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Go find a grown-up to explain it you, idiot. (no, andy.p, I don't know if he posts links or not, I can't be bothered to read him most of the time).

LOL !

Oh god, Isengard, that way lies madness, lol. You're trying to unmake spaghetti there (no disrespect meant, but you'll drive yourself mad trying to unravel who owns what and who owes who and which way is up).

Hi Andy.p. Welcome back, hope you had a good holiday. what's up with the roof ? I'm not posting much these days, just trying to keep 'em real, lol. Isengard is still making his contributions, which is the one bright spot when I catch up on the goings-on here.

Hi Isengard. I just wanted to point out to those who know everything about everything that they may be wrong if they think there's a law firm out there that would take a case like this on 'pro bono'. Well, maybe Ellen Brokovich, or whatever her name was, maybe her diary's free at the moment ? Sadly it's just more wishful thinking on their part. Like 14 dollar magic oil, the power of asog, etc. etc.

I'm sure it's going to be really difficult for you, but perhaps a grown up on this board would like to read more than the first few words to get to the fees paid. (Many other references to fees out there). But hey, what would I know, lol. Idiot. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/8212427/Scrutiny-for-Lloyds-Action-Nows-1m-fund.html

Maybe I'm wrong, but didn't it cost each investor about £250 to sign up, plus an additional 3p per share ? 6 years on, not much forward momentum. Just saying. Lol.

Hmmmm, let's see now, why would a law firm take on the case ? Shot in the dark here, shoot me down if you like, but how about they see a group of mugs and want to seperate them from the last of their cash ? Just thinking out loud, the lloyds legal action group has been going down this road for, what, seven years now ? And where have they got, so far ? I happen to think lloyds group has a case, much more of one than afren group. after all, back in 2013 issues were raised about the directors dealings in fhn, where were you all then, calling for an investigation ? Hmmm ?

That's what you should now be asking yourselves, in regard to the 'legal action' route. Justice ? Possibly. Accountability ? Revenge ? Yeah, whatever, lol. But you're not going to get your investment back, or any part of it. As long as you realise this unpalatable truth, then all power to you all on your righteous quest. Otherwise, just accept reality, and move on with your investing life.

it is nice to see (most) are sharing views and opinions with Isengard, maybe you'll see he has a lot to offer if he's read instead of shouted down and abused for no good reason. Yeah, wierd one, this post, isn't it ? lol.

And that's your in-depth, forensic analysis, is it peteb308 ? And I quote '..............please this was always a "**** or bust" after 13th March (and arguably prior). double or quits each turn of the card'. Will that little gem be the included in your 'help' book for private investors ? 'The thought of peteb308, petrol station booth attendant'. LOL. Goodnight all.

Catch ya later Isengard.

Unfortunately your collective egos as asog far outshone your ability to mount any meaningful campaign, or try to find any course of meaningful dialogue with any other concerned party. You offered hope where there was none, threats when you were toothless, I called you a bunch of dangerous amateurs at the very start of your campaign. Today, i think I was being generous in that description.

I think you told people that a no vote would likely destroy afren and leave the bondholders with nothing. I think you were WRONG. I think you've misdirected your sheep and cost them ownership of afren. what do you think peteb308, petrol pump man ?

Tell me, did you point out to 'people' that legal moves at the end of June had been set in motion by afren and the creditors to convene and vote on the future of afren on July 29 ? Did you 'tell people' that afren may well continue as a going concern, under voluntary agreement between creditors and the company, whatever the vote ? Or did you 'tell people' that a no vote would be highly likely to force bondholders back to the table, or destroy afren if they didn't come back to the table ?

You're '....trying to help people understand......' YOU ? lol. I'm here to try and keep dishonest people honest, no mean feat given the task you present me with, lol.

Isengard, if asog say it's all over, maybe you should have that lingering doubt and denial - Seriously.

Now, isn't THAT an interesting statement ? Sounds like at least one asog member wants afren wound up, and quickly. Then again, that was their stated aim from the beginning.

I'm here to stop the lunatics totally taking over the asylum, lol. That is the polite answer. Why are you so concerned ? Do I ask anyone the reason for them being here ?

Compared to 99.9% of this board who are in total denial, your small lingering denial is fair enough, lol. Seriously though, at least you're reasoning through every eventuality, and maybe you're seeing something, which wouldn't surprise me, lol.