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HTF is Extreme E getting an R&D prototype HFC a ramp?

HTF is Extreme E getting an HFC EV Charger later next year, when they are already using an AFC EV Charger a ramp?

You have a big problem with that massive chip on your shoulder, and your ego. Get some help FFS. Back on filter, where you belong, DH.

I just watched the crazy race and the two semi finals, great racing all round! The final will be great!

Extreme E use solar and electrolyser to create Hydrogen which is then stored and used to charge the EV's. If they continue using this method then there is no need for them to use Ammonia (or Methanol). We would need to know the cost and logistics of storing and shipping water vs Ammonia (or Methanol) to be certain, but water keeps it cheap and simple.

The HFC will be available for deployment in Q1 2022. Extreme E's first races next year are 19-20 Feb and 7-8 May.

The L Series is big and much heavier than the S Series will be, about 5x bigger. Reducing the weight of the system by 80% will reduce emissions from the St Helena and land transport to race sites.

Initially I would expect Extreme E to keep the L Series but add an S Series HFC (not an EV Charger, an off-grid generator), and during the first few races use them side by side. Once tested in extreme conditions, AFC can then build them an HFC EV Charger in a small container, perhaps a liquid cooled one later in 2022 if the air cooled gets a bit hot under the collar in the hot places.

Great find Mucksy!

"Hydrogen will not be a viable alternative to fossil fuels until at least 2040."

I think AFC shot that claim down in smoke, because we don't need 99.999% pure Hydrogen, we can use cheap dirty 97.5% purity, we can use Hydrogen direct from Ammonia or Methanol crackers without expensive gas clean up.

The Army were probably quite shocked to discover they could switch the Hydrogen so much quicker than they were expecting.

And there's big money to be saved. "Modern’ power solutions will provide significant savings in consumption and cost (reduce fuel consumption for HQs by c80%)."

And the uptake should be substantial when you factor in these:
The Army will need to conform to UK legislation.
• No purchase of fossil fuel engines after 2035.
• All new equipment to be net zero by 2035.
• All new equipment to be modular in design, to allow replacement and refurbishment of existing, allowing reuse by 2040. (AFC Fuel Cells are modular in design, and cartridge swappable for longevity of the system and for resilience)
• All existing equipment to be retrofitted or phased out by 2045. (a massive amount to transition to low CO2 power)

Before the derampers appear, the document is dated 26/04/2021, hence AFC do not appear in it. I'm sure after this weekends X-Prix where the Army will be taking a good look at our EV Charger, we will be added to the list as a supplier and R&D (developing Army specific solutions) partner.

Back on their word dozens of times, talks a load of s**te, is a troll and a con man. Credibility rating -5,000,000. Not someone to put even a micron of trust in, or forgive.

RR,

Absolutely, and my view is that the Website provides a perfectly good corporate image, enough for interested parties to direct their staff to get working with AFC to come up with a suitable solution for their needs. The Website is likely only a 0.000001% factor in any sale.

Oh clueless one, AB is not an engineer.

"Prior to joining Linc Energy, Adam was a commercial consultant and executive providing commercial and financial leadership in the delivery of large, complex infrastructure projects, predominantly within the energy sector, across the UK and internationally. Roles included leading the UK's first commercial scale CCS demonstration project on behalf of the UK Department of Energy and Climate Change. Originally from Australia, Adam relocated to London in March 2007."

"Adam has a wide experience in the provison of commercial, legal, financial and strategic advisory services to the international energy and utilities sector. Adam has advised on a range of complex infrastructure projects in the conventional energy, water, renewable energy and waste sectors in particular. Adam's experience ranges from the provision of policy advice to Government in the areas of market design and regulation, through to complex project structuring, taxation, M&A, corporate strategy, project finance and infrastructure procurement."

You also don't seem to understand what a backlog of orders actually is? It is sales that have ALREADY HAPPENED, and the systems are waiting to be built. So ITM don't need any sales people, they need to increase the speed of production so that the backlog is reduced.

And as per my post on the other thread:

It's a 'corporate' Website, it's not an online sales platform and it shouldn't be designed like one. The information is there on the products and the uses, and if anyone wants to know more they are advised to contact AFC to discuss requirements, because AFC FC's are not a 'one size fits all' system that you can sell on a Website.

