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Probably like <1% chance of any news today before like 13:30 hrs, after that the window is wide open until AGM

No obligation to do so however given Hemogenyx spans UK, Belgum, USA they are likely to time it to be when the US is online so around 2pm would be a decent guess.
That said, the media storm over the youtube video is whats likely to prompt the RNS and given I suspect they are currently under a gag order or NDA they will need to get permission on wording etc before they can publish anything. All said and done it may be tomorrow before we hear anything. Any later and we are into the AGM and not a chance they would get away with a no news AGM in this heat!!!

People ACTUALLY sold at 6.6p on opening lol!
Like who sets an order to sell on opening on a monday morning without first checking to see how a share is going to perform???
PPL are still selling at like 7p!! :'-) There MUST be people who just purely trade using automation or something and just go for small percentage gains, there is no other reason to sell surely?
If you have done any sort of research you know whats coming and it aint 8p.. or 9p...

If you have not watched:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=596&v=ItZ8yc59nds&feature=emb_logo
Do it, save yourself the embarrassment of saying later "I bought at 6.8p and sold at 8p!! Yea 1.2p profit on every share! Arnt I the dogs balls!" :P

There was no reason for it to drop below 10p except we had alot of pressure on the selling side and no formal news.
I think people are starting to wake up to the fact that it may not be formal news but Hemogenyx are onto an absolute stonker of a deal. People can wait for the official RNS or watch one or 2 clips from partners and connect the dots themselves and get in before the RNS, investors by and large are not idiots and prefer to get in BEFORE the RNS which is what happens, added with the depressed seller is not in play for a while and this gives for a very good day for hemo ahead. Personal prediction re RNS? Today around 2pm or tomorrow around 2pm.

Right gonna try and not look the rest of the day :P until 4:30 anyway to see where we finished.
Can see today finishing up if people think RNS might come monday morning, or down if people want to hold cash over the weekend. With AGM next week, I feel that if Hemo CAN get news out early in the week it will make it much easier at the AGM for them rather than a no comment AGM.
I would Love a monday morning RNS but that means the legals etc would have to be finished and signed TODAY as just feels unlikely they would hold that information over a weekend....

So here is my prediction, who knows might come close (or could be a mile off):
Close 6.89, down from opening price so red day but up from where it is now.
Monday morning no RNS, open with a drop down towards 6.6/ maybe brushing 6.5 for a very short time.
No news or any sort of media noise from Hemogenyx over the weekend.
9am New York time so 2pm here the legals will be signed.
2:30-3pm locally a pre-prepared RNS detailing the agreement will be published
4:30pm market will close high but not ridiculously high giving people Monday night to digest details in the RNS and decide their position for Tuesday morning.

THAT is my prediction / Guess
Please feel free to post your prediction / guess - no flaming/insulting/name calling, if you disagree with mine or someone elses prediction then post YOUR prediction even if its just: "No news today, no news monday, no news tuesday"

Lol, I actually missed that so thank you for sharing.
Looks like they have a get out clause in there:
or (iii) it is undesirable
in the interests of the Company or the good order of the AGM that the question be answered.

I have emailed them with some questions and asked how to formally submit questions for AGM, no reply

The deal that is expected with the global pharma should see us into the 20s, let alone any other news that comes along. We dont know very much details about the pharma deal atm but given the media lockout and the time its taken to release any information it probably fair to assume is a pretty big deal. So 20p could be an under or over estimate we just dont know. So when you value it now do you value it as it stands where its making only a few 100k a year selling mice or do you value it where it will be after each piece of news lands minus a risk premium?
Personally because others have already started using our name I think the risk is quite low that there will be no significant news so you need to price in atleast partially SOME of that news today. Given the placing was 7p and was over subscribed by investors who know more than us about whats going on in Hemo you should expect they will want a minimum of a 50-100% discount on the placing price which is next week.
So based on that Right now I think the SP should be 9.5-14p

I dont think it will have any bearing on when Hemo release news but I think we should HOPE there is no RNS today, its seems to lose impact over the weekend and forgotten by monday no matter how good it is. So a good RNS monday morning 7am to catch everyone off guard would be my preference.

well my buy is showing up as a SELL i assure you it was not.
Also look at the 117k trades.. They are not a fixed value amount but rather batches of approx 117k shares.
Very suspicious

At 8:43 I bought 145,116 shares, a few moments before that I bought 31,851 shares in a different account. The 30k is showing the 145k is not, yet there are plenty of trades after that. Also both were instant online trades, no limit orders or anything...

Has anyone got the nerve to ring up HWN Lending, there is a number on their website, and ask are they selling off Bauer shares this morning and if so ask them to stop?

@Shardster you CLEARLY did not read what I had to say but just wanted a quick reply, fine to each their own, but i feel if you fail to read everything you disqualify yourself from being allowed to reply.
I would say that EVERYONE here is here for selfish reasons, I am not here to make my next door neighbour money, I am here to make money for myself and my family. That is a selfish reason. It just so happens that also benifits every other PI in Hemo as my goals and the goals of investors are aligned, if other investors were not also here for selfish reasons and out to destroy or harm the SP that would be bad. Unfortunaltly one of the worst human traits is also one of the best when it comes to the stock market, greed, greed for long term and short term performance.

Also if you have read anything i have said you would see i said VERY VERY clearly i view short term as a few months and LONG term as 1-2 years. Like how many times do I have to spell it out?
I need a short term gain to pay off a loan which I used to invest, IE 1-2 months I would like to see this atleast 100%+
After that the majority of my holding will be carried though until there is a change of ownership in the next year or two.

