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Of course. Yes I agree.

Looks like this may have been a dip to allow favoured clients to buy rock-bottom.

Sometimes this happens out of p/i neglect and sometimes because the company want the price down-e.g. to facilitate takeover.
Normally it’s just CBA because we don’t matter.
Hold

DM
Yes!!

Sent long long reply. It disappeared. Bloody website.
I agree.
Company is CBA or doesn’t care or has an agenda.
They are neglectful and should reasure market. Companies used to. Now don’t generally. P/i’s are cannon fodder or cash cows. Sad.
Yes people will like flog on a bounce which will depress price.
Been here so often.
I too will hold out of bloody-mindedness as much as faith. Sad we are neglected.
But we have a choice as to how to respond.
This is common market antics.
Using the seller as much as responding to the seller. It’s the mm’s way.
IMO you have the right attitude.
I can’t buy but would.
Tough time.
Stock market is red in tooth and claw. And utterly heartless.

Longlad.
Yes I agree.
I often find that companies don’t do this. It is sad and neglectful to the investors. Sometimes they don’t care. Sometimes CBA. Sometimes they have an agenda we don’t know about. Any of those or other readons may be true.
Yes the selling on a rise always happens. This keeps the prioce down . You are fully right.
The right thing is for the company to reassure the market. They just don’t and more. Used to. These days we are just cannon fodder and cash cows.
It is admittedly deeply depressing that they do not recognize our needs nor feelings. I agree.
Yes jittery holders will likely sell if bounce.
Me? I don’t see this share going anywhere at all for quite a while. Been here too many times and recognize the market signs .
It has been pushed this low by big seller and prob shorters.
I can’t buy.
But am now way giving shares away even if it went into fifties. Hold tighter!

P.s. British Summertime officially ends Sunday 31st October,

Thisi a consquence of controlled relentless selling or the mm’s , City traders and/or shorters have an agenda. Hypothesis:- to drive out the p/i in disappointment /despair.
Holding onto shares is ( to me) the only right thing to do.
The company may/or may not be late with updating the market. But it is fully funded and has many irons in the fire-with good indications to date.
This could be relentless selling but I have seen this many times before on no news or in order to panic investors. Stop losses prob all gone by now.
Those who lose are those who sell.
Is there any reason apart from playing on late updates.
Each to their own but remember not to trust what the market does with a share price. It is no longer a reflection of value or valuation. It is all too often a market tool with an agenda.
Or it could be a result of relentless small selling. Which may also have an agenda.
Difficult time unless one has faith in 4D as an investment case . And weathers the storm.
I recommend hold or preferably buy.
IMHO

Curious and coincidental time to arrive .

Here’s hoping(!).

You don’t learn and only wish to bring trouble. You are green-boxed so you know you are talking to others. You have an agenda.
You evidently will not grow up and end your bizarre obsession.
This is my last post to you.
My advice is to do the same.

You know you are in a green box.
This means you fully already know that only others can read it.
So why write it?? Purpose??

You know this is a chatsite about a company and its share value.
Not a chatsite about people.

But you persist for some reason.
You definitely seem to have an obsession.
You are wilfully and knowingly wasting other peoples’ time.
And ignoring the advice to green box me. That would spare you your distress.

You can address this and either grow out of it or try to resist the compulsion to plaster a name of a poster as a title and talk about another person.
I invite a green box for the second time.

Hoping (!) you can master and leave this ‘person’ obsession you seem to have.
If not seek help.
Go talk to someone. Or do something else
It’s tiresome..

Apologies to other readsrs.

EdC
Thank you for the uplifting comment. Is very good of you.
I also wish you the best with this company-and any other investments . As far as we are able it is good to support fellow investors when so much is stacked against us. I post in order to share and to help others know what they may not. There are those who also educate me .
I wish you a great weekend.
Off to Cornwall for a week. OMG the M5…we’ll find out.
ATB to you

Yes
Fully in control of s/p
We can only watch.
I don’t expect any great upwards movement. They are suppressing price open-endedly.

I totally agree.
Some very large buys taking place today at this rock-bottom price too. Veey large .

Not finished yet.

Whatever your post in the green box says ..it says more about you going on your last tirade which was very nasty and said a lot about you as a person. Doubt this is any different.
BB’s should be about trading and one’s interpretations or experiences of such and not externalising personal aggression issues if one doesn’t like what another poster has to say.
Gimme a break and filter me if you don’t like candidness or things I say.
I am perfectly comfortable with disagreeing. Are you?
Why do you have to focus on people?? Your issue . Not mine.
Talk about the investment or company or market . Not me.
And don’t scrawl my name across the board. It’s very very immature.
Hoping(!) you green box me . It’ll save all this.

I would hope my whingeing becomes an irrelevance if the company delivers.

This is the real investment case you are talking about.The stuff which makes the company what it is and Should grow into.
All the relevant stuff which makes up the investment case.
This is what saddens me all the more when I see its share price abused by the City -shorters and trading houses-as it is.
It is the same with many shares now. They don’t reflect the company or value metrics…e.g. risked or unrisked NAV .
I see a game of monopoly being played out.
I apologize if it seems I am undermining the talk of products/trials/potential etc. it is the contrary. I feel the marketeers ( mm’s and trafing houses and shorters) are just making a mockery of the reality of companies. 4D’s trading today was so blatant. Right up to the last trade at 16:29: 59 secs. Worthy of ridicule.
Avct? Nice if you are in it. But it could have gone to £1 as easily as £1:24.
Orph same. SNG same. SLP same etc.
Just letting off steam here.
Market has become a casino to take your bets. Never used to be as blatantly manipulated and corrupt. Used to respond to buy or sell bolume only ( still does). Meantimes it does not. It goes down when they want to buy or favoured clients or shorters want it to. Up when they choose.
Some of the posts yesterday showing sequential trades within a second sending price up or down were very salient. Algo rules.
This post may be irritating to some. As it does not reflect what the company is doing-apart from tardiness of expected update and lack of PR / communication in general. I am trying to just reflect the truth of what this market has evolved into ..having been consistently trading for 25 years and having started with BT in 1985.
There is investing…and there is trading.
Maybe.
No responses necessary. Just a jaded investor wishing it were not a game of teo halves. Them vs. us.
Finished.

Control over this share is mind-blowing.
Last trade says it all.
They don’t want it over 70p clearly.