Do those here moaning about the Website think that the CEO's or Directors of ABB, Acciona, De Nora, Extreme E, Juelich, Ricardo, et al, the people that sign the agreements and sales deals, ever look at the AFC Website? Of course they don't, they couldn't give a flying fook about how fancy the AFC Website is, all they are interested in is working with AFC to get a system configured that fits into their strategic requirements, at a price that fits within their budget.

johnny,

Absolutely!

It's a 'corporate' Website, it's not an online sales platform and it shouldn't be designed like one. The information is there on the products and the uses, and if anyone wants to know more they are advised to contact AFC to discuss requirements, because AFC FC's are not a 'one size fits all' system that you can sell on a Website.

Do those here moaning about the Website think that the CEO's or Directors of ABB, Acciona, De Nora, Extreme E, Juelich, Ricardo, et al, the people that sign the agreements and sales deals, ever look at the AFC Website? Of course they don't, they couldn't give a flying fook about how fancy the AFC Website is, all they are interested in is working with AFC to get a system configured that fits into their strategic requirements, at a price that fits within their budget.

Some people don't seem to realise that the vast majority of AFC deals are done through the CEO's connections such as the Hydrogen Association, through or via partners like ABB and Extreme E, etc, or will be people AB or other staff have presented to.

We are not selling Chinese t-shirts and we are not selling to Joe Public, we don't need a Website that is full of marketing blurb and false claims, we just need a Website that lists our products and markets, WHICH IT DOES. Every customer has a bespoke overall requirement, which is what AFC are offering them. Anyone interested will contact AFC to discuss exact requirements and pricing, many of them will never visit the Website, and if they do it will be to find the Contact page.

We already had 50 qualified sales leads in June, on top of the list of already announced clients, if the Website mattered that much, we would not have got those lined up.

Extreme E video, check out the bit from 22m 50s onwards!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wakvd9wWHH8

AFC already have way too much on their plate to need a marketing department yet. Do you lot always put the cart before the horse??

I don't expect you all to have project training, but you still need to understand that there's no point in having mass marketing if you don't have the products in mass manufacturing yet, as all you do is create hundreds of thousands of enquiries but don't have the manpower to deal with them, or the manufacturing to supply them.

(BTW, I have PRINCE2, MSP and M_o_R all at Practitioner level, before anyone asks)

One sale to Bloom is no big deal, neither is 100,000, because the market is MASSIVE. Pointing out every sale that a competitor makes is meaningless when the market is so big, and all FC manufacturers are still so small.

Just look at the backlog of orders for Bloom, FCEL, BLDP and PLUG, these back order levels are huge, they just can't make the FC's fast enough without investing a billion into manufacturing, which they don't have. AFC are selling into different markets too, which the others are not really looking at, as they have their plates full already with the backlogs and existing sales pipelines.

Klunk,

I was inspired by reading the Wiki's on Alejandro Agag and Nico Rosberg and seeing info about their investing activities, plus already knowing about the investing done by Prince Charles and Lewis Hamilton from previous researching.

ItsallBull,

Yes, he could be a Major investor! :-D

Coco,

Interesting! Why Richard Branson? I've not seen him linked to AFC anywhere? Where do you think he'd have heard of AFC? Does he watch ExE or something?

Unless we visit the Registrars and ask to see the list of shareholders we can't say for sure which, if any, famous people hold AFC stock, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a few, either by name or via their (offshore?) companies and trusts.

Prince Charles
Prince William
Alejandro Agag (had his own investment company a while back, so knows the game)
Lewis Hamilton
Nico Rosberg
[other Extreme E people]

Anyone else you want to add?

Seems to be plenty of avenues for Nico to push AFC systems into.

