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SonofaGun,

That's because trolls and con men want to make this board as negative as possible before trading restarts tomorrow. They must be concerned for their trading positions what with the rises on the German Bourses LOL!

Tradegate +12,21 %
Frankfurt +13,61 %
Xetra +8,40 %
Stuttgart +11,03 %
München +7,53 %
Berlin +2,22 %
Düsseldorf +10,75 %
Lang & Schwarz +10,95 %

Tradegate might have an effect, if a lot of stock is traded there. Do you really think the MM's don't have Tradegate and the other Bourses on their screens, as well as the USA OTC listing? They need to have that in case there's a sudden drop or jump on one of them, hinting at good/bad news or rumour at one of these places outside of the UK.

Pretty obvious that there must be arbitration between the stock on LSE and that listed on German Bourses, even if it is not done directly but through third parties (ii's). You can't have stock selling in Germany at 25% more than the ASK price in the UK, because third parties (ii's) will just buy stock on LSE and sell it in Germany, which pushes up the price in the UK until the difference is erased.

https://www.finanznachrichten.de/aktienkurse-boersen/afc-energy-plc.htm

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The Army have seen and tested the AFC EV Charger, they are also testing an increasing number of EV's at the Battle Lab, so how's about an order very soon from them for their own EV Charger at the Battle Lab? They will need something to charge the increasing number of EV's with, and they would also want to do longer term testing of zero emissions off-grid power generation, so seems like a no brainer order to me.

Army bases have a lot of space, so the L Series is perfectly fine for those locations.

For missions I'd expect them to go with small HFC and S Series (not 200kW, more like 10kW or 20kW) that are much easier to air drop and then transport. So they should be one of the first in line for an HFC order in January.

They could even place an order for 1 x L Series EV Charger, 1 x HFC Prototype and 1 x S Prototype at the same time, all for the Battle Lab.

Daz is just another con man trader that will try anything if he thinks it can help his trading position by affecting sentiment. Check his historic posts and it's easy to see that. I filtered the con man years ago.

And other Bourses too. Frankfurt up 10.71% on just over 300k traded.

Select the Kurse tab on this page:

https://www.finanznachrichten.de/aktienkurse-boersen/afc-energy-plc.htm

Looks and sounds AMAZING!!

USA too then:

https://jankel.com/2021/10/07/jankel-and-williams-advanced-engineering-collaborate-to-bring-ev-technologies-and-capabilities-to-the-us-defence-market/

Fud,

With Fuel Cells there is massive market opportunity for all Fuel Cell manufacturers, many multi-billion pound markets, so we won't be looking at 'winners and losers' for likely a decade, it will be impossible to call a stock a 'loser' until markets are becoming saturated, which will take that long, such is the market size.

Currently there are no winners, just companies that are further along the commercial path than others, but all still very small in relation to the size of the market, still only taking a minuscule percentage of the potential over the next decade or two, still being regional instead of global, still only having a very small number of factories, still all losing money, all with a lot of company growth and hurdles ahead (biggest being profitability) before they have any chance of being declare a winner.

We saw the Army truck parked in front of the EV Charger in the Extreme E behind the scenes video at 16m 39s.
https://insideevs.com/news/556861/extreme-e/

I said at the time that I wondered if the truck was charging from the AFC system.

I've been doing some research on this vehicle and it is a Jankel Fox TUV - fully Electric demonstrator. So I'd say it's a very good bet that it was indeed recharging at the time, and the Army chap in the video was monitoring the charging progress.

The same truck can be seen just over 1/3 of the way down this page (which is worth reading if you have time);
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/interactive/2021/climate-change-military-emissions-security/

Here it is again:
https://www.gettyimages.dk/detail/news-photo/an-electric-powered-jankel-fox-tuv-tactical-utility-vehicle-news-photo/1358973727

And here it is being presented by Mr Jankel himself, at 1m 23s on the video:
https://youtu.be/fAsCn816C9s

Great to see the Army already getting first hand experience of using the AFC EV Charger!!

