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Mon1 - have already done that, I emailed MB direct and he couldn't be bothered to email me back, but got his Admin email address to reply and stated they hadn't got any evidence of corruption happening. I emailed a reply and said as a long term shareholder with a lot of money invested I expected an answer if MB. What a surprise no reply to that. As in my other posts, I believe Buck has had his hands tied,but my personal belief is that he is an arrogant pratt who couldn't give a sh*t about his private investors, his communication skills are zero and for that reason I am not surprised he himself has not been able to sort this with the locals.
Doc, i think it is only good that the meeting on the 16th/17th has been arranged by MMHI. IMO MMHI know there is anti oil exploration/exploitation in Dornod province, mainly due to the actions of Petro China and that locals have never benefited from it. Add in the constant negativity from the Eco Activists, with the main woman also Dornod born, i believe they are taking the side of being against all exploration. Tbh can't blame them.
Therefore MMHI are there to talk about Responsible mining and to answer questions from locals. Instead of them hearing a biased point of view they can see how they can benefit, when there is responsible mining.
Also if locals are also aware or made aware that Petro China have been warned to clear up their act, i can only see good coming out of it. Add on top MMHI saying look at the fuel shortage you are witnessing we need to be exploiting our own oil and gas and this is why we are saying it is of National Importance. Well that's my take on it. Hopefully good comes out of it for us investors.
IMO I believe everything is being geared up to us getting the sign off very soon. IMO I think we will get it this year, don't think we will be exploiting that oil until early next year though which would be frustrating.
Even though Central government has passed the LP, I still believe they don't want to overrule the locals. Ideally they want them on side hence the meeting arranged and set up by MMHI in Dornod province for Nov 16th/17th titled Responsible Mining and locals invited to have their day. Also at the same time Petro China have just been given a deadline of Dec 1st to clean up their act environment wise. Threaten of closing their business if not sorted. Another bit of news which I believe could be good for PM is that Dornod province now is responsible for their own budget, surely revenue from Heron oil should fall in their hands ? So another reason for us to get the LP finally signed off.
As said all in my own opinion, hopefully it comes to fruition. We have waited ruddy long enough.
Amazing how BP dislikes WOS so much that he has forgot how to use the filter button for WOS, like he uses for everyone.else.
Also laughable that he won't comment on anything Okay/SS and myself now, because he has been called out that he can't stand losing control of those filtered comments. Bet the filter, un-filter button is worn out on his keyboard lol, sad little narcissist
BP Why don't you STFU totally. You bring absolutely nothing to this board. Sad little narcissist.
WOS keep posting info you find, hold back on SP predictions, doesn't help though.
Here's the link if everyone missed the original post - Nov 16th & 17th
Https://www.facebook.com/100006879427707/posts/pfbid02FvxRNoG4xGHbFaSnTVF5earPBrGmvdnv2C6S6mSioP7uuFZAD7RBufHaK1tiFSa2l/
Oh so its okay for BP to insult people, but when someone does the same he wants an apology. Sad little narcissist, and don't believe he doesn't see the messages. He filters and then unfilters as his curiosity and lack of control cannot stop him from reading the filtered messages. Sad, sad person.
Icblue, ignore the sad little narcissist. Only posts to get a reaction. Sad little person, typical little keyboard warrior. Got taken in by a ramper on here and lost all his investment. Typical narcissistic person he then blames everyone else except himself. Never his fault for his own decisions, so he continues to post negatively on here, even though he states he is not invested just to wind people up. His own words. What sane person would do that ??? Someone who can type away knowing he is anonymous and in control in his own little mind, what a really really sad person, who needs to get a life.
I think he'll be waiting a long time to get an apology off R&H. R&H was totally correct.
Doc great post, think it's worthwhile as many investors email, post on FB pages and Twitter and email PM. The more we get the info out the better for us all. At the end of the day we are all here to make money
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1. "Environment, water quality, waste water General requirements MNS4943:2015" is supplying waste water to nature,
2. There is no unified warehouse for storing chemicals, the storage and protection requirements of chemicals are not met,
3. Due to the non-introduction of oil-contaminated soil purification technology, a large amount of accumulation is polluting the environment.
. Due to the lack of on-site supervision during the remediation of the drilling fluid tailings pool, the quality of the remediation is not satisfactory. I would like to ask you what measures the Chinese government would take if a Mongolian company committed such a violation while operating in the territory of China. We officially inform you that if these violations are not eliminated, measures will be taken up to closing your business.
General Director of "Petro China Dachin Tamsag" LLC, General Director Zhu Dali: - If such a violation has been committed in our country, we will issue a time-bound task to eliminate the violation, and measures will be taken according to the cooperation agreement between the two parties. It will not immediately stop the operation without giving an opportunity to eliminate the violation.
B. Bat-Erdene, Minister of the Ministry of Education and Culture: I do not think that your country has such a lenient law. Your company needs to fulfill the tasks issued by our State Inspector General without questioning. I will give you one month's time to fulfill the Mongolian court's decision and the State Inspector General's official task. On December 1st, we will not accept an official letter saying "in progress or processing". I will visit the reality myself.
remove all affecting violations. Your company has been operating in Mongolia for 18 years. I'm giving you a month to go and see what he's done over the past 18 years. In addition, it will not be accepted to disrespect the citizens who are fighting for their land.
