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As expected
78-81p
Likey to continue
IMO
Very very tightly controlled. To a tee.

I meant to say rant over.
Sorry for too much info in the post.
ATB to you and all decent and patient investors.

I like your feistiness my man.
I just see them as legal leeches.
If kids were allowed up chimneys because it was legal….blame it all on pathetically amoral governments. Boris is interested in his own status and having a fun time. He doesn’t care about rights and wrongs or the general public. One of my degrees is in Politics. I have been involved a long time and it’s seedy and selfish with some good people lost in the meléé. My Tory MP is excellent. The govt. is seedy and weedy.
Shorting is illegal in Germany. It nearly sent the system down when VW shorters got burned bigger than any reddit managed. A success. Then they banned it. Shorting destroys companies. Govt. makes money from them so cares not. The mm’s kowtow to the City traders who work short term. They algo-control our daily shares. The mm’s are damned clever with their p/i psychology and have a library of games to catch us out. I have learned many. It saves my bacon. The stuff i post is not tosh. It is true. It is a world hidden behind secretive doors . So so damn lucrative. They earn more in one day than a nurse in 5 years.
I resent the government deeply for their apathy . FSA is useless. Pog was shorted and the rights issue shares were blocked so you couldn’t sell them. I lost over £100k.
The rest went in Trinity and RBS Lloyds Tulliw etc. Even Northern Rock. I have been taken for rides. Naive. But I challenge anyone to have learned more about the market.
I would love to see shorters crash and burn. But it won’t happen. They are in charge. It is a chums’ market. In it together. No emails. Just word of mouth to the market muppet buddies. And computers are set and software monitored.
We are easy meat.
All we can do is know their games and ride the wave when they raise their Evangelical hands to the share rises. Shares plummet just like that. So fast. They are brought up again much more steadily and stealthily so that the world-weary investor cashes in too early. One of many tricks. All sussed. They ruin lives but the market is truly red in tooth and claw. Pog was so damn devious . Hambro deserved to be castrated for what he did to so many people. I know a guy in Germany who lost his life savings because he believed the rns’s about “shareholder value”
Trinity is now a great company but its ceo Bruce Dingwall died suddenly August 3rd. Prob. covid. Not sure. So my holding crashed. And NCYT too. So I am very much on a loser right now.
But I know health is truly wealth. Stress destroyed my health 2014-2021. Getting it back is most important. But I am blessed with 2 great grown up kids and a dog I would die for and who will break my heart when he goes. ( 10 yrs old). . Sorry !! 2 much info.
This is a cruel market.
We deserve to benefit from 4D ( and my 50% loss on Ncyt too). But it will not be eaay. The marketeers know we are invested and wantvour shares cheaply. They won’t raise the price in a hurry.
Grit teeth and stand feistily firm.
I hate ‘em but it’s legal
Rant o

Sharcus
Appreciate your honesty.
I have had much experience of the dark side of trading. Lost it all 2016.
Made about half back. Blood sweat and tears. And I resonate with your “ taking its toll”. Seriously affected my health….I challenge anyone to lose £480k life accumulation and it not wreck them. A 25:1 rights issue in POG and my oil share going from £1.50 to 1.5p in one year. I doubt your trauma is as bad but I respect it. I have certainly not recovered as it has been 6 years of nightmare stress. I therefore empathise. Shorters are leeches but it’s not their fault. It is legal. WQ do what they do. Illegal in other countries but we have a laissez-faire amoral govt. ( which I resigned from as a result of their utter incompetence).
4D shares are a pawn.
They are divorced from the company.
At £1 I am marginally lower but a very large sum here indeed. So being human it hurts.
I resent the manipulation but it’s legal.
It helps me to know others’ positions as it helps me put mine in wholistic perspective with other investors. So thank you.
I find it hard to believe we are at 79p but I did post that it was likely. I hoped to be wrong.
I sadly think we will be 79-81p for a while again. Hope to be wrong again of course.
Thank you for sharing. It is a positive contribution to others.
Hope good w/end

Lol . Thanks for sentiments Ollie! :-)
I’ve been investing long time.
Sure I don’t like big losses. Same on NCYT.
But have known them so well and so often.
Health is more important than momey but money does have its place or we wouldn’t be here.
Wish you the best.

If anyone wishes to share their averages it would be nice for me to feel a little cohesion. Privacy is privacy of course. At 79p it helps bolster a little psychologically. As has been said..directors are losin a fair amount . But they earn not far off that as an annual salary.
At £1 average I feel that it will take test results or consistent PR to see breakeven right now. Although it was there only in May. Waiting is what it is all about unless you are a day trader.

