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Ooooo…..touched a nerve there then……give me a valid counter argument then big boy…….

You simply sound like a bloke who bet the house on the wrong nag because the trainer told you it was going to win the national and now you’re railing against those who suggest that the nag might in fact be proto dog food…..

How underwater must you be to be this angry…..

It seems pretty irrefutable that the holy grail (always worries me when someone uses that phrase) of an IP protected piece of unique technology is some way off.

The company is using proprietary parts to build its kit, and therefore doesn’t really have a unique place in the market to exploit, certainly for the foreseeable future.

Now, if H2 is the next big thing, how confident are the investors that the company could survive an attack from larger companies with heavily financed R&D departments and more importantly very deep pockets, if H2 was to become anything other than a niche product, and one of these such companies decided that they wanted a slice of the pie (if not the whole pie, (Phillips VHS v Betamax, anyone?)

Alkamem…..of course it “works” and it’s “working” right now. The problem is that in all probability it’s not actually working in a commercially viable way, so, Garonne, in the parallel universe of grasping at any straw, I’m afraid that B3 (oh, sorry, Pommygit) is actually quite correct, and you are so very very wrong.

However, in the real world, it’s plain to see that commerciality if indeed it’s ever achieved will be a long, long way off. The sad fact is that, because the company is less than transparent about any of its performance metrics, we will never know the status of ANY of its products, which of course gives the Ubers scope for hope, and the paid bashing Helikon scum cause to doubt any words that come out of the company PR department, or the mouth of its CEO…NO WONDER THE MARKET IS SCEPTICAL….(not shouting, caps lock on)

So you accept that we are indeed 4 "clowns" coming from separate URL's then, as opposed to a single entity posting from multiple accounts...well that shoots that conspiracy theory doen then.....

Don't you just love it! Ginge makes out that he's able to trace the URL of posters and when pointed out that if he does, then he'll find that the gang of four aren't all the same person (as per the uber loons conspiracy theory),after all..... the post mysteriously disappears!

Funny, that.....

Yes indeed, really good post, showing that Geopura have a 250KW fuel cell up and running, and have it in place for a high profile event.......look on the bright side, it might just raise the profile of hydrogen enough to generate interest in the amazing towers of power (which are of course absolutely fine, so long as you don't want to boil more than three kettles at once!)

JN

I think you might be flattering yourself a tad when you say lowering yourself to our level….I think it’s probably more likely to be a mighty high climb…….

Cue poo emoji……

Pommygit (AKA B3 ver 2.0)

You mean that a basher paid good money?

Bondy

And there you have it.......Bond says he met the tax obligations on the share exercise.....I suggest you look up the tax obligations on the exercise of share options issued under an approved EMI and then tell me EXACTLY what the point of that statement was.

B£

A bit like you not knowing what cumulative output means then......I know whet cumulative output means, ABB know whet cumulative output means.......but it is, I'm afraid, the £2.0.M question that you failed to have grasped the answer to......

You crack on about the difference between membranes and electrodes all you want, I know the difference, you know I know the difference, and all you are achieving by continually quoting the same untruth is to make yourself look like a complete loon.....And no doubt you'll spout on about not going to the AGM, not paying to listen to yesterday's drivel and so on, and so on....

Hahahaha!

It's a subscription event.....so all of you acolytes actually had to pay to hear your glorious leader do what he does best, which is tell the crowd what they want to hear....you couldn't make it up! Talk about preaching to the converted....very convenient that no one outside the loop is likely to see the actual verbatim Q&A, so the whole thing is totally valueless to the outside world.

Reminds me of the modus operandi of a confidence trickster " I'll let you into a secret......here's something that will make you rich beyond your wildest dreams....but don't tell anyone (remotely sensible in case they laugh at you) or they will all want a slice of the action.....I've already got a slice of the action thanks.....unfortunately.....

It's just to show that anyone can post an equivalent to the uber's usual "bump" tool.....Take a step back, have a look at the content and highlight anything that can actually be proven as incorrect.

You lot keep posting the "Bump" twaddle and it may be that there will be a counter post forthcoming......

Sadly, there are a number of posters on this board who are consistently overly positive about the prospects of the company relentlessly posting every day, trying to bouy up a share that has been in decline for some considerable period of time through a mixture of overly optimistic interpretations of statements made by the company, partial truths, and misrepresentations. They put vast amounts of effort into stifling any voice that doesn’t accord with their view of the company’s prospects, relying on YOUR ignorance to affect your investment decisions.