General Director of "Petro China Dachin Tamsag" LLC Zhu Dali said: "We will not run away from the problem, we will follow the laws of Mongolia. We will eliminate the violations."
Relooked at the translation of this using Google Translate which makes more sense and spells it out clear from Bat-Erdene
IF YOU ARE OPERATING IN THE TERRITORY OF MONGOLIA, YOU SHOULD OPERATE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RELEVANT LAWS
The Minister of Environmental Protection B. Bat-Erdene held a bilateral meeting with the managers of "Petrochaina Dachin Tamsag" LLC on the issue of eliminating violations and negative impacts on the environment.
At the meeting, General Director Zhu Dali, Executive Director Kang Dechuan, the company's Environmental Specialist U. Nachin, Head of the Mongolian Chinese Culture and Art Association, Rentsen, Head of the Department of Environmental Assessment and Audit of the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology, attended the meeting. Inspectors and experts of Enkhmunkh, Branch Inspection Department participated.
At the beginning of the meeting, the Minister of Environmental Protection B. Bat-Erdene said - I do not conduct a full analysis of air, soil, water, and wastewater as indicated in the detailed environmental impact assessment and environmental monitoring analysis, which are violations found during the inspection conducted during my tenure as Minister. I would like to ask about 4 issues that do not take measures to reduce the negative impact, do not fully implement the duties of environmental protection, and do not eliminate the detected violations within the specified time.
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Eliminate all violations that negatively affect the environment. Your company has been operating in Mongolia for 18 years. I'm giving you a month but I'm going to go see the work he's done for the past 18 years. Also, disrespect to citizens fighting for their land is unacceptable.
✅ "Petro China dachin tamsag" LLC General Director Ju Dali:- "We will not run away from problems, we will work by following Mongolian law and regulations. The violation will be eliminated" said.
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IF YOU ARE CARRYING OUT IN MONGOLIA'S LAND, YOU SHOULD WORK ACCORDING TO THE RELATED LEGAL ORGANIZATION
✅Minister of Foreign Affairs B. Bat-Erdene held a bilateral meeting with the managers of "Petrochaina dachin tamsag" LLC on the issue of eliminating negative impact and violations.
Zhu Dali, CEO of "Petro china dachin" LLC, CEO Kan Dechuan, Environmental Specialist of the company Wu. Head Rentsens of Nachin Mongolian Chinese Culture and Arts Support Association were given by Head of Environmental Assessment Audit Department of the Ministry of Agriculture G. Enkhmunkh, Inspectors and specialists of the Branch Control Office participated.
✅At the beginning of the meeting Minister of the Ministry of Agriculture B. Bat-Erdene said - I only do not fully analyze air, soil, water and wastewater as reflected in the environmental inspections, as a detailed assessment of the environmental inspection, environmental inspection, no measures to reduce the negative effects, fully implement my duty to protect the environment, pointing out the lack of violations I want to ask 4 problems that don't solve in time.
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1. “Park environment, water quality, waste water General requirement MNS4943:2015” supplying waste water that does not meet the standard requirements,
2. There is no unified warehouse for chemical storage, chemical storage and protection are not required,
3. Due to not introduction of oil-contaminated soil treatment technology, large amount accumulation is creating and polluting the environment,
4. Due to the lack of on-site supervision during the Drill liquid waste fund rehabilitation, the quality of the rehabilitation is not satisfactory. I want to ask you what action would the Chinese government take if a Mongolian company committed such violations while operating in the territory of China. It is official that if these violations are not resolved, action will be taken until the end of your business.
✅ General Director General of "Petro China Dachin" LLC Zhu Dali:-If such a violation has been committed in our country, we will be given a timely task to eliminate the violation, and measures will be taken according to the bilateral cooperation agreement. Wouldn't the operation be stopped immediately without giving an opportunity to eliminate the violation.
✅Minister of Foreign Affairs B. Bat-Erdene:- I don't think your country has such a soft law. Your company needs to fulfill the duties of our State Inspector General without dispute. I will give you one month to fulfill the decision of the Mongolian court and the duties of the State Inspector General. On December 1, the official letter "in the making, in the process" will not be accepted. I'm going to see reality on my own.
It is also interesting that Minister of Foreign affairs Bat-Erdene has had a meeting with Petro China ref their environmental issues they have caused. Check out the link. Hope it isn't just words and they follow it through if the Chinese don't play ball
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0S9XkWTiFsy41Z5CncgiAfzLmafE8mKHS8UEwcNXQs9mzxWoBtkvhvZiuavVW9cy6l&id=100067733361317
Thanks Thorno, my thoughts also, the more people that are made aware and the more it is "out there in the open" the better. I also tend to think that corruption in Mongolia is being tackled and is a long, slow process. A much as Buck and PM p*ss me off with their lack of communication and treatment of private investors i do believe their hands have been tied. I still think this will come good, just feel the same as most genuine investors on here, ruddy frustrated, Hopefully we get the RNS we are all waiting for very soon so we can "at last" move forward.