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Hello Chianti, Some very interesting points raised during the discussion. Especially about the certification. Which " ...... will be granted in the future ....... " From the tenders I have been involved with, you designed, built, tested and agreed the specification before hand and tendered on the finished product accordingly. Not tendered on something that was still being " tweaked " and changed it afterwards. Compliance should come before a tender situation. Not after. So that when the tender is won, production can begin. So at this moment in time, they have completed a tender for 5m meters and do not know, what compliant type of meter, they are going to receive? Except from Genus Power, who already qualify, I believe. Very interesting indeed. Thank you for the information, Chianti. Good luck. LTI.

Hello Overfiend/Ted, You are both welcome. Good luck. LTI.

Good morning Ted, I note on the top of your report, that it is a cancellation of request for " Expression of Interest." Which I think is an early stage part of any tender process. I also do not think that the Bangladesh orders for CyanConnode, were for pre-payment meters. But there have been for some time, two tenders for pre-payment meters, for Bangladesh, on the website, for some time. One may be related to your EOI. The first, Expiry date 5th February, 2018, does not have any numbers of meters attached. Neither does the EOI. https://opportunities.export.great.gov.uk/opportunities/bangladesh-smart-pre-payment-meter The second, Expiry date 5th March, 2018, does have 130,000 smart meters on it. https://opportunities.export.great.gov.uk/opportunities/bangladesh-smart-pre-payment-meter-80 If the second tender, took the place of the first tender, then maybe there process allowed for the cancellation of the original EOI? Also both tenders can be found on:- Bangladesh Smart pre-payment meter - web-page. LTI.

Hello Vas, I think this was the report that you posted earlier, that didn't come through. Easily done, but there was an additional " Y " introduced at the end of the web address that was posted. I hope this one works. http://www.thehansindia.com/posts/index/Andhra-Pradesh/2017-10-09/LED-lights-fail-to-glow-due-to-absence-of-Centrally-Controlling-and-Monitoring-System/331862 If the web address fails, just type-in:- Andhra Pradesh - LED streetlights fail to glow and it should be okay. Good luck LTI.

Hello CB, This may be of some help. I found it on the EESL website, after I had posted to you at 15:49. It does not mention about GPRS, on their report, so that is interesting that it is a GPRS based solution. So what happens to the smart lighting, if EESL alter there requirements and allow other solutions into there tender specification, like RF. And as Vas pointed out, in the latest tender on the 18th March, 2018, EESL indicated:- " The communications module shall be of plugable type and shall be capable of servicing 3G/4G NB LTE or NB IoT with fallback on GPRS technology, compliant with IPv6." " ..... fallback on GPRS technology ...... ?" I wonder how that will work, if the lighting has been set up for GPRS, if EESL decide to introduce another solution? https://www.eeslindia.org/EN/Slnp/About/ LTI.

Hello CB, I must have missed it. Could you point me in the right direction? LTI.

And long may the LED roll-out continue, providing the increased revenues, for utilities to provide a smart lighting roll-out, when the budgets are available. LTI.

Hello CB, I think you will find, that the CESC India, ( Calcutta Electric Supply Corporation ) mentioned in your post, linked to Vas's post, is the CESC in West Bengal, who SilverSprings provide them with a solution. Where CyanConnode do not, as yet, have any " stickiness," as you implied. The two areas mentioned, Bharatpur and Kota, are in the north to northeast part of India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CESC_Limited Where we are looking for some " stickiness " is from CESC Mysore, ( Chamundeshwari Electric Supply Corporation Limited - CESC Mysore,) which is one of CyanConnodes successes. And as we know, EESL visited the installation recently. CESC Mysore operates in the south of India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamundeshwari_Electricity_Supply_Corporation LTI.

Hello CB, As we know, the first three smart meter orders/installations, that CyanConnode were involved with, for Tata Power Mumbai, CESC Mysore and PVVNL, were not IPV6 compliant. The Genus order for UGVCL, is IPv6 compliant and is the first IPv6 compliant order that CyanConnode have received and will deliver. So rather than CyanConnode being " ..... slow to the party ..... " as you put it, they were providing what the client wanted, at the time. And very successfully. Now they are providing what the client wants at UGVCL, in partnership with Genus Power. There have been " first generation " IPv6 " smart meters " around, for many years. The first few installations of smart meters in India, involving CyanConnode, were not required to be IPv6. The point John Cronin made, was that you can have IPv6 and all the " bells and whistles " that they want. But do they need them and are they prepared to pay the price attached. LTI.

