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Just join the dots folks. The company has been beavering away behind the scenes for a long while now, cultivating relationships with some pretty big hitters, the staff numbers have increased massively, and one needs to ask, what are they all doing? They can't all be doing R&D work, so they must surely be constructing something, and it logically follows that they must be constructing something saleable. There's a limit to the amount that they can stockpile, so we must surely be at the point where deployments on a scale not seen before must, in my opinion, be pretty imminent.

I was previously very scepitical about the product offering, simply because it wasn't in the form originally envisaged (namely an on demand supply) but now having come to terms with the fact that the limitations of the cell architecture mean that the quid pro quo for an affordable fuel cell is an element of trickle charge / battery requirement, I now see how the market ( without my preconceived prejudices) would see this as a great asset in the thrust towards net zero.

Big construction is seriously interested.....watch this space folks!

Peel Hunt have been very conservative in my view, thus things going to blow (and blow big) very soon. The portfolio of products in increasing, and the company has identified many potential new areas to develop into, so all looking good…..shorters beware, get out now or run the risk of losing your shirts!

Go on Jim, You sock it to 'em..... we all know that this little company is well and truly on the launch pad, and the sky's the limit.....

Daz....What's wring with you? Can't you see that the staff are actually the engine that drive the business forward, and are the ones developing the products that are going to fly off the shelves, and accordingly need incentivisation? From my side of the fence, happy staff who can see jam tomorrow will be more productive, and if we make money by hanging on their coat tails, then all well and good.

I believe that we are now on the cusp of great things, and hockey stick ahoy!

To all you naysayers, I say review the situation, this is great news, it opens the door to so many avenues to income, and I suspect that there are many tings going on in the background that we don't know about; this is a pivotal moment.

Has anyone thought about domestic applications? I'm sure the company has, and this is key. A CHP would have the advantage of producing not only electricity but heat, and also water, so what could be better? Think about it, heat pumps aren't massively efficient, and are (generally) reliant on bought in electricity. Can you imagine the quantum leap forward of you could have a tank in the back garden, filled with ammonia that's then cracked into H2 that provides both electricity and heat? Do you not think that this is what the company has been working on?

My guess is that the next RNS will announce the development of the CHP to sit alongside the cracker, and at the point they have a working prototype, then the sky's the limit!

WoooHooo!

Now that’s what we’ve been waiting for!

Nothings gonna stop this thing now, it’s the last piece of the jigsaw. Obviously all of the new employees have been working on a stockpile of power towers ready for the Speedy JV, so I reckon that all of the time in the doldrums is now over, and the jam lorry is well and truly on the way!

Read the website.

The power tower isn't nameplated at 10KW, the website only says "up to 10KW" , which implies that the thing is unable to supply a sustained charge of 10KW without the use of the battery array....Show me where it's stated as being nameplated at 10KW......

Noj

I suspect that there is far more speculation on the rose tinted side of the fence....The fact that I am able to post things which the uber positive camp don't like because it doesn't support their narrative, which they have clearly been unable to debunk with hard evidence to the contrary shows the sad fact that everything the company says is shrouded with such ambiguity that the information can be interpreted in so many ways, that, until the acid test, neither side of the argument is right , and neither is wrong.

As for your comment on my "trickle charger" statement, again, you will be hard pressed to find any definitive evidence to support the argument that any of the units are capable of delivering and sustaining the nameplate instantaneous charge touted, so far from being a baseless bash, it is in fact another illustration of the smoke and mirrors approach that the company adopts.

Oh, and after I made my fortune with the planes, I fancied a change of career, so called into the job centre; I saw that they had a job as a farrier advertised, and thought it might be an interesting change, so enquired.....The person behind the desk asked if I had any experience in shoeing horses.....I had to say no, but did tell them that I once shoved a donkey out of the way....

B3

The difference is, I'm only answerable to myself, having reached what is effectively economic nirvana, so if I decide to waste a load of time lifting the veil of unbridled ill placed optimism, then it affects no one else a single jot. How about you? how does the time you waste on here defending the indefensible impact on the value you provide for your employers?

I'll let you into a secret, I my fortune by developing a new kind of ultra light model plane powered by an ultra efficient Li powered electric motor....it proved massively successful.......

In fact, they literally flew off the shelves.....

JN

Yup, highly successful narssacist….but one who appears to have called this one right to date.

Better than being a chippy bottom feeder…….

B3….difference is I run a very successful business…..what do you do, teach some kind of eco “studies” or something at a red brick former poly? Run a business, you couldn’t run a bath…..

At least my spokes, rims and tyres would be part of an assemble that would work, and I wouldn’t have to give a 50% discount….

B3

should R&D be done for free? Errr...yes. If you own the IP to the product, and you're hoping to sell the product, then shouldn't you foot the bill for the R&D for that product?

Now if it were a case that a company had an agreement to buy your product at a significant discount if they prove commercially viable, and you give them a 50% discount in the form of shares in your company (never mind the dilution folks), then I suppose there could be an argument for them to pay a bit towards the R&D cost....oh, yes, of course that's what happened, isn't it?

B3

OK, if you say so.

#nomultipleaccountsnot

B3….very kind of you to so rapidly spot the error on noj’s post and correct him so quickly……a cynic might think that it was a case of logging in under the wrong account…..if you get my drift…..

Noj

Those of a cynical disposition could take the view that the cells will never be anything other than trickle chargers, which is unfortunately totally at odds with the original USP which was the ability to provide an on demand supply. Ask yourself this, if the thing is reliant on batteries to store the charge, then why not just cut out the middle man and simply charge the battery directly? Surely it’s got to be cheaper and more efficient to have a battery array on the back of a lorry which is recharged offsite than having to continually deliver whopping great tanks of H2 to the trickle charger….

Noj.......Ahhh, I'd completely forgotten that the amazing tower of power has a low centre of gravity because of the inclusion of a whole load of batteries that it shouldn't really need if it was able to operate as an on demand supply, rather than a glorified trickle charger....

Garonne

You're completely wrong there......the company does absolutely loads of market reseach....its always researching what the next big thing is going to be so they're ready to spin off in a new direction when no one wants the current iteration they are touting...

Surf

I hear what you say, and believe it or not, am hopeful that this time is different, but the problem many long term holders have is that this company has a long and not so proud history of painting an overly optimistic view of their progress and the fear is that this time will simply be a case of history repeating itself. Leopards and spots, and all that.

I personally don't believe that AB is the problem, after all he's only the (admittedly massively overpaid) front end of an R&D company which has as a whole failed to deliver the marketable products, which really isn't down to him. The continued "jam tomorrow" mantra pushed out is irksome, but if it is the case that tings are proving more difficult to develop than anticipated what else can he do? admit this fact to the world and watch the share price tank, or be a bit economical and try to keep the balls up in the air? I say we need to be thankful that old rhino hide is still in harness, otherwise who knows where the share price would be...

OK, pedant, put it another way, is anyone actually paying any hard cash at all to use the things, having trialled them? Answers on a postcard please.....