Fud,

Possibly AFC will be bought out at some point, but you have to look at the other FC companies further along the commercial path to see that it's unlikely to happen near term (none of them have been bought out), due to technology risk, companies losing big money every year ($100m in the case of some USA FC companies), and in AFC's case the uncertainty of systems over the long term (you can't prove longevity 100% until you have had systems deployed commercially over many years, the lab statistics are pointers to 'expected' longevity, not absolute fact). So I would put takeover at a minimum of 3 years away.

On the acquisition front, we already have our own Fuel Cell IP, Ammonia Cracker IP and Electrolysis IP. We have likely now got 100+ staff to manufacture or assemble our products, so we don't need anyone else's production lines or IP. Battery Storage is best left to Battery Storage companies like ABB and MSP. We don't need to be masters of everything. There's no business types I can think of right now that AFC need to acquire or would benefit from acquiring. It's always possible that something may be spun out of University Research (such as that done by Professor John Varcoe) that AFC could acquire, and this is where AFC will always be looking for potential, rather than existing add-ons, as AFC's core operating principle is to outsource as much as possible, not bring it all in-house.

"Five Climate Moves by the Biden Administration You May Have Missed"

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/01012022/biden-buttigieg-infrastructure-climate-evs/

SonofaGun,

"What happened to the Estonia fuel cell?"

As it was integrated with an ABB EV charger and ABB battery storage, I'd say the most likely scenario is that ABB still have it up and running as a test/demo system.

ABB have invested in rapid development of the S Series, but that does not stop them from demonstrating the integrated L Series to their clients, where it suits those clients' requirements, and subsequently selling it or leasing it to those clients that want a solution NOW rather than early 2023.

ABB never said they were not going to sell the L Series, all they said is that they want the S Series available much sooner. A year is a long time to keep clients waiting. It is much better for business and customer relations to offer them the L Series right now on lease 'where it fits', with an option to upgrade to a S Series in 2023 on lease or outright purchase.

Happy New Year to everyone at AFC Energy.

Happy New Year to all genuine AFC long term Shareholders.

Totally sh*t New Year to everyone that posts lies, fiction and BS on here.

athansius is just another one I got fed up with the BS and filtered.

If anyone wants a New Year resolution, try "I will filter trolls and con men, instead of replying to them".

The S Series will sell by the truckload, that is why ABB have thrown £4m into the pot to get it fast tracked to 200KW units, DUH! It's also why we have an agreement to build the ZeroCoaster. Do you think these companies have not already been to AFC and SEEN the S Series working, and READ all of the technical data that AFC have produced on the S Series prototypes? People don't make these agreements based on nothing.

First of all though, the HFC will go out on sites under lease agreement from Jan/Feb 2022. The HFC is based on the S Series stack, it just uses a different chemistry so it can run on cracked Methanol without degrading at a higher rate than required. AFC should be able to shift loads of these because the lease option means no big CAPEX for the client.

As many here know, I have held AFC for 12 years (13 years in March 2022).

AFC is now in the position I had hoped it would be in, many times throughout that 12 years. The waiting is over as far as it goes regarding having a commercial product to sell.

We also have agreements with big partners to sell our FC systems into several multi billion pound markets. We also have some BIG clients on our list, plus 50+ qualified sales leads.

Sales in 2022 should easily push AFC into the Fuel Cell billion pound market cap group, joining most of our peers, as it is only the absence of sales that differentiates AFC from it's peers.

Any long term holder that sold now would have to be in very desperate need of the money, as no other reason I can think of right now would justify losing out on most likely the biggest year AFC has had since it listed on 24 April 2007.

Mace are poised to do just that.

I would not be surprised if some UK construction MOU/NDA relationships are converted to orders not long into 2022.

Kev,

"their impatience, their fear, their lack of conviction, their lack of understanding and research. "

It's none of that, it's all just day traders and short term traders thinking up as much fiction and negative spin as they can, because they think posting it on here will help them make their trades pay off before news hit the RNS wire. They don't actually believe any of the garbage they post on here, so neither should anyone else. No point getting wound up by BS, just put them on filter and carry on regardless.