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But even though I filtered Alex out you guys keep responding to him and I can't/don't want to filter everyone, I mean he used a 6 week college project to justify a point! and he wrote the more you attack him the more he'll respond! as bizarre as it is he's an attention seeker and he gets off on all of this, obviously i cant tell anyone what to do but can you please stop responding to him unless he says something genuinely interesting worthy of consideration at the very least, please

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All I can say is that for a moment earlier I thought you may work for or had worked for SEE, can't give a rational reason as to why just a gut feeling but when you posted you were back in and were toot tooting all day it said it all, no need for gut instinct to interpret that difficult to take you seriously in light of that tbh

Alex has suddenly gone all mushy over SEE now he's managed to get back in at a favourable price, embarrassing to read the childish change in temperament given the clear motive

Alex8 are you kk?

When did you say toot toot Alex?

Alex8 are you kk?, or SEE's 'deepthroat' forewarning the coming collapse, give us more solid info/analysis on which to take a negative view

Alex8 you're right it doesn't reflect well on kk or the company, that's why the share price has dropped, people now know its all fake and SEE is not worth didly, long live DENSO and fotonation

SEE has just posted a tweet about this; https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/should-autonomous-driving-systems-be-compatible/ We are so far off vehicle to vehicle communication let alone mapping standards and behavioural standards between vehicles mainly due to competition that safety determined by humans in the loop will be there for a long time yet with slow iterative change and lots of consolidation and mergers and technical white papers before we get to the reality of full automation, don't forget that modern Boeing/airbus planes can already take off/land and fly themselves yet we still have pilots no one is suggesting we get rid of them

I don't think kk necessarily answers his own email unless he wants to, this is probably one of those playfully cheeky in parts though its edited so can't say, its a company position what else is he/they going to say, google are sniffing around offering 30billion apple 35 holding out for 50 billion from denso

I think that's turnover, which makes sense viz figure, whereas data would be pure profit in the main

Have I understood exhibit 2 of the report correctly, automotive sale will rise from 3.5 trillion per year to over 7 trillion with data being 450 to 750 billion of that! Are 3.5 trillion worth of vehicles being sold per year now! That can't be right https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/McKinsey/Industries/Automotive%2520and%2520Assembly/Our%2520Insights/Monetizing%2520car%2520data/Monetizing-car-data.ashx&ved=2ahUKEwjk7PyL_pDcAhUrLsAKHXRVCaEQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw2Xl86gc7JNhNX9BTyDAQHT

Any particular reason for the above today that I've missed?

There is a pattern to this, post something and last one dissapears, post again and it comes back

My last but one post just vanished!

Thinking about this if SEE were to be considered a data company then the example is WhatsApp in which case my previous dismissal of giant data companies buying see was premature, following that line of logic google, amazon and Facebook would have interest in this for different reasons, amazon for behavioural queuing and buying habits as well as delivery service and their massive interest in AI of logistics and cloud, Google same but as part of an ai service for its in car operating system tagged to navigation and advertising, Facebook data on behaviour and ad plugging I guess though weaker This is just a flight of ideas I've not seen any evidence for it

Thanks James, its clear that driver safety and collision avoidance is now be planned for as a complete package and mitigating driver fatigue is a key aspect of that, if Daimler as a group, rather than just Mercedes, rolls out DMS to its trucks as standard that would be massive, difficult to say whether they would use their own system or buy something like SEE, maybe the new Guardian live API is a hedge against that for end users to still be able to buy into SEE even if hardware isn't ours, I imagine Daimler would try and create their own control centre like Mercedes roadside assist

Sewing machine, I agree that mandation is not necessary insurance premiums alone will drive this, Jamesrobbo, do you have a link to those technical papers?

The point about behavioural queuing for next action is really interesting and has applications to security or advertising, as fanciful as previous talk of google or apple takeover has been this would be very interesting to them, Facebook too, because then you can start to map mannerisms to decisions , that is potentially Cambridge analytica on steroids, frightningly dystopian even if data protection laws forbid this, there is nothing to stop back end data collection to create whole new categories of demographic by mannerisms frightening stuff

Alex insurance companies will drive the uptake of see tech, they are about as evidence based a you can get, the unions love it because it protects their workers on a per person basis individual risk stratification based on real individual data previously unheard of meaning the models will now be bottom up and not top down assumptions, you can now put a price on that and insurance companies will