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Spite is very very immature.
Look in mirror and step back.
Maybe write about Ncyt and not people never met.
Being *****y on social media is very cowardly. And easy.
Some of us have an investment here-for better or worse. Hard time. It is so depressing to read really vacuous posts.
Invitation to depart is offered.
I think I know what sort of response is likely.

P100
I have lost my total livelihood here( from £9 all the way down-massive investment) and in 4D. You don’t get much more of a sucker.
I could not have done worse.
I just say nil desperandum.
Complaining is valid and acceptable. Just hang in or flog. Me? I trust the market so little that I’ll just pack it in the bottom drawer, having perhaps very very stupidly averaged down and made myself a target.
Oh well….we all end up the same way and you can’t take your £1.50 with you :-)

Easy to tear a company to shreds.
I have lost as much as anyone here to be sure, but I will come out and say credit for Allmond leaving or being pushed-we will never know. It’s a harsh time in the markets and the world, but no harsher than many other times. ( I actually remember the Cuban Missile Crisis/oil embargo/Vietnam ( the worst)/77-85 appalling recession/Interest rates at 15% in 1993/ERM exit/Tech crisis/Asian crisis/9-11/Iraq/Lehmans rtc etc etc. Covid plus Putin is a double whammy admittedly though. But winter is ahead…NHS faltering,govt. lost credibility, Republicans about to disrupt US support for Ukraine…yes bad times. Ncyt is a dreadfully poy-run company, but the science is good and winter is ahead with covid-inducced non immunity threatening. Best to oust the ailing salesman or encourage him to resign. Times have always been tough on this Earth, but winter demands protection from these new ( and old) bugs. Ncyt is well-positioned to confront new nasties. All it needs is another variant. My mother is 93 and has covid for 4th time atm. I only had it once March 2020. Now is the winter of our discontent in many ways, so I hope Ncyt can benefit from the ill wind that winters bring.
I was always criticised for being critical of Ncyt from Feb 2021, and said the dispute would take years. It will. But I am just saying that 68p ain’t too much of a gamble to put one’s chip on in mid November ppre-winter with a new housekeeper on the horizon!! Even remaining leeches on good wages can only do so for so long.
I was never one for randomly supporting the price…I just got caught out. There is no floor, but right now this seems a bargain to me. 98p 6 weeks ago. £1.20 8 weeks ago.Not alot has changed. And a fresh start.
I’m a real cynic, so for me to think this could be an opportunity means either I am eating the wrong mushrooms or it could be.
I can always be wrong, aswe all can.
Hope we lth’s see a bit of blue soon!!
ATB

Kaeren
Not trying to be cantankerous here . I have known many CEO’s/Directors/ Heads of business or schools even, just walk out. No service. May not be contractual but they do it. My headyeacher left on last day of term. Handed notice in on that day. I have known many many in business too. They don’t serve notice until new person appointed even if they contractually are supposed to.
By Heavens I have known so many. They either hand in notice and just go, or some get “ sick leave”. There is no real -life evidence that he didn’t resogn or just walk out. In the real world it doesn’t work by the rules. Seen it SO many times. Wish I wasn’t so old and cynical. So he may well have resigned with or without notice. This is the reality of what happens. You may well be right. You may not be . That is the important thing to recognize.
But either way, a posotive move as it was clearly not going right.

We simply cannot know whether he chose to exit or was pushed. Imposiible to know. But either way, it allows the company to move on.A positive RNS.

Whatever the situation regarding an incoming CEO , his departure is a good thing as there were obviously significant issues. Just as in a very poor marriage, the sooner the liberation the better so each person has opportunity to move on.
Sonif there were issues here, whatever they were, sooner the liberation the better.

Bizarre. Don’t get hopes up though. We will find out.Probably administrative.

Market wants p/i’s out. Company too I believe. What better way to do it. Shareholders are a nuisance ( private ones). Depress and wear them down. The oldest trick since stock markets began. They have software which shoews how much is held by p/i’s. They can wait. Ncyt are not bothered about p/i’s in the slightest either. They just go to work every day. But it is brick by brick.
I have a history of selling at the wrong time out of frustration myself. I would be rich had I not. Truthfully. I have learned the hard way and made the mistakes.
Sell at a loss or forget it and leave it. I wish I’d sold 18 months ago , yes. It was 8 times what it is now. Being at 70p , I just think best to leave it.
Or sell and take a holiday.
Me? Bottom drawer. Right at the back with the mothballs.

Farsdak
Sorry
Colin.lawrence@talk21.com
Enclose screenshot of shareholding.
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Open to all holders.

Hi both of you. Not been here a while.
Interpath reaffirmed in recent RNS that they were still searching for a ‘ going concern’ . They did not have to do that as the RNS was not about Admin. Recent dates for scientific posters in RNS 2 weeks ago on 0518 also show that there are things moving . I personally think it is in order to increase value of 0518 for sale, as Merck are foolish to abandon its Keytruda efficacy. I am a cynic through and through as have been taken for a ride too many times for being naive or trusting, but I fully acknowledge increasing value of assets recently. Problem I have is that the vultures will still pick off the carrion at rock bottom regardless as Admin is simply interested in paying secured creditors and takong est. £4m themselves , angelic promises or not.
The last 3-4 months have been harder than lockdown for me , and I mix hope with profound cynicism as I know how corrupt and the market is and how greedy the Admin process is.
It’sall speculation until the Fat Lady sings. And she has lost a lot of weight in 3 1/2 months!
I hope you two are ok and faring better than I. Loss of £97k ( pretty much all I have) has knocked me and family for 6. But some of the 166 SAG members have equally horrific stories. 4D really has caused serious human carnage. Unforgiveable.
(Well…it does not compare to the horror inflicted by Vlad the Impaler in Ukraine, and the trauma of that will endure and endure. I was o Ukraine/Poland border at a martial arts champs in 2019. Russia can never defeat spirit ( as in France ‘39-45). I meet up with Ukraine team in 3 weeks in Wales at World Champs..I bet they will get an almighty cheer.) Sorry, distracted.
Thanks Michael for info.Email anytime.
Wishing you both the best.

