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100% agreed.
2 very salient posts. Well said.

H/S
Yes I left that out. It is important. I agree fully. I too hold a vast amount and of course feel cheated. The LTIP is hard to reverse. There are probably things about the dispute that we also don’t know. A very secretive company. GM was/is not a squeaky-clean CEO. He has copped out probably to avoid flak. He will almost definitely not be confronted re. LTIP or anything else. Morally wrong but the law cares nothing about morality. Yes I agree that no monies should be paid and certainly no bonuses until the dispute is settled. It may even be that Ncyt were neglectful themselves with the DHSC. I doubt it but -in law- things can be upheld whether true or not. I would hope they can together agree pre-court attendance but if the govt. smells blood who knows? I would hope Ncyt’s solicitors ( and barrister if necessary) are sharp and on the ball. Some are. Some are not. Like any job. Especially highly paid guaranteed salary ones …hint hint.
Yes the company should let go of no funds until resolved. But they look after each other so I don’t see it.
I am in same boat as you and walk alongside.

1) A proper checked and professional voting form.
2) BOD to consider the same could happen again and again. And why !
3) Communication with shareholders on a regular basis.
4) Internal recognition of shareholder neglect and its obvious -non rocket-science consequences
5) A proper PR company . e.g. Walbrook etc.
6) A damned good look in the mirror.

Takeover or buyout has become more of a possibility now. But I have no experience of such and go on what I have read only.

Shorters and City traders have an opportunity to chew this share up but have not ( yet).
This may have meaning IMO

Ravenox
I love your last comment!! :-)

Iphone typo:- voters

I agree that this is not such a bad thing.
It’s a poke up the bum with a sharp stick.
If they have any lumbar nerve endings then they have the opportunity to learn something, if they duly respond or not..who knows?
If enough shareholders got to gether ( UK law is 50%) the BOD can be sacked.
We did this with Infrastrata in 2017.
All through social media.
A hard task here and not necessarily the right thing.
But the BOD should be held accountable for nil duty of care. This is one step. Reflected apathy due to turning a blind eye to the importance of a huge private investor base. Which in itself is an error which should have been addressed. This level of private holdings is like a free direct voters’ election for the govt. without intermediary MP’s.
Wakey wakey.
The market ought to respond favourably to this.
It is a riposte ( return strike with epéé) .
Fencing was originally French and became embedded in English culture . Throwing down the glove or gauntlet as a challenge.
I know it’s just an analogy but UK and French botrrs have thrown down the glove and will Ncyt respond???????

Apathy.
From individual voters-France and UK-who have not been respected.
Ncyt’s apathy is reflected in kind.
Not because Frence had a revolution against Louis 1V or have strong anti-govt interest groups. They are just same as us. No different. We have withheld our recognition of the AGM . So have they. Both sides of Channel.
Will the incoming CEO recognize why?
The form was a disgrace. Not even a box to put your aggregate number of shares . Just random pdf proof. Some of these would not stand up as real proof. You need a response to your form saying if it is valid or not as well. I have done quite a few before..even an excellent one for Plus 500 in Israel.
UK voters are just like the French voters. No different. Abstaining due to lack of care and respect. Both sides stood up for themselves equally. By abstaining.
And the form was -as said -woeful.
With no response.
This company should read this bb …. Ignore the silly infighting posts…and learn about market and shareholder reality.
And get a decent PR company like most do.
Amateurs needing to attend to the financial world outside the laboratory. .

Green = no trouble.

Blue
Decent analysis and judgment. It’s a tough world in business and one has to recognize and be prepared for ruthlessness.
And duty to shareholders is a real duty. One might not think so in today’s markey.
Sbsolutely they have focused on product and not the market and its reality.
They have let themselves be taken for a ride by this inept and unscrupulous govt. of which I was once a member until Boris joined and showed his colours.
Enough from me.
I support your post.

Sorry for typos.

That’s not true at all aabout shareholders.
Many would like to double abdolutely. But the sensible ones amongst us do not expect that at all. Just the naive or lucky.
A proportion of investors.
And I am not blaming directors . Other people might. Not my business. I thing they could intervene if they chose and maybe could help. Blame? Nope.
Risk-free high returns is La La Land.
No investment is risk -free. High returns? Maybe. Usually not in a hurry . Occasionally but just as likely not.
I don’t think people are being unjust here at all.
I certainly don’t think I am.
I look at the market and hopefully reality . Try to.
I try not to blame unjustly. But will admit I do absolutely believe a company has duty to all stakeholders. That invludes shareholders.

They have probably invested with very long term in mind.
They may not be concerned.
They have a dity to shareholders but most companies don’t support their shareholders well or at all. I am in Ncyt!
Also in an oilie. CEO just safly died. A good man. But he was not interested in the common investor either. Too often we are cannon fodder or cash cows. Very important to not expect to be catered for.
Worth remembering that directors have put a lot in though. Many don’t.

Hi Robins
Same for me.
I bought more but it kept going lower.
Any I bought now would hardly dent my average and I would be selling at a liss elsewhere to overexpose here.
I am just being pragmatic with what I say.
Any share can go lower or crash. But I also know that 4D have funded themselves and given options. The directors bought a lot at £1.10p. Sure they earn a lot. But it is still money. The US investor dumping may be because of Forte loss. May also be a trick . Or for another resdon. We cannot ultimately know.
Interims due. May say little. Who knows.
Lots of “ don’t knows”
I am losing loads. Losing even more on Ncyt.
But both are manipulated. 4D far far more tightly though. It is possibly the most manipulated share I have seen in decades.
Which divorces it from reality.
I am well acquainted with market manipulation and the myriad of stealthy games. They are real. That helps.
But ultimately -especially with a pharma in trials-it is a ‘ don’t know’ and ‘ wait and see’.
But results so far in most areas have been positive. Evelo helps a little but only in the sector.
Wishing you and (almost) all of us the best.
We have a long way to go up to recover. A long way.

Good decision to buy.
Bargain. But could go either way atm

I said yesterday that I did not expect any worthwhile recovery for 9 months or so. Or unless DHSC positively resolved.
I reiterated that.
I said back in Feb and have comtinuouy said to bottom drawer this one. Even more so now.I don’t estimate the dispute will be resolved in 2021. Could be but I doubt.
Tomorrow is just a paper formality. I don’t think they deserve a bonus though. What for?? They should be considering ways of alleviating shareholder frustration. Each RNS reinforces it unfortunately. GM really had no idea about the market . His departure may be a good thing.
Or it may be more of the same.
We will be dead cat bouncing for a very very long time now. It may be beneficial to resign oneself to it.
All IMO. And like all investors I may be wrong. But I don’t think so.

RBM
Well said. Good summary.

Bluelight.
I support what you say fully.
I feel exactly the same and have the same response . Including my begrudging decision to hold. The company cares about shareholdes not one jot. The departing CEO proved it.
I only post to support your negativity. It is called for.

I am friends with a few but don’t want to be drawn into the heaviness here.
Your call to believe or not.
Doesn’t bother me.

Btw
Mm’s feed off this discontent. They use these chatboards. Their aim is to steal our/your shares cheaply.
Not paranoia or conspiracy. True.
Worth knowing.