Good morning all, Part of what John Cronin actually said, was " ........... and the standards, well you know we've moved from having proprietary systems, when we first came here and now we have standards, IPv6, 6LowPAN, all those famous words and the standards on the meters. Well you know what's happened, don't you, actually you are paying more, because you want standards. It's crazy for me to say, put the standards in, it's going to cost you more. Well, why? Why have them ( standards ) mandatory, when you should have them as guidelines only and let yourself, from a commercial point, decide which way you want to go." He also commented on the fact that they require data " .... every 15 minutes." And the fact that CyanConnode can provide data every 15 minutes, but what are they going to do with the data? In a presentation a while ago, it was proposed that the Indian Government was looking for R's999 as a target price for meters. What did they eventually end up paying at the completion of the EESL reverse auction? R's2500. That is the point I believe John Cronin was making. Consumers in " Smart Cities " and other high end areas, with a higher disposable income, will probably be offered/want, an IPv6 service. Other areas could be offered a non IPv6 solution. Hence John Cronin's proposal, that they should be " guidelines " and not " mandatory." LTI.

....... for the UK. https://www.metering.com/industry-sectors/iot/smart-meter-installations-uk/ And taking the opportunity of wishing you all a Happy Easter and a cracking Bank Holiday. Good luck. LTI.

Hello CB, Thank you for your reply. I am glad to hear it, on solar power. And as far as CyanConnode are concerned, I think they have timed a lot of things well. Although it has taken longer than we originally thought. Depending how long you have been invested, of course. It is now a matter of the delivery of share-holder value. But we all know that. Don't we. LTI.

Hello CB, It is good to know that EESL are involved in the potential for Solar Power. And do I detect a slight hint of positivity, by yourself, concerning the January Trading Statement? I wonder what prompted that?

Good morning all, There does seem to be a change of tone and delivery, in the presentations from John Cronin and Ayoy Rejani. I would imagine that this is probably being echoed, throughout the industry. A co-ordinated position, is better than an isolated position. Thank you Chianti, for the Ayoy Rejani presentation. It was very interesting to see another representatives point of view, which reflected John Cronins. Good luck. LTI.

Hello chem, Thank you for posting the video information. It is appreciated. And it's interesting about a proposed new development, it seems, to link many different utility solutions, including smart electricity meters, gas, water, traffic lights, lighting, etc., through different infrastructures, such as RF mesh, LoRa and cellular, over a single platform. Very interesting indeed. Good luck. LTI.

Hello CB, As I said, it is good to see that progress is being made. On the introduction of smart street lighting. When at one time you suggested that smart street lighting would not be required at all. LTI.

Good morning all, CB, I do believe there was a conversation, a while back, where you said that smart lighting control was not required, because of the savings being achieved by the introduction of LED's. I commented at the time, that the introduction of LED's, could possibly be put down to budget's and that the introduction of LED lamps, was only part of the process and that the introduction of the " smart element " of street lighting, could come at a later stage, when budget's allow. It is good to know that progress is being made. LTI.

Good evening Chianti/tonyj, Maybe EESL were suitably impressed with their Mysore visit? I mentioned in October, last year, that where RF is not the main solution, that CyanConnode could be part of the overall solution, if required. Time will tell. Good luck. LTI.

Good afternoon all. A very interesting report. A couple of the passages from the report, dated 12th October 2017:- - " While EESL has chosen GPRS, private companies are going for RF mesh ........ " ( Page 5 ) - " Tata Power is installing 250,000 meters using RF-mesh technology, while CESC is running a large pilot, in two localities in Kolkata, with 25,000 meters each and will also replace 200,000 meters in Kota and 50,000 in Bharatpur, with RF mesh-based meters ...... " ( Page 5 ) https://www.thequint.com/news/india/india-largest-smart-meter-rollout-gprs-or-rf-mesh LTI.

Hello CB, It is not uncommon on this bb, for posters like yourself to make that claim. It is usually when they run out of things to say. It is a shame really, but I have come to expect it now. LTI.