, if there is any, will most likely be led by or benefit China.
I discount UK media as largely the delusions of elite group think. I wish it wasn’t so, but I’m afraid that the G7 states, that cabal of imperial or former imperial powers, are unable to come to terms with the end of western hegemony.
China is lots of things, but I hold AAL because ultimately I believe that it will continue to grow at a faster rate than the sclerotic economies of the G7 which are themselves fast becoming ‘security states’.
January is right - it’s a great proxy war for the US.
But strangely, in focusing on Russia’s alleged losses, there is no mention of the real losers in all this. Because fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian is morally obscene, and let’s make no mistake here, it is Ukraine which is losing a generation of men at a rate likely many times higher than Russia.
Boris Johnson scuppered peace talks in April 2022. How many people have died since? America is making a point, but at the prime expense of Ukraine.
As the old saying goes, being an enemy of the US can be dangerous, but being a friend can be fatal.
Well, If you want to play whataboutism, I could raise you Baghdad, Pyongyang, Saigon, Belgrade, Fallujah, Nagasaki, Hiroshima ……..
When it comes to bombing of civilians there’s only one true champion.
But don’t let that obscure the fact that Ukraine is deliberately targeting civilians with its indiscriminate drone attacks.
Continued war of course is a disaster for FXPO.
Maybe I should remind Evanescent that it is Ukraine which intentionally attacks civilian targets (notably high rise flats) with its drones. Anything for a quick bit of publicity to take attention away from its failed counter-offensive and massive body count.
I’m sure that the more discerning among you will have realised already that Russia is not intentionally targeting civilian facilities - except where they are being used for military purposes.
Kiev would be a pile of rubble already if that was Russia’s intention.
How wonderful to see people like Alex finally letting realism creep into their consciousness.
But that realism has not yet permeated the consciousness of UK media and government who continue to ‘as long as it takes’ mantra.
This cruel and inhumane approach, which began with Johnson scuppering peace negotiations in April last year, will condemn many more thousands to their deaths. It is beyond my comprehension as to how the UK has collectively decided that sponsoring Ukraine to continue fighting a war it literally has no hope of winning, is in some way righteous, humane and virtuous.
And as has been obvious for 18 months, FXPO will continue to suffer decline and degradation until negotiations are successful. And for negotiations to be successful requires both parties to be at the table, recognising objective realities. London currently supports continued futile war, and that’s more bad news for FXPO.
Agree with @Karlo90.
A very high chance of losing everything invested in FXPO.
Of course, I’m already blocked by many of the starry eyed zealots who most need to read this, but we can only try.
UK media having a field day today because Ukraine has successfully damaged a Russian landing ship. All totally irrelevant to the ground campaign, but great publicity for those desperate to prolong war to the last Ukrainian so that even more people may die. A sad and sorry state of affairs.
Zelensky calling for a peace summit based on Russian capitulation and talks not involving Russia!
The truth is that until Z is replaced Ukraine’s de-militarisation will continue. Whilst the West can replace weapons it can’t replace humans, and on that score Ukraine’s losses have likely been multiples worse than Russia’s with a population base only 30% of Russia’s.
So look, it doesn’t take a genius to work out that Ukraine can’t win. That so many of you appear to have fallen for the UK propaganda is rather dismal.
Zelensky’s fate is linked to the prosecution of a successful war. So we know he’s not interested in peace. He is a dictator who has banned opposition parties and suspended elections.
The choice facing the West is either military escalation possibly leading to a world ending nuclear war, or finding a way to back out of its rhetoric without losing too much face.
Engineering a coup to replace Zelensky with someone who might seriously negotiate peace (and that involves reflecting reality on the ground) is increasingly likely.
Reality ultimately trumps pious self righteous rhetoric from states who have prosecuted plenty of illegal wars themselves. The West backed a loser (again).
Seems that Russia’s response to the Kerch Bridge attack is to devastate Ukraine’s port infrastructure. Having exited the grain deal, Russia is now free to do this.
I don’t know whether Yuzhny has been targeted yet, but it seems to me that cheerleaders for the Kerch Bridge terrorist incident have exhibited their usual short sightedness.
I feel it will be difficult for FXPO not to be negatively impacted , directly or indirectly, by attacks on Black Sea ports. The market will wake up to this when they get over the euphoria of decent inflation figures.
An 8 year old has been orphaned as her civilian parents were killed.
Terrorism is terrorism no matter how de-based the West has become.
