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Yes, Bigel, in view of that AHL's rise it looks like we are being cheated again. As for a takeover, my thoughts are based on the fact that Man is now under control of GLG people. My fears are if they are still connected with GS and are furthered by GS 'will have had insight to Man's business and structure due to their recent involvement and this continued pulling back down of Man's price for no good reason is suspicious to say the least.

and by another 1.1% in Thursdays dealings so why did the mm's pull down Man's price by almost 2% on the news.. One pool of thought is that it is being manipulated for a takeover bid. If it is, my thoughts are on Goldman Sachs at 33% premium. As the mm's keep pulling this price down to approx 112p, then 145p would seem to be the offer price. Whether it is for a takeover or not, the regulators should resign anon or be sacked as they are clearly not up to the job as far as I can make out..

We'ed be in the wrong position posting on here if we could judge where the bottom and top of any share price, let a alone this one, was reached. The only thing I am confidence of is when AHL reaches somewhere near to $1.30 it will be earning far more money than GLG, not forgetting that GLG is run by expensive humans, therefore does not contribute anywhere as much as AhL can.

It is not beyond noticing that many of the equities that have suffered vicious shorting are those that have or are trying to expand their business to the US, In such circumstances are we so much controlled by the fear of the US that our regulators are so hapless in ensuring a fair market for all. The US seem so much fairer in their own country so why are our regulators afraid of them.

Yes, AHL up another couple of pips to $1.2078 and apparently against the expectations of the mms, just look at how they pulled down Man's price late yesterday a movement that was also against the buying v selling. Must be a good sign that in a In very difficult circumstances AHL is holding its own.

and AHL certainly battling on in the $1.20's, Numeric acquisition has been approved and will be completed in September. 2.2% Dividend due day after tomorrow. Yet IMO mm's are still blatantly manipulating Man's share price out of all control and their responsibilities... . . . . . . . . . .Lets face it, there was no news in the Interim that was a surprise. Even Bank of America's Merril Lynch stated as much. Yet the price was pulled down 6% on the day BEFORE the interim. Then again pulled down again by another 7%, on the day of the best Interim Statement for years, even though there was 25% more buys than sells. But then pumped up by 8% to 121p for another milking session before quickly pulling it down again by 11%. Again in my opinion, no one in their right senses would sell at the lower prices knowing that a 2.2% dividend was to be paid, unless they were following another motive. So as far as I can make out Man's price is being pulled down and held down totally against all the information available. Is it not time for those responsible to come clean with their motives?, I believe GS should make a breast of it either way. Little outfits who make money advising clients exist by usually 'cottoning on' to what could be suspicious conspiracy movements in price, so all the regulators have to do is to enquire into such movements when they move. Otherwise, what in this world are the so called regulators doing to clean up LSEx.

I'm getting a bit impatient to read it myself and think you must be right about not receiving one. However, I'm a persistent type, (probably would not be involved with this share for so long if I wasn't.) As for the FCA, looks like I may have to find out. Currently, I believe that the London Stock Exchange is dominated by sneaky shorters, who just pull down prospering businesses and pump up weak ones for their own sordid ends. Enough said but could be more.

Fully agree with your post, especially as you say it is 'on the back of absolutely no reasoning whatsoever!!! '.... The results were as expected with no surprises, Aquisitions of Numeric & Pine grove are proceeding and AHL Est Nav is still up in the $1.20's. Yet the price was dropped the day prior to the results, clearly pointing to a conspiracy of some sort. One further point, before the FCA can get involved, London Stock Exchange needs to be approached as shown on their web site. (I am still waiting a reply to an earlier similar episode after nearly 4 months).

While it appears to be increasingly noticeable, IMO, that it is being affected by some kind of 'conspiracy'. While shorting is not against the rules, 'Conspiracy to short' is not just against LSE rules but also the laws of England & Wales, (London Stock Exchange/, rules/ Shorting). Not too sure, either, that insiders in Man are not connected. but will continue to collect information. .............................................................................................................................................. Already today Sells 2,300 Buys 11,945, and, yes the mm's sneakily reduce the price again. Understanding this is what I am increasingly concerned with.

(I say blip as it is in relation to the drop last Thursday). However, we are still in the $1.20's and not far off HWM in spite of the recent turmoil. So what's with the share price? Another example of Shorters and associates willfully damaging UK Ltd.

Who can understand when the mm's blatantly bring down the price of an equity, such as Man, by over 12% when that equity has just produced its best results for over 4 years or so. Beggars belief IMO, but is an further example I can use of the inequitable activities of those marketeers

Lets see it continuing

GBP to Dollar Turn around, almost back up to what is was last week before the drop, With GBP also up to Euro and Gold up, maybe AHL will have a good recovery this week then.

05-Aug-14 UBS Neutral 105.00 to 120.00 Reiteration

after having had a-0.7 drop on Friday, therefore had lost 2.5% on Thursday, (was there insider information involved in the share price drop on Friday). Not just a blip but another disaster brewing.

If the end of year dividend just rises by same amount as this interim then yield would be 6% on current price. Alas, would be a lot less on the value of the much less amount of shares I have left. So Good luck Bigel, and I'm still intent on continuing my strategy of getting out and staying out. Let the financial cannibals of LSM devour each other.

My strategy of getting out of investing in London Stock market is certainly not proving to be ludicrous, not that I would ever insult peoples point of view in that way. In these circumstances where performance and profitability count for nothing just because MR used the word cautious in a genuine way the marketers have ran riot with the share price, and I believe just may have been right about inside information being leaked yesterday. However, we now know that leakage could only piont what was expected before today's results. Share price ought to go to what you predict but with no regulation there is no certainty that the marketers will not just suddenly pull the price down or push it up to whatever suits them at any time. So in future I will be out until i see different. For the record I believe events prove that LSM owe me some compensation for their lack of duty of care towards my investments.

Buying more now seems logical, however, the events of yesterday and today are absolutely illogical. So can we ever trust the London Stock Market with our money again? I can't. This morning Panmure Gordon advised hold at 125p, wonder what they advise now.

Sales rose 91 percent to $12.4 billion in the first half as compared with the same period last year. Last year the SP had risen to 136p before the FS got to grips, this year 126p before the B's were allowed free reign. Copout has it 'nailed on' in his post.

For 'hiding' read 'cowering'