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This tech looks like the kind of thing that would give nVIDIA a really bad day perhaps even Intel and mobile eye, direct spatial awareness of movement upto 200m on a pixel by pixel basis with no 3D rendering, in real time fast with no lag I can see on video and accurate, only $300 for external sensors and look at the size of it!

https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1061340717274910720/video/1

Watching those clips on the Nauto website of fleet drivers is quite interesting though I'm not sure if they are actors or real vids, but my impression of fleet drivers being highly skilled and professional so not representative of wider population might be wrong

As a former share holder in this b@//x company previously known as proxama I'm sad to see not much has changed

Here is an example of the kind of thing former bod could have done with data analytics before they destroyed the company and moved on to better things had they actually had any technological awareness or competence

http://on.forbes.com/6014EBRno

As a former share holder in this b@//x company previously known as proxama I'm sad to see not much has changed

Here is an example of the kind of thing former bod could have done with data analytics before they destroyed the company and moved on to better things had they actually had any technological awareness or competence

http://on.forbes.com/6014EBRno

Chris, sgreen, I seemed to have gone of on a tangent, I have found a screen grab of guardian live on geotab, which I'd never seen before, so SEE are all over it but I have no idea why Steve Fletcher said that, it made us sound like a bunch of muppets stuck in the stone age, still I think the issue viz standalone platform stands but it's a critical time with lots of players in the field, that said comments viz Ford stand and well just have to wait and see what 2019 brings all imo of course

Sgreen, I think that's fair comment and at a slight tangent but listening to steve fletcher say they open a phone book and call people when there is an event triggered from their control centre made my jaw drop in disbelief, in every way seeing machines was at the party before anyone got this and yet they are kind of looking under their feet and at serious risk of being ousted by other players that get this, I would have thought they had created a web based telematics dashboard that would have all data on an individual linked to sleep patterns and other biometrics like age weight etc to create tables for a risk stratification to real world events that could be customised for individuals or fleet customers or whoever that log into us not the other way round, if it sounds far fetched look at the dashboard for Nauto under products about half way down the page Vera score etc, the good news is that's easy and quick to do this, they are at the mercy of T1s and OEM's shifting alliances at the moment and are at risk of being ousted completely or sold very cheaply, the good news is with Ford in particular we will have real world data from a more representative population that will only enhance our dataset but clearly work needs to be done turning SEE management into thinking like a core car os software platform rather than just one part of a car supply chain, there is little time to do this and get it right, any notions of explosive share rises ahead of 2020 is premature at this stage

Thanks the scoop, theres an app call app annie that gives download metrics on that sort of thing and enough info is free to get an idea, you're right zero activity to date, which suggests perhaps the stock selling out was to a clinic and not individuals which makes sense since it was before the fertility show

Nice find AJ interesting to hear SEE introduced as a software company, I was a little surprised that escalation just involved phoning people for each instance, I would have expected they would have their own telematics suite with a dashboard of data for each driver (against fleet in general), kind of like fitbits or garmin sports watches apps and Relive roled into one which would allow reference against a distribution of outcomes against normal levels of attentiveness and fatigue events for each driver over time, if you had that and maybe a personal app showing data to each driver against peers it would be motivating and more precise for fleet operator, my two bits based on flight of fancy for what I imagined SEE to be doing and disappointing to hear tbh given they were introduced as a software company, maybe they need more software engineers to work on that

If it does break out of the wedge the target could be the high point of about 10.5p, but given lack of info which we are all aware of it's likely to just exit the wedge and float along look at how low the daily volumes are compared to previously everyone holding is waiting and none new is coming in so far, unless AGM comes out with some spectacular new piece of info likely to just continue flatline tbh

Aero is more difficult to gauge, reputational risk is high in an extremely regulated environment that luckily operates to one global standard, on top of that SEE's monitoring tech may have revealed issues previously no one was aware of which no company is going to allow to come out without a solution to

Sgreen, you are right but the problem with that is what happens if you miss your own target or it turns out the opportunities change and SEE are chatting to different people in 6 months, no value can be put on talking and all the market will do with that is trash the share, I guess we are where we are with share price for that reason, I dont think the share can get much worse, I think it's at in anticipatory poise frustrating none the less though

Fleet behavioural data will be a basis for autonomous systems, but fleet drivers are all likely men of a certain age, trained to do their job, driving cars for companies whose jobs depend on them driving properly and safely and who know they are being monitored with control centres manned by people feeding back directly, a different prospect altogether to teenagers on a Friday night or a mum with car full of kids on way to supermarket where tail risks are more likely, on the plus side for SEE just having cameras in the automotive cars doing nothing but recording all this affords data gathering to realise what Toyota and veoneer white papers are aiming for; so it would appear the clock is being reset on automotive DMS while fleet is mature