He gets paid a lot. He is picking up pieces from a possible narcissist who abandonned ship with the treasure.
He is contending with justifiably angry shareholders like me/us. He has to balance the books, live in the shadow of the inept DHSC ( I know them well via political comms through MP), direct a credible business growth plan post covid , and yes I know he gets well-paid for it. I am losing /have lost my livelihood in Ncyt ( and 4D) but credit where it is due. We are in a pickle but can leg it or hold on in intelligent hope. The govt. does not have to bully AND win. Counter allegations and a counter case would not have been put there without justification. Boris’s govt . never had any scruples in most areas. I hope for an intuitive and ethical judge who sees it as it is. I am not a happy investor but I said 18 months ago that this would take years…I just didn’t think the s/p would go so low. ( To go private may mean complicit in that).
Rather than ramble any more, I was just trying to say that the presentation was well
organized and well presented-no more.
DA was at ease and businesslike.I don’t get how any other interpretation. I have seen some dire dire presentations. The market will eat the share anyway. It’s what they do to p/i’s. There is an acquisition in hand and new markets being researched. GM had no business direction-he was just lucky when covid hit.i watched the s/p go down this week and it hurts, but I have more confidence in the business after the presentation than before. I am used to my moaning and complaining and am sure I will do a lot more…but the presentation and embryonic business plan was a start.Compared to what Ncyt have done before ( laughable), it was a sterling
S/p short term? No idea.

I personally thought DA did an ok job in the circumstances. There are a lot of circumstances here!
I listened to the presentation twice and watched it once . He certainly did not sound nervous one little bit. I was very intent !!
He was very calm and businesslike. Nor did he look nervous one little bit!. How on Earth was that projected onto him? I have a Post grad in Psychology and my thesis was on verbal + non-verbal communication.. ( also trained and practicing personal Psychotherapist).
The most nervous person can hide it totally and 100% vice versa He did not display any nervousness at all!! In any way. And even if he had , it would mean nothing. He would have a right to be nervous whatever even if he had been. It’s human!!! But no…he was businesslike and calm anyway. Presenters should be judged for content not manner!!
Means nothing.
I am not impressed by the results or short term prospects . Of course. Norcis the market. But maybe lay off the guy for being human. Didn’t look nor sound nervous but it’s perfectly ok if he was anyway, and understandable. As a teacher for 40 years I know what it’s like to be nervous in front of groups…..I still regularly am. They never know (!) and it doesn’t show(!) . And doesn’t matter anyway if you are. It’s being human .
I’m just saying lay off the guy.
H1was always gonna be hard to present. Loss, DHSC , overrated covid sales etc…….but he did a good job . And calmly , not overtly nervous in the slightest . Both are acceptable and irrelevant to content.
I have seen and heard 35 years worth of presentations. He was calm ( no signs of nerves fwiw) , seemed wholly unruffled and was very businesslike, and more clued-in than anyone else Ncyt have employed !! I considered it one of the better presentations I have heard and seen.
He even referred to shareholders and the DHSC. Ok job.
End of rant.

Learn who to trust in the real world…easy BIG majority. Can’t have any type of friedships or relationships without trust!!!!
On chatsites -I agree-prudent not to until you get to know them . Anonymity is the issue. But plenty are tristworthy here. One just posted before you. He is.
You het to know pretty quick who to trust even on an anonymous chatsite. But if you don’t know’em , don’t trust ‘em.

Good ( trustworthy) but scathing post from Harchris. I don’t really disagree. DA did his stuff, but just going through the motions. Watch shareprice suffer further. I give up .
But won’t sell.

Good post from Sir Digby!!
Ruined by irrational and totally wrong ****** comments. Why do people have to spout outrageous ridiculous and blatantly untrue statements. We are all individuals…decent people and dishonest people in every country. I have met people who are total gems in Ireland as here in England.I work with Irish people amongst others and they are as honest as it gets.. We are ALL individuals. Racism shows deep ignorance of our unique individuality! Honest Irish honest English honest Fijians!! ….ing stupid and ignorant!!!!
I think DA did ok . He had a hard job. I think he did not placate shareholders enough. I think he sold the business well enough, but I think the market is brutal and will take advantage.
I don’t see a recovery on top of this.
Leave it another year.

It’s all there. Nothing new.
No presentation needed.
Just a formality.

Fair post.

I would agree.
This presentation is placatory.
But will fall flat as we know the truth.
I appreciate that moaning gets us nowhere, but it helps us be forewarned and forearmed for a controlled evasive gameplay.
I expect selected questions and blatant evasion. Bland explanations . And little if any reference to the share price or DHSC ( a parting comment about confidentiality perhaps) .
Cannot believe how dark and cynical this company ( and 4D or course) have made me.

Soder , won’t happen , but 100% !

I believe private ownership has to have shareholder approval? Is that right?

Share biyback shows confidence. Dividend shows shareholder respect. Both are feasible in spite of DHSC dispute.
Director buys are indeed probably the No.1 immediate display of confidence to the market.
I remember the crematorium-like AGM last year ( post failure on votes).
OMG here is hoping they have a reason for this presentation and have some enthusiasm for…well….something!!!
Otherwise I can kiss all future holidays axpermanent goodbye.
Night all. Here’s to hoping the market leeches have nothing to feed off tomorrow.