This is neither welcome nor justified, and in all probability for investors, the longer this goes on the less FXPO shares will be worth.
Terrorist attacks on civilian infrastructure are ‘welcome’?
The last terrorist attack in the bridge led to the destruction of Ukrainian power infrastructure. This attack is not going to lead to Russian capitulation but rather a response which will cost Ukraine and it’s western backers even more money.
Hard to fathom your reasoning as to this being ‘welcome’.
there’s a strange dichotomy here that whilst fxpo continues to test new 52 week lows, the bravado of some investors (buoyed by the obvious propaganda nonsense spewed out by uk media) seems to reach new heights.
and yes i know, anyone not singing from the hymn sheet is denounced as a ‘russian troll’ or ‘bot’ or sympathiser. stalin would be proud.
but as a realist i’m fascinated by this strange mindset. because it’s really quite extraordinary to believe that ukraine can defeat russia in a war. it makes literally no sense to think this as russia’s military potential and population are magnitudes greater than ukraine’s. but it’s almost a religious belief in the uk, a belief founded not on any objective reality at all, but on a heady ****tail of lies, false accusations, and repetition.
ukraine is slowly being destroyed, and with it so is fxpo. we all hate russia and putin of course, but that doesn’t mean that we can wish him away through our moral outrage.
the west made this war existential for russia. but in a proxy fight to the last ukrainian there’s only one outcome and it’s not the one media tells you.
there’s a strange dichotomy here that whilst fxpo continues to test new 52 week lows, the bravado of some investors (buoyed by the obvious propaganda nonsense spewed out by uk media) seems to reach new heights.
and yes i know, anyone not singing from the hymn sheet is denounced as a ‘russian troll’ or ‘bot’ or sympathiser. stalin would be proud.
but as a realist i’m fascinated by this strange mindset. because it’s really quite extraordinary to believe that ukraine can defeat russia in a war. it makes literally no sense to think this as russia’s military potential and population are magnitudes greater than ukraine’s. but it’s almost a religious belief in the uk, a belief founded not on any objective reality at all, but on a heady ****tail of lies, false accusations, and repetition.
ukraine is slowly being destroyed, and with it so is fxpo. we all hate russia and putin of course, but that doesn’t mean that we can wish him away through our moral outrage.
the west made this war existential for russia. but in a proxy fight to the last ukrainian there’s only one outcome and it’s not the one media tells you.
On any objective basis the counter offensive seems to be going very slowly and quite badly for Ukraine. I doubt Washington and Kiev planned ‘shaping operations’ to last for a week and cost (by confirmed sources) a significant % of the German Leopard 2A6 tanks (the most advanced variant they have).
This is a really ugly looking situation for NATO’s Ukrainian army, and whilst UK media in particular are dedicated to un-ashamed propaganda, at some stage the ugly reality is going to get out.
I don’t believe much if any of eastern Ukraine won’t be Russian territory in the not so distant future.
Yes, of course NATO could intervene and precipitate a nuclear exchange, but with London having made itself target number 1, the FXPO share price will be the least of our worries.
Regarding Xi in Moscow, any interpretation of this as China putting pressure on Russia to negotiate is wrong.
In fact Ukrainian law makes it illegal to negotiate with Putin whilst it is widely accepted that Johnson prevailed on Zekensky to cease negotiations back in April last year.
Meanwhile China is not going to pressure its ally to humiliation since, as has long been clear in official Chinese statements, they regard the US as primarily responsible for this conflict, and note that the US has pumped over $100bn of arms into theatre.
A quick end to this conflict may come, IMO, but only when Ukraine capitulates or its western backers pull the plug on life support. Because the West’s full out rhetoric and actions have made this existential for Russia, and that was a massive mistake if you want peace.
It’s ironic to be described as ‘scum’ and a ‘bot’ simply for having the temerity to have a different point of view to the official propaganda and ‘truth’ so dominant in the UK media and establishment.
Because I thought the UK was a freedom loving democracy, where people can express their opinions without being ‘cancelled’ or denounced and insulted.
It seems I am wrong. There is a single undeniable ‘truth’ which broadly equates to Ukraine = good, Russia = evil. To question this is to be a virtual traitor.
This is apparently a matter of right and wrong, black and white - there is no room for nuance, for discussion, even for compromise.
Russia must be defeated. The world’s foremost nuclear armed power must be defeated if not humiliated by a state with less than a third of Russia’s population.
There’s no room for peace or negotiations in the official ‘truth’. What could possibly go wrong?