In retirement, Rosberg's love of engineering and innovation saw him become an eco-entrepreneur[137] by investing in positive change to the environment and society.[138] He used his celebrity status to advance the industry,[136] beginning with a fact-finding visit to Silicon Valley,[137] where he tested and observed the construction of electric and self-autonomous vehicles.[139] In July 2017, he visited the headquarters of the all-electric Formula E racing series,[140] and became fascinated in the e-mobility movement.[141] Rosberg became a long-term investor and shareholder in Formula E in early 2018.[141] Focusing primarily on Europe,[19] Rosberg has invested in multiple start-up technology and e-mobility companies,[120][142] and had the idea to launch the annual Greentech Festival trade fair,[138] which he did with the entrepreneurs Sven Krüger and Marco Voigt in February 2019 to showcase sustainable technologies from around the world in Berlin.[120][143] He replaced Frank Thelen as an investor on the German television programme Die Höhle der Löwen ('The Lions' Cave') in late 2019.[144]

In October 2017, Rosberg joined Team Rosberg as an adviser for its ADAC GT Masters sports car championship team in 2018.[145] He also joined the management team of the racing driver Robert Kubica that September. Rosberg assisted in Kubica's desire to return to F1 after a severe 2011 rally accident left the latter with partial movement in his right arm.[146] He reduced his involvement with Kubica in April 2018 to focus on his business career.[147] Since the 2018 season, Rosberg has analysed select F1 races for Sky Sports F1 in the United Kingdom, RTL in Germany, and Sky Italia in Italy.[148] He impressed viewers for conveying digestible information to them.[11] That same year, Rosberg co-founded the Rosberg Young Drivers Academy with karting mentor Dino Chiesa to scout and support young go-kart drivers.[149] In April 2019, Rosberg declined an offer from the Head of Audi Motorsport Dieter Gass to drive an RS5 DTM as a wild-card entrant in the Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters (DTM) because he did not feel fit enough to return to racing.[150]

In late 2020, he established Rosberg X Racing formed on parts of the structure of his father's DTM team to compete in the all-electric SUV off-road racing series Extreme E from the 2021 season on.[151][67] He entered the series because of its promised racing action and wanted to help combat some of climate change's effects collectively.[152]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nico_Rosberg#Retirement_from_motor_racing_(2016–present)

Coco,

Yeah, there's loads of festivals in Germany that could use the AFC system.

"..... more than 10,000 German festivals to choose from throughout the year"

https://www.expatica.com/de/lifestyle/holidays/german-festivals-105435/

Nice find Chucky!

"The Extreme E therefore focuses on sustainability. What do you like best there?"

"For example, that we are playing a pioneering role in the power supply for the event. The whole event is powered by hydrogen. The fuel cell generators are from AFC Energy and run completely CO2-neutral. This is awesome and can be a positive example for other sporting events such as the European Football Championship or the Bundesliga. Sport in particular offers an opportunity to draw attention to the problems in our world and to show solutions, because we have such a huge range and power. So our sport serves the future."

If AB signed several MOU's during and in the follow up to COP26, and AB made it policy a long time ago not to announce MOU's, then why announce this one? Something brewing here? MOU about to become some kind of material agreement?

".... at the COP26 conference, our CEO engaged in several meetings during the event which saw, amongst other things, a high-level Memorandum of Understanding signed with Her Highness Sheikha Shamma bint Sultan bin Khalifa Al Nahyan, CEO of Alliances for Global Sustainability and member of the Royal Family of the United Arab Emirates, in support of the growth potential of the hydrogen economy in the UAE."

This will be useful "Abu Dhabi to build $1 billion green hydrogen and ammonia plant"

https://gulfnews.com/business/energy/abu-dhabi-to-build-1-billion-green-hydrogen-and-ammonia-plant-1.1622012713991

And of course, Dutco and BK Gulf are based in UAE, and Ataaqa operate in UAE.

If AB signed several MOU's during and in the follow up to COP26, and AB made it policy a long time ago not to announce MOU's, then why announce this one? Something brewing here? MOU about to become some kind of material agreement?

".... at the COP26 conference, our CEO engaged in several meetings during the event which saw, amongst other things, a high-level Memorandum of Understanding signed with Her Highness Sheikha Shamma bint Sultan bin Khalifa Al Nahyan, CEO of Alliances for Global Sustainability and member of the Royal Family of the United Arab Emirates, in support of the growth potential of the hydrogen economy in the UAE."

This will be useful "Abu Dhabi to build $1 billion green hydrogen and ammonia plant"

https://gulfnews.com/business/energy/abu-dhabi-to-build-1-billion-green-hydrogen-and-ammonia-plant-1.1622012713991

And of course, Dutco and BK Gulf are based in UAE, and Ataaqa operate in UAE.