Good post Boonco
You are an example but not so many have your attributes. Some-like myself in fact-have thin skin and worry. Whether I can control or not. For many people it is not something they can prevent. You are fortunate and obviously unusual-a long term investor. Not so many about.
I have been in 4D a long time. I am on a big loss at £1 with very large holding. I worry. But that’s just how I am. I have lost everything once so have good reason .
Your post is however nicely solid.

However…I have noticed some very chunky buys. So there is some wind under 4D’s tail still !

Lots of valid arguments here. Not too uncivil :-)
I personally expect more mullarkey next week with the share price. Too much uncertainty around. Food for the Munchkins.
I do not (!) expect a sharp rise at all. Quote me and attack me if I prove wrong . But I will stick formly to that. ( although do not wish to). More games next week I say.
Happy to be shot down.
GLA again

Well “ ouch” to today’s finishing half hour!!
I did warn of it coming-not a surprise- but it hurts anyway.
I expect a possible big sell after hours.
Very controlled pricing and timing as usual.
Well back to the big drawer for red numbers.
Canny customers these mm’s…wait until the very last few minutes. I did expect it as it is what they often do.
Next week will be interesting.
Roll with it all.
Company? Nothing changed. Price? Down 18% in just over a week.
It’s a lark !!
ATB

Presentation and poor data are not bedmates.

Ps
People are welcome not to agree with me and see it differently.
IS fine

Sitting on big loss.
Painful
But muppets are muppets.
They play their games .
Nothing has changed
Will take the stress and hold on indefinitely.
Pretty sure they will slump to try to get us to dump. Expect further fall.
Hope wrong.
Will sit and hold with middle finger up
Do your stuff guys
We all go the same way
I’ll do it with a life well lived.
Hang in all no matter what they do.
This is a game...nothing materially has changed. I watch the trades. It’s watching them play high-stake Pokemon.
Market divorced from the real commodity.
Sleep well if you can guys. Hang in there

Can’t know.
But why offload at this price?
He lost on Forte but why lose here? This is not Forte. Biomes for skin conditions having no statistical significance is not the same as for intestinal. Massive difference. And 4D have several irons in fire.
Offloading at 80p would need insider info which is possible and normal as FSA do nothing. But market also allows buddies to load up at discount . More possible to me. 4D secured funding with Ox. bio in the States. Only a month ago. The presentations may just be a PR stunt but then equally not.
I am unhappy on a very large loss at £1’ish.
But making investors nervous and fearful is their aim on AIM.
I am nervous but only because I hate big red loss numbers. 4D was £1:10p 3 months ago.
I think it is Friday and that is favourite treeshake day. Down more? But hoping not.
But panicking does no good . I think leavecthe share awhile for them to worry us.
Good news? Bad news? No news? Who knows?? Especially not the doom-mongers.

My opinion-hopefully wrong-is that they will bring it down further . Maybe 78 or lower. Hope I am wrong.
But great buy opportunity if so.
Look at all the insti AT buys today.

My opinion-which I hope is wrong-is that they will bring it down further tomorrow.
Hopefully wrong but it is what they often do.
78 or below.
If so ..great buying opportunity.
Just look at all those trades today.
Massive number of AT buys

Paste about a medical appointment
Not for me
Sorry about confused post at end

Oops that was a paste that happened on my iphone
Weird
Sorry

There are rules regarding time boundaries close to results or price-sensitive information.
I’m not too good with the exactitude of these. I don’t pay much attention as I never expect directors to buy. Too cynical and am happy when they do.
They put a lot into Placing.
For several reasons they may not want to .
Very often the case.
Like RNS’s never expect a director to buy.
The mm’s are doing the bidding of WQ and/or institutions or favoured buyers by keeping it low via algo. Or just AT’s.
It is IMO nothing to do with real company affairs. 4D is fully funded . They just don’t want the price to rise. I suspect there are accumulators by looking at the trades and prices. We just have to wait.
Samo on NCYT
Avactawas a hoot to watch. They drove it from £1.22 to 99p in a day and back u in a day( 2 weeks ago) . Nothing changed in company.
Lambo payments Hi, This message is for Calum Lawrence and appointment was 24th July 2019 with Julian.
Your mobile number must have been given to us by him. We have tried contact by post and email
The market is a controlled casino. Making the City bods rich. Honestly !

drop ( not frop).
Sorry