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Klunk

As you well know, no contract will ever be allowed to fail, because that would be bad for the company. all that happens is that the terms of the arrangement are revised massively in favour of the other contracting party. The question is, how much more will ABB "invest" when the next unit is delivered, and there has to be another smoke and mirrors exercise about what its actually capable of.....

I think it was Garonne who suggested that maybe the ABB deal could be faltering, and some bright spark suggested that this would be price sensitive information and as such worthy of an RNS…..Pray tell me then , whenever any of the other deals / mou’s / products have fallen by the wayside has there ever been an RNS announcing the fact to the world? Simple answer is no, because the company’s modus operandi is just to let things either on the vine in the hope that they will all be forgotten about….

Yup, back to believing everything the company releases hook line and sinker……just hope that the next 50or so qualified leads prove more productive than the last…..you never know, we might actually have a commercially viable product this time…but then again, how many times have we been on the cusp before?

Nice to see we’ve hit 22 pence….AB will be mighty relieved at that, I guess….

I bet AB has had at least 50 qualified enquiries for the 1000 units……..

Mc Stocktake

Where does the buck stop? Usually the head honcho, but this one is never held accountable because of the apologist crew who can see no wrong

Klunk

It hasn’t pannned out at all….no fundamentals have changed at all….the simple fact is that THE COMPANY , ITS JV PARTMERS AND THEIR ADVISORS can’t even get a simple thing like a statutory filing requirement right…this is downright shoddy, if nothing else…..McSrocktake……I never said it was down to AB, because only a complete melt would think that…..

The sad fact is that supposedly intelligent people simply cannot differentiate between reality and a load of spin, and have just become a bunch of disillusioned apologists for the company and its overpaid spin doctor of a CEO…

Klunk\

So the psc notification was late and us wrong…..but never mind, AB’s been on a beano, so it’s all right then…..just the same as filing accounts late is OK,….Well not in my world it ain’t!

And its a shame that it was late......

Saw that.......shame it's wrong though....have you spotted the error?

Pommy....I couldn't have put it better myself.....The irony is that some people seem to think that he's doing a good job, and providing value to the shareholders.....

Oh yes, there will indeed be a report.....It'll go something like "flew out first class, so that I could be in with all of the other movers and shakers.......had a good lunch.....got the limo to the hotel....checked into my presidential suite....had a good dinner.....met some movers and shakers, had a chat about out solution for boiling kettles in the desert.....they all nodde enthusiastically, and then all had to go to the loo at the same time ...funny, never saw them again.......went back to the presidential suite....ordered supper......awoke in the morning....had a nice breakfast......met some more blokes at some do or other, mentioned in passing that we were developing a thing that takes hydrogen out of something, they seemed really interested, but then all saw someone that they all desperately needed to speak to...they never came back.....then it was lunchtime....and very nice it was too......Spoke to a few blokes about some joint ventures, and we all laughed about how way back in the good old days you could pull the wool over peoples eyes with a good old MOU, but now you have to go through all of the palava of pretending that you're actually going to do business with someone...Time for dinner...and very nice it was too.....went down to the piano bar, pressed the flesh a bit with the movers and the shakers.......all in all a very successful trip.....all I now need to do is actually get some bugger to actually buy one of our so called commercially viable products on remotely commercial terms and we're all laughing (and not just me...hahahahah!)

As the saying goes...."there are none so blind as those who will not see"......This thing is being manipulated, plain and simple. This isn't a case of the price rising because the world's getting moist about AFC, it's simply that someone is strategically nudging the price up in order to hit a pre determined target by a certain date at someone's behest...Who that may be is the big question............

Or alternatively its being spiked up because someone needs it to strike 22 pence for some reason or other.....

The fundamentals haven't changed, so why has there been an improvement in the share price....I have a feeling that 22 pence and 16 December might just be relevant for something or other.....any thoughts anyone?

B3

Don't start all that nonsense again! You know that you made up the bit about me not understanding how a blinking fuel cell works, simply as a smoke screen to mask the fact that you couldn't come up with a valid explanation of the phrase "cumulative output" even though you said you had spoken to a bloke who knew.....maybe he told you something you didn't want to hear.....The simple fact is that what was originally touted as an on demand supply is now reliant on some form of battery storage medium on order to deliver the same result. Basically, the product now being marketed bears no relation to the product that we all got suckered into believing would be the future. I would ask the question, at what point did the company know that its technology didn't work as being promoted, and at what point did they come clean to the shareholders.... The simple answer is a long time ago, and never, which the continue to get away with simply because they are continually defended to the hilt by apologists such as you who can see no wrong in what isn't being achieved, and are simply quite happy to be invaded with a wire brush by the company and its overpaid CEO or whatever he decides to be this week.

Heath

Or alternatively the cell can only act as a trickle charger and is incapable of meeting nameplate targets for instantaneous charge without the use of a whacking great battery buffer……definition of cumulative output (as per the ABB fanfare that prefaced the 32.0 m giveaway)?

Mc Stock......The king of wishful thinking......now tell me....how did the market react to the supposedly successful deployment of the ABB unit last year.....you know, the one that resulted in the £2.0M giveaway......

Pommy

To be absolutely fair, maritime is probably the only place where a fuel cell application might actually work, simply because of the relatively steady state requirement.....In all other circumstances, its all starting to look a bit chocolate fireguard.....

Heath

Just had a look at the link.....on the picture of the ship, are those all of the battery packs that the ship would need if it were to rely on a fuel cell for propulsion?

I say it again......once a fuel cell is reliant on a battery array to deliver the charge, why have the fuel cell at all, simply cut out the middle man, that avoids the need to use renewable energy to crack ammonia to get the hydrogen out that you put into a fuel cell to trickle charge a battery.....why not just trickle charge the battery?

Adastra

You won't get an answer on this board, I can assure you, simply because the answer to the question you pose doesn't suit the narrative.

No, it's not in the slightest bit green. The only truly green way is by electrolysis, but that's about as far of being commercially viable as a fuel cell.....which isn't very, is it......