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I've seen a few posts mentioning multipliers of 5-10x the forwards earnings. Surely companies only get multiples for their earnings if they're expected to be indefinite or grow over time? With our patents having an expiry date, we know when the payments will stop. I would have thought our market cap uplift from this settlement would just represent the past damage value (e.g. 1 billion) plus the sum of the likely future revenues (say 100 million a year for 10 years). So 2 billion added to the market cap in this example.

The only way i can see a multplier is on the expectation othat Samsung will sell a lot more tvs in future years (possible, but i wouldnt have thought enough to warrant a 10x multiplier).

Took me until midnight to read all the posts yesterday. At one point I got stuck on page 9 for an hour because new comments were being posted faster than I could read them...

I was slightly bemused that the SP didn't actually increase that much, although I guess the market doesn't have much of a clue about the settlement value. It has convinced me to put a limit order for some more shares on for Monday though - I'm sure I've bought nano shares for more in the past, and there's far less uncertainty now than there was back then. Seems like a good bet to me

Wow. Big news. I was kind of looking forward to seeing how the court case unfolded, but this way is a lot less stressful!

Will be very interesting to see how the market reacts and what the actual settlement is

Yes I noticed that as well Sammy. Not sure why Samsung would want each claim answering separately in question 1 though. Doesn't seem as obvious.

When will the Judge decide on this? Tomorrow?

The lawyers will get their set slice whether we win or lose (maybe a bonus if we win). The backers maybe, but BT seemed to suggest that once they had agreed to fund the case, they stayed out of it unless Nano ask them for opinions/assistance

Regarding Samsung QD products other than TV's. Will the court case actually help Nano get paid for these, or would that require further court cases?

If the court case finds Samsung guilty of infringing nano IP in their TVs and orders a forward licensing fee. Surely that would only affect TV's, leaving Samsung to continue infringing on other products such as car displays etc...

The alternative ending to that poem Feeks...

If you can make Quantum Dots and keep all the profits,
Or talk with judges - but not lose your contempt for justice,
If neither courts nor small companies can hurt you,
If all patent holders want to work with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of IP theft,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And-which is more-you'll be a Sam, my sung!

MC, I don't think anyone has stated anything as 'fact'. If you look through the posts on this page, the majority have phrases like 'if', 'I guess', 'maybe', 'I think' etc. Of course people here are confident (otherwise they shouldn't be invested in the stock). But it is wrong to portray this belief as certainty.

Like groundhog day isn't it?!

To be fair, it must be a lot easier for Nanos lawyers. Its always easier to present the truth. Samsungs lawyers have to try and find loopholes and obfuscate to win.

Will we be able to view minutes etc from the AGM anywhere?

Got my Samsung neo-qled TV delivered today. My word, the colours are stunning. Reds and greens really pop compared to my old led TV. Good job Nanoco!

No 2 all day long. I bought mhc (concepta) as a growth stock. I want them to use money for growing the business. Let's put it this way, choosing number 1 would be suggesting that I thought I could pick investments better than Penny and Co. I do not think that.

Gold, frankincense and Quantum dots for the baby jebus

Great stuff. With Christmas, 6th Jan will come around in no time. At least it'll shake off the back to work blues!

Yes halfpenny deserves to get burned for his bipolar and incessant ramping/deramping.

I'm guessing they will have appealed it. I highly doubt Samsungs very expensive legal team would let appeals just slip their mind haha.

Although I couldn't find any record of the appeal on the ptab website. Maybe it takes a while to be recorded.

The millions of pounds in MHC's bank account suggest some people were willing to do that Paul1. We just need news on the new products now.

Interesting article about quantum dot solar cell manufacturing suggesting Nano are filing lots of patents in the area. We might all have QDs on our roof soon! Will be interesting to see if anything comes of it anyway.

https://www.power-technology.com/data-insights/innovators-quantum-dot-solar-cell-manufacturing-power/

I like to think of it as an indirect donation to the Nanoco investors benevolent fund

I (slightly treacherously) ordered a Samsung neo qled TV yesterday. It's out of stock, so won't be delivered until mid December. I wonder which will come first - the court case or the TV??? At least it's a good sign that they're selling well.