With a mix of semi automated and non automated cars on the road ahead of full networked automation, semi automated stand alone cars have their work cut out working this all out without cloud infrastructure and awareness to guide it all while supposedly increasing safety

The handing on and off is apparently a much bigger challenge than previously suggested even for L3 as the Navy Seal who died in a Tesla, the cyclist who died by an Uber in the US and the ******** who got sent down for sitting in the passenger seat of his Tesla driving on the M1 in UK a few months back are all testament to

The Google scholar paper looking at behavioural types is the most interesting because it means that dms cant just hand on and off but has to take into consideration the type of driver and their likely behaviour in order to adjust the safety hand on/off settings appropriately for the specific driver type under the specific onditions they are driving! that needs to be written directly into the AI algos that form the core of the OS that runs the car and done in real time! otherwise it may create anxiety where there is none or create a sense of safety where there should be none which would increase not decrease risk- with all that processing power will there be any power left in those future electric cars to actually drive?assuming our chip and mobile eyes new chip is only enough for fusion of inside and outside sensing respectively and not fusing those streams together and processing a response like nvidia wants to do with 100-300W of power! even with petrol cars what would be the miles per gallon with those kind of processing requirements

The second to last academic paper has a nice table re real time and non realtime monitoring of driver behaviour, you can download it using sci hub.<br />The Google scholar papers conclusion sums up nicely the issues of driver behaviour and styles yet to be worked out let alone integrated into dms, quite apart from the other links that shed some light on the scale of all this.<br /><br />https://www.datamation.com/amp/cloud-computing/cloud-computing-companies.html<br /><br />https://www.predictiveanalyticstoday.com/top-transportation-management-software/<br /><br />https://www.strategyanalytics.com/access-services/automotive/autonomous-vehicles/reports/report-detail/operating-systems-for-autonomous-vehicles<br /><br />https://www.technologyreview.com/s/609885/baidu-could-beat-google-in-self-driving-cars-with-a-totally-google-move/<br /><br />https://venturebeat.com/2018/01/03/blackberrys-qnx-os-to-be-the-bedrock-of-baidus-apollo-autonomous-driving-platform/<br /><br />https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7943120<br /><br />https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=10.1109/ITSC.2017.8317803

By technically I mean standardisation of systems by which all vehicles of whatever make can talk to each other, this will require government coordination globally beyond current recommendations and white papers, it's an unusual model like smartphone ecosystems before iPhone and android took over but with public safety central which complicates things and that will include traffic control centres and GPS systems, big playing field in flux, of which we are one of a few players at the centre of a much larger picture that will not mature for at least a generation seriously I dont think that much about day to day flux which is not to say I'm happy about sp

I dont think this is a gradually incremental type of market it's really fast moving and so new and key to semi autonomous assisted driving that everyone is holding their cards close to their chests, I think this will step up in jumps or explode likely as part of large M&A type consolidation process with google/iOS type players left controlling the whole thing, once it becomes clear what is needed technically then an operating system integrating what's happening outside and in can be made (im sure that's in play already) including cloud based 5g infrastructure that references all this activity outside and inside the car to coordinate all this, it's such an enormous undertaking far bigger in scale than any air traffic control system on the planet by way of example how do you put a value on that and by extension SEE until its clear, we are right in the centre of that, while it might just flop with a whimper I doubt that personally, just needs a little time an patience

I dont have an iPhone but I saw no indication on app store of number of downloads maybe those with iPhone can clarify that? when it comes to android that metric MAY be a useful proxy for sales, though it doesn't need myLotus to function

At the end of the day everyone has to do their own research and come to their own conclusions, given dr corda is fertility expert on This Morning with other TV appearances and the niche nature of this market I think it's notable she mentioned it, even if she just saw it at the show and thought it was a good idea and just mentioned it for that reason, she did mention it specifically none the less, more broadly this is part of a whole fertility campaign in metro emphasising natural cycle fertility and women's health which CREATE appears to be part of, so as I said below it's not going to send the share price to the moon anytime soon but given it's just been released and that myLotus sold out just before the show it indicates to me that people in the industry know about it and are keen that's important, how important will become clear over time, do I have an agenda yes of course i do, to get my money back that I originally invested at best or at least significantly reduce my losses on what has otherwise been a donkey of a share all imo and of course always dyor