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6 of GLG's Flagship funds were positive last week, adding to the excellent news of AHL and what do the mm's do? Slash Man's share price. What a fiddling lot they appear to be.

https://www.man.com/GB/presentations.>>>>> Results for the six months ended.30 June 2014........page 33 ............................................................................. 79% ($9.5bn) of AHL/MSS open ended FUM is eligible to earn performance fees, of which......: >>>>>>>/ 50% ($4.8bn) is at or within 5% of high watermark..... >>>>>>>/ Weighted average distance from peak 5.6% >>>>>>> Performance fee rate 18 - 20%. >>(.AHL Estimated Nav was approx $1.206 then)<<.

Re:dduck, Wel;l put. IMO chunky fees must be coming in already as by my reckoning 80%-90% of AHL funds must be thereabouts hwm. Still a strong buy at this low level of share price (in relation to AHLand past history, that is).

Hi Bigel, thought it was apt so left it in. However, the way it is going those tears could be for joy.

Thanks Bigel. MOR indicates the figure of $1.2662 is representative of an average of all 8 or so AHL funds I'd be very surprised if less than 75% were not at hwm now. Possibly more than 75%. Seeing as AHL has been in the %1.20's since beginning July, the yearly results could be 'enormous' for AHL. (In relation to the last 4 tears or so, that is).

Hi Bigel, your faith has been rewarded, AHL recovered 1.8% from Thursday.

After 9 trading days without loss. Even so Man's share price has a long way to go up to catch up.

Yes, I'm a trader Man's share price is nowhere near to what my shares were when I invested, after making a rational decision based on the Rules of the LSEx. . Financial institutions of Banks thought they were above responsibility in their scams such as PPI, Mortgages etc. Until they discovered they had responsibilities under such as the FCA and have had to compensate their customers who were affected by their actions. If LSEx fails in their duty then they are in the same position as the penalised banks. Therefore, as a rational trader I expect the LSEx to regulate within their rules not to what the 'irrational traders' dictate. As for Man's share price, it appears that it is being held down yet again this morning despite all the positives this week, the regulators cannot be seeing any other so they ought to be seriously doing something about it, within their rules. Therefore, like the banks did, it seems LSEx .is failing in its duty.

Up a smidging so battling on. See Man's share price still hasn't caught up with the other two rises this week.

Double buys to sells are shown on this page, (sells held back). However, in spite of improved performances of AHL & GLG,, mm's fear shorting and pull the share price down or restrict it from rising. When it appears that there is selling going on, (much of it having already happened but been sat on), the market will be flooded at an opportune time, (that happened yesterday).. So with the addition of those held back sells making it look like more selling than buying going on and easy for mm's to drop the price further. If that is not manipulating then I'll eat all my grandads county caps. Its not just happening to Man shares, so it appears that the failure of applying the regulations is encouraging more & more shorting and is unbalancing the market drastically. All my opinion after much research (and reading of recent posts). If the LSEx is short of regulators I'd willingly offer my services to help re-balance the system.

Typo for overall read average (of all eight funds). Like wise for last year.

Only a small rise of 0.3% however, against my expectations, especially when seeing what has happening to Man's share price today. The 8 funds showing as AHL are overall 13.43% up on the year so far. For all of last year they were down more than 4%. That is a magnificent achievement so lets hope it continues. As for the hwm, I don't think it can be compared with old values as none of those 8 funds have an Inception Date before July 2009. So AHL could well be at hwm. Be helpful if someone at Man explained. (PMF I cant).

Hi stevenmerrett, thanks for your post. I understand what your are describing and do not argue that point, as your explanation would seem to justify the point I am making that it is possible for the price to be manipulated. I do not believe that regulating the market is a simple job. The regulators are, however, paid to do that job. I invest, (after reading the LSEx rules thoroughly), on the premise that the regulators are up to the job of regulating this market fairly. If that is not being done, and imo it seems it is not being done, then that should be rectified. Otherwise, LSEx are not carrying out their 'Duty of Care' fairly to all and sundry who they invite to participate in their market procedures, (within the rules of their procedures).

Hi Bigel, the selling spree? is what the mm's seem to have been expecting all morning as I have. Why didn't the regulators? The sells have now caught up to the buys, (should we not read too much into that!). It seems though the the mm's have certainly read something into it as Man's share price is now almost 3% down despite of the positive news regarding AHL and GLG funds.

In the case of illogical and irrational behaviour of members of the London Stock Exchange regarding share price movement, could the LSEx be breaching its duty of care if they fail to ensure their regulators take actions against and to prevent such happenings?

10am: out of 374 trades; 482,762 are sells and 649,528 are buys yet the price is pulled down further to 114.60p whereas in all fairness the price ought to have risen from 115.70p not dropped due to the positive news. More evidence of blatant manipulation?

426,822 Sells 599,910 Buys which is reflective of the improvement in GLG Flagship funds and continued improvement in AHL, to $1.2452. Yet the mm's are still allowed to manipulate the Man's share Price down in spite of the positive funds performances.

GLG greatly improved last week, Ths morning, in 102 trades, there were 121,127 Sells and 192,405 Buys, yet the mm's still pull down Man's share price from 115.70p to 114.70p. Totally illogical. Actually, while the LSEx rules are clear enough, I am having a very difficult time finding out why the LSEx Regulators are failing regulate the market within those rules.

on week., also GLG's weekly performance greatly improved. However, as usual Man's share price is lagging behind again. About time GS or whoever it is comes clean.

the price is hauled down again. I'd consider myself cross-eyed if I couldn't see this. Time the Regulators visited Specs'