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Shorting and selling aren't quite the same thing Kipper...

Shorts declare a desire for the sp to fall by their very actions, rather than selling stock thay they currently own.

How would you fancy it if I put a for sale sign up outside your house for 20% less than its current value?

ATB

But it does confirm for us that YJ are still on the payrool per Cheesie's enquiry.

Cheeseman...any direct response to you?

I'm with you Flakey, Star was the messenger..

I doubt anyone finding the info Star unearthed would have acted any differently.
There occasiosionally seems to be a spirit of cameraderie on here, but even most those of you who have met at investor meeting dont really 'know' each other.
No one can tell me they would have jumped on a BB and said " hey guys, look what I've found....now off you go and sell up while I wait around a bit til you're done..."

In terms of selling off some/all of his holding before publication (assuming he did)....just imagine how bad it would have been had TW and crew dug that shiite up, not a genuine holder?

Still hopeful of a positive outcome, but certainly not banking on it with the evidnece we've seen so far. GLA

I do trust you meant Hope, not hope...

I'm clinging to the latter, but would happily throttle the former ;-)

Lse interview 24/10, c 7 mins in...no mention of suspension

I wondered if he mentioned it in the last interview where he stated the fiduciary breach, but I cant find it anywhere on youtube now,

or vox, proactive or anywhere else. Last one I can find is from October last year....all the upbeat stuff, but none of the allegations

Dont recall it ever being in an RNS, as we would collectively have grabbed that like a life raft....

My view only, but....

I believe Hope was after another Madagascar situation, where he took over the company and has subsequently done extremely well out of it....a company that was in a very similar position to us atm.

If it IS true that he cant profit by more than what he is owed, then it was ESSENTIAL for him to make his move before the valuation (current or forecast-I'm not sure which applies) of FRR (as FRCC) exceeded its liability to OMF.

In the meantime, we see SN and ZM fighting tooth and nail (hopefully on our behalf too), to retain control of both the company and the asset. Why do this if there was no upside other than the $56m fiduciary claim? Big number that, but they'd know it would fail if false.

If we do have finances and/or revenue as indicated, then our intrinsic value increases. It's now down to the courts and whether anyone has overstepped any lines legally

Strategic litigation or otherwise, good luck to all invested

Contra, is the case definitely before the court? Not seen the 3 docs uploaded earlier yet...

From garytrader earlier:
"The matter will be set for a hearing regarding whether a preliminary injunction should issue for June 6, 2019 at 1:30 p.m."
That looks horribly like a month before we get a hearing to me.

Please cmiiw

OTOH, with the new no leaks policy, I'm kind of glad.

Think I'd be getting (more) nervous if he started up with that kind of tweet again

I think its the LSE filter..

Warran..t w a t ...cher.

Very unfortunate, and one of the posters who definitely doenst deseve that epithet

"A £20k loss? What I wouldnt give for a £20k loss! ...You've had it bloody easy you have ...." etc etc...

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Lessons for a few here.

GLA

That is possibly assuming its correct, and it looks to be), the bestbit of info from the recent exchanges between the lawyers.

Did Kawaley not say FRR had a good chance at appeal in his most recent summary?

And we have now apparently turned down the option of that appeal on the grounds of cost and convenience...and opted for a possible jury trial in front of a US audience instead.

That definitley sounds like FRR going for the jugular to me...

But obviously enough of a pipe dream not to sell up and move on

A word of caution...
I also hold shares in NUOG, whose holders voted against a resolution to allow issue of shares without an open offer to SHs, back in January.

Sp there is now 1/3 of what it was then.

There are many ways a company's BOD can take retribution if they feel wronged, but obviously you must vote as you see fit.

Is anyone able to confirm whether zM and SN hold the same class of shares as us?

If so, then at least it shows alignment...

Yup...another windup ****for the filter bin

We should know what's been submitted by late on the 7th, Zen, but I doubt we will find out the Judge's stance til later in the week, inless he immediately applies the TRO.

I suspect we're in for another week of name-calling and infighting based on amateur attempts to anaylse the merits of the respective cases, sadly.

Early input from our resident legals (Oopsi and Daniel) might help keep things a bit more stable on here?

Bomber..

Love it.

Have a good weeknd all

So you're out for a loss then Jester?

Sorry Hammy,

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wkURz6H0I0I

Not giving up yet.... as Reg says, top flight lawyers will put any spin they can to show the other side in a bad light.