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3i Group at yet another all time high

CNA reached a 3 month high

HSBC reached another 5 year high

MARS well up on results

TSCO reached a 10 year high

LLOY still value at only £32 Billion

Excellent

NT

It is a lot better than your good price of about 42p ?

NC

The proof of a future Lloyds valuation will be at the time of that future.

NC

''So my point is 'why' did you not sell in the 60's and gain even more shares by buying back much lower?''

Just to repeat - I sold at the 53p/£38 Billion valuation and subsequently purchased 4 times at an average of about 41p.

NC

''So my point is 'why' did you not sell in the 60's and gain even more shares by buying back much lower?''

??

I have already said - my next selling point was going to be at £40 Billion which I had changed from not less than £38 Billion.

The market cap did not reach £40 Billion - a valuation that I would have still regarded as low.

''Well same for me, hence still here.''

No, NOT the same for you. I had a selling level in mind, which would have been a fraction of my holding, and you did not.

'' I 'think' they will go far lower on the courts decision, and likely lower still should div's be cut, scrapped, and buybacks postponed for an unknown period of time.''

Then you should be selling .

As for me, I never 'think' what the market will do, only act on certain price levels that the market offers.

'' the markets are dropping this ever lower and most of it due to....''

you are repeating historic reasons that have been reported.

'' other banks less 'exposed' to the two mis-selling scandals, are not falling buy rising, proving why Lloyds is not wanted.''

You have had the choice of switching investments at any time.

Buyers are wanting Lloyds every trading day.

''The 'conformation' of the courts decision will clearly not be fully factored in''

You can switch investments at any time.

''as you yourself proves that there are very many 'hopeful' or naive owners of Lloyds who prefer not to face what is most likely to happen, until it does.''

I am neither 'hopeful' or 'naive' so you will have to find your prove elsewhere.

I repeat - I only act on price levels that the market offers me - end of.

''I will be proven to be more accurate again I fear.''

Since when has your investments in Lloyds been more accurate than mine?

NC

''have YOU sold yet then? Must be loosing a lot if not.

? - strange thing to say when I have stated my average price many times.

Why would I sell?

I have an average price of 20.56p with my last sale being at a 53p/£38 Billion valuation, with 4 purchases following that averaging about 41p.

''if you are still holding why didn't you sell?''

Ditto

''you were 'wrong' not to have done so.''

not a question of 'wrong' - speculative news broke before the Lloyds valuation had reached my next selling point of a £40 Billion valuation (revised up from no less than £38 Billion)

The only 'wrong' is when someone is unhappy with a stock and even suggests a much lower valuation, but still refuses to sell.

I on the other hand only give the fact that Lloyds is lowly valued.

I have no idea what the timescale will be to get to my next selling levels - I do not get concerned with such things - maybe a next purchasing level will come first - only the market will decide that.

NC

''if you think this is low, wait until the court decision falls on the ears of the naive, hopeful in denial types.''

'' nowhere near 'priced in'. Watch, and learn.''

Will you ever learn?

Another reminder - You have a SELL button

Sb

''Got out today at a loss''

Your fictitious shares

3i Group reached yet another all time high

BT reached another 52 week high

CAR well up - currently about 10%

HSBC reached another 5 year high

MARS reached the 40's again

LLOY valued at only £32 Billion

DCB

''Its a complete no brainer to be invested in lloyds.

Those of use who are holding Lloyds for our pension''

No matter how long you keep up your facade, it will not wash with me -you do not own a single share

A day in the life of an Englishmen

https://www.facebook.com/marc.levine.311/videos/1448883825779002

MB

''If you were say in Spain and met an Englishman would you speak Spanish.''

What has that got to do with areas of England like where I am, where no one is speaking English . That indicates to me that our country is being SWAMPED in areas by foreigners - simple enough to understand.

Jm

''diabolical share price performance .''

As usual that would differ for each investor - no good giving your own experience as if it is the norm for everyone.

''holding this''

just holding has obviously been your downfall - if you are just holding a dividend stock then any capital appreciation should be seen as a bonus.

Some investors would have done more than just hold, with further purchases when extremely low in valuation. The share price rose about 160% in a 4 year period from the 2020 lows.

You need more feeling in your stomach with much more fibre lad, so that all that clogging up from your siht can be expelled, and hopefully will also have the knock on effect of you unclogging this board from similar, to make you think a bit clearer. At the moment you are on auto loop.

You need more feeling in your stomach with much more fibre lad, so that all that clogging up from your siht can be expelled, and hopefully will also have the knock on effect of you unclogging this board from similar, to make you think a bit clearer. At the moment you are on auto loop.

It may also make you think a bit clearer.

MB

ballax - so you think that the state pension will remain forever funded by workers - think again - that is why the pension age has risen and will continue to do so along with compulsory work place pensions.

All illegal migrants need to be kicked out asap and all legal migrants need to be kicked out when no longer needed. British workforce can be greatly increased by drastically reducing benefits.

DCB

''we are inevitably going to re-join, sooner or later!''

the record is still sticking after over 8 years - time to throw it away.

you will never see the UK join the EU with a vote from the UK people.

It is no concern of yours in any case - be content with being an Irish Gypsy living the caravan lifestyle in Spain.

NC

'' they refuse to accept that is why the markets are not interested in this share.''

there are interested buyers of Lloyds every trading day - to add I am not aware of any poster on here who is unaware of the fictitious 'car sale scam' playing a part in Lloyds valuation falling from over £38 Billion to the current £32 Billion.

''Watching the uncrossing trades, seems there are huge numbers traded recently, perhaps the huge sellers don't wish to drag the price down by announcing their unloading until the 'business' is done.''

??

strange comment.

For every share sold in the auction there is a buyer.

The closing price from the auction will depend on the number of shares being 'asked' and bid' for in the call period before an execution price can be determined for the maximum number of shares at the end of the call period.

There is no question of a price not being 'dragged' just because of a share transfer is by way of auction. The UC can differ from the 16.30 price in either direction.

'' the 'market' ''

'' likely know it will be huge, and worse still, when the Court 'announces' its decision this will plunge rapidly''

'' we will fall much further then, for the 'bad news' is NEVER all 'priced in'. ''

''HMG won't 'miss' any means available'....''

It is the FCA and judges creating this non 'car scam' scam.

''Years more of misery for holders here,''

''The markets can 'see' what is coming, for it is a given''

''Board and HMG have a symbiotic relationship''

another strange comment - HMG are not dependant on Lloyds Banking group and Lloyds are not dependant on HMG to function.

You have a SELL button

Gu

''all you need focus on is how the govt in power going to cover the costs''

it is not my problem to focus on, but it should be the focus of a UK government to remove the 1.25 million + illegals AND legal migrants and their offspring when their work/student visa expire. I do not accept that anyone has the right to remain after the expiry of such a visa even if they have had a child whilst here - the child should be expelled with parents.