But SERIOUSLY Where on earth did you get this from??? CERTAINLY NEVER WORDS THAT HAVE CROSSED MY MOUTH:
"Just here for hemo, if you class the long run as as a couple of weeks you are clearly deluded"

Warren you are correct on both accounts, I am short term and long term.
Some of the money I have used to take a position is not lets say available for the long term so in the short term, next few months I will have to repay it, its zero interest loan which I would feel better clearing sooner rather than later. But that aside I have a sizeable stake of my own money in here too and has been since ~2p mark. I have no immediate need of that money nor any profits that may arise in the next month so I am more than happy to wait for the change of ownership event be it a buyout or take over or merger, whatever happens in the next year or so.
So YES I want short term gain to clear my debt and probably clear my costs so its a free ride, anything else will be left long term.
I accept you might be right about the collaboration being priced in however it really does depend on the details, I dont know for sure who it is nor do I know the details, it could be very very lucrative for us or it could be a very minor role. I suspect and hope its going to be very significant deal that brings us back to the 15-20p+ range as a base with a spike into the 25p+ for a short while but only time will tell. Ill be peeved if the RNS is a damp squib after all this waiting.

I would love to see exactly what the investors who subscribed to the placing were shown, surely that should be public knowledge?

@WarrenBoofay, I believe big news is coming before or shortly after the AGM, I have a suspicion that the funding MIGHT be tied to some news that cannot be release, but I also feel that we are well past the "Short period" mentioned in the last results regarding the partnersip and its due, like NOW.
If there is no news, or SP drops after the AGM I will still be here, and you know what? I will admit I was wrong if that turns out to be the case, will you be with your 1 post? Will you come back and say, sorry I was wrong if news does land in the next 7 days?

Sorry I meant to finish off by saying Selfish point of view because in the end, be it 6 months, 1 year, 2 years I will want to sell Hemo, and I want it to be as healty a SP as possible then.

Yes? I post because its what I want, I post from a very selfish point of view, the fact is however that what I post is aimed to benifit the PI not the pump and dumpers or unicorn chasers and I make no apologies for that. Whiles you say it does not hurt any share in the long run thats clearly false. It has hurt Hemogenyx this past fortnight. Blatant pump and dumping caused a spike to 14p followed by a crash with sustained selling then more complete baseless deramping before finally stabilising for a while around the 9p mark. There is an excellent chance that Hemo wanted to do the placing much earlier but could do nothing while the SP was so volatile so they delayed business actions based on ramping and deramping. That delay could easily cause long term damage to the SP based on what impact it had internally. Also there was news released that would have increased SP WITHOUT the ramping, there was news in the end of year result that landed on the deramping afterwards which had next to no impact because the investors had already been burnt.
Please dont insult me or other investors by saying ramping and deramping does not hurt any share in the long run.

RE "You have just posted on SNG " or results are bad I'll probably take the hit,
sell and walk away..."
lol if you read the rest of what I posted you will see i said tiny amount, we are talking like a 300 quid trade as my account was pretty much tapped out but wanted to put something in for a bit of fun. If i lose like 50 quid and its worth like 250 and going nowhere i probably would sell at a loss lol but I dont really count that. I have a share where I am currently 2.5k down, it was 500 up before the crash in feb, if the FTSE takes another tumble it will probably go down a bit more, but fundamentally its a good company and will bounce back, still operating and suspended dividends this year.

I do like to be accurate so I will apologise for being a little inaccurate. So let me clarify:
TO DATE:
I have sold ZERO Shares at a loss
I held Microfocus through a loss but they bounced back and I made a profit
I held Diagio when they crashed at the start, they bounced back and I made a tiny profit but wanted the cash for Hemo
I hold other shares where there is a paper loss of approx 3k total
I bought shares in Northern Lynx and it cost me like £6k, it was a boiler house scam and the shares got delisted so never got a chance to sell, they are gone, but I never sold.
Hemo - I am currently ~20k in profit but no intention of selling any time soon.

Regarding ramping. The one thing I have found is that ramping hurts share prices in the long run and only benifits the rampers. What I TRY to do is counter de-rampers who appear to be trying to force the price down to buy in and also TRY and calm down some of the impulse buying when rampers are around so people dont get burnt. I didnt get burnt here in Hemo as I was already in but I do know people who did get burnt. IT would have been much better for all if there had been slower organic growth and not a big spike and dump like we saw. It was not helped by the Craig and Bower sell off but certainly there was pump and dump at play also. As for putting people off, SOMETIMES that is my intention. I dont want people thinking hemo is the next unicorn, People MIGHT HAVE TO WAIT a few days or weeks for news, personally I want longer term investors that are here for the long ride to invest and maintain a good stable HIGH SP going forward not fickle day investors who yes may force the price up one day but could do the exact same in reverse the very next day.

I topped up at 11p too, granted my current average is about 5p but I still had the buzz at 11p so I understand.
What I have seen lately on here is that SP can change on drop of a pin. I think 7p is an absolute bargin based on what I trust is coming, however that does not reflect in the SP. I have to choose to believe that I have:
1, More patience than most in the market
2, Done more research than most in the market
3, Made rational decisions based on research not emotions.
Which is why my decision is hold. I see de-rampers etc come and go, but never with research, never with facts. Sometimes with some BS chart. But I keep coming back to whats in front of me in black and white and it always settles my nerves. 11p is a good price, not today but in a few months. I am in the red with several shares, some from over a year ago. I never sell for a loss, I may hold for ever but I never accept a loss.

Decided to put a small holding here as I was happy to see a BoD finally putting in some damn dates. Ok not an exact date but very close "Results from the hospital setting are expected in July 2020"
Good enough for me. Small holding, not enough to cry about if I lose it all but ill come back in July, either results are good in which case I will hold or sell depending on if i need the cash at the time. Or results are bad and ill probably take the hit, sell and walk away but atleast I know I am not waiting 12 months to find out!