These posters never accept any possible downside and their sole agenda is to maintain the illusion that this company is a valid investment candidate. It is unlikely that they are in the employ of anyone, because in all seriousness, from the quality of posts, most would seem unemployable, so why they continue with this charade is a mystery. The most likely cause for this irrational behaviour is that they have become too emotionally attached to the share and simply cannot allow themselves to believe that the share of their choice, which many may have spend money they can ill afford to lose, may not ultimately deliver the untold riches that they believe we once theirs for the taking.

The ting to remember is that, as a potential new investor, if you don’t invest, you miss out on a possible windfall in future (assuming that the company is able to deliver on its aspirations) but your money is not at risk. Invest in the company, and whilst there possibly maybe a profit to be had later, YOUR MONEY IS NOW AT RISK. These posters are potentially very dangerous to your wealth, if they wish to keep the faith, and keep their money at risk, then that’s fine, ask yourself, is it correct for them to paint an overly optimistic view of the company’s prospects just to keep the fantasy alive when it could encourage the unwary to invest in something that has been subject to an unjustified level of positive spin on a board? If you do feel like taking the plunge, you would be well advised to consider what they say very carefully, and if you do choose to invest, only invest what you can easily afford to lose.

Looks like the "Bump" merchants are at it again......crack on......it wont make a jot of difference to the underlying facts....

Red

"Where are these other deals you were on about, or is that more lies? Keep them coming, we’ll just put you right as and when!"

The fundamental fact is that the company has yet to generate any net margin out of any relationship it has had with anyone....This is a fact that cannot be denied (if you do not agree, please provide evidence of any deal that provided a net margin) and the relative scale of any deal, and relative strength of any partner (it's not even a partnership, its and agency agreement) is irrelevant when you look at the fundamentals which are a singular lack of ability to get anything over the line.....

You can get in a right hum all you want, but that wont alter the facts that until proven otherwise THE MARKET is sceptical of anything that the company says because of the complete and utter lack of transparency...

Xciting

Ah, the old "you didn't go to the AGM" chestnut......No, I didn't simply because anything stated at the AGM should be in the public domain, so not necessary so why waste time....

Ah, I see.......so when certain people have been defending the lack of sales to these companies who have the units out on test by saying that each customer "would need to run a unit for a while so that it could be tailored to their specific needs" (why they couldn't simply look at the nameplate spec and make a decision on that I have no idea!) they were either completely wrong in their assumptions, or were lying, knowing that these so called potential customers were never going to order......Funny, because when it was suggested that it was unlikely that any of the potential customers were likely to place an order, any poster saying such was derided as a heretic.....and all the while, having the units out on test for no net income was a cunning ruse by our glorious leader......Looks like a little bit of history reinventing itself to fit the prescribed narrative to me.....

Red

Answers on a postcard please......yes or no, or is that a bit too black and white for you?

Marley

And you've negotiated with Saudis then.....there's a fundamental difference between buying a piece of absolute frippery, when it's open cheque book, but when its in the B2B environment, it's a completely different story......why do you think OPEC exists? It's a cartel created in order to protect their assets, so, in answer to your point, I'm afraid, yes, they are indeed going to be mindful of getting value out of the deal.....

Red

Can you please clear something up. In your opinion, does the company, at this precise moment in time, actually have a single commercially viable product that is available for a customer to purchase? Simple answer, yes / no will suffice

Ginger

Are you suggesting that the latest deal is a joint venture? Now that's a completely different animal to an agency agreement which actually requires investment from the JV partners, as opposed to an agency agreement, which is merely a third party sales outlet, with a different level of investment.

The JV on the horizon is the speedy deal, but as per usual, great fanfare about the proposal, but scant detail at present, we haven't a clue who's putting what into the pot in what form, and we don't even know what form the pot will take. This is the fundamental problem with AFC. There is NEVER and clarity or transparency in what they say or publish, and the whole thing is so ambiguous that the envelope of interpretation is so vast that the Ubers can interpret one way, and we Helikon henchmen (oh, yeah, as if!) and interpret in a totally different manner, and neither can be proven to be correct or incorrect. There is a simple answer to this. All the company needs to do is inject a massive dose of transparency into the equation, and then, we henchmen will have no scope for deliberately twisting the fact to suit the needs of our employers, the Lizard people who run Helikon........Of course, the flip side to this is that the ramping crew would have nothing to spin up, so what